when we did.
That fateful day when Ole's United stream-rolled Nuno's numpties at WHL, to leapfrog us in the table: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59019333
4 days later Conte arrived.
Since then 5 wins and 3 draws and what was a 2 point deficit to United & Arsenal is now a gap of 2 pts with a GIH over Utd and still 2 pts behind Arsenal but with 2 GIH.
The timing was good with the nature of the fixtures being "easier" bottom half teams but more importantly it was decisive timing to take THE best available manager out there.
If we had not acted so swiftly to correct the obvious error that was Nuno, then we'd either be plodding on with his insipid style of football, or trawling around for a quality manager with Mason at the helm and probably having the same problems that United currently are in motivating a stuttering team under a caretaker, completely rudderless.
Its an interesting comparison with United, I read many Utd fans viewing Ragnicks appointment as being a means to an end, to instil a way of playing that sets the foundations for the next man. But, many Utd fans were dismissive of Conte as his history of short term appointments would not develop the 'dynasty' they desire (not sure this is a realistic aspiration in the modern game tbh). However, even if Conte was just 18 months, he is not a club destroyer like Jose, everyone he left has flourished since.
As Spurs fans, even if Conte brings success i do not think we can expect him to be around for years to come, but if he elevates us back to being competitive in the top 4, and gets any trophy in the cabinet then it's job done really.
Thank God we got Conte.....
posted on 4/1/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 19 minutes ago
There does seem to be less and less real top quality managers available these days. Mostly managers are just on a merry go round of clubs, after a year or two, they either get sacked, or move on. Not much stability at any club really as regards managers.
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Modern fans Sandy, took Fergie 4 seasons to get going - which manager gets that sort of time anymore. Klopp finished 8th in his first season. Pep got battered 4-0 at Everton in his first season.
You shouldn’t be patient with every manager as some are just unsuitable - Nuno for instance. However, others need to be - Arteta is suddenly looking okay, Moyes is doing a good job.
posted on 4/1/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 19 minutes ago
There does seem to be less and less real top quality managers available these days. Mostly managers are just on a merry go round of clubs, after a year or two, they either get sacked, or move on. Not much stability at any club really as regards managers.
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Modern fans Sandy, took Fergie 4 seasons to get going - which manager gets that sort of time anymore. Klopp finished 8th in his first season. Pep got battered 4-0 at Everton in his first season.
You shouldn’t be patient with every manager as some are just unsuitable - Nuno for instance. However, others need to be - Arteta is suddenly looking okay, Moyes is doing a good job.
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You have to look at modern players, too. They're more responsible for getting managers sacked than the fans.
posted on 4/1/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
There does seem to be less and less real top quality managers available these days. Mostly managers are just on a merry go round of clubs, after a year or two, they either get sacked, or move on. Not much stability at any club really as regards managers.
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The issue is, there are more and more clubs with aspirations that require a top manager. A lot of opportunity for some of these younger coaches over the next few years.
posted on 4/1/22
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 19 minutes ago
There does seem to be less and less real top quality managers available these days. Mostly managers are just on a merry go round of clubs, after a year or two, they either get sacked, or move on. Not much stability at any club really as regards managers.
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Modern fans Sandy, took Fergie 4 seasons to get going - which manager gets that sort of time anymore. Klopp finished 8th in his first season. Pep got battered 4-0 at Everton in his first season.
You shouldn’t be patient with every manager as some are just unsuitable - Nuno for instance. However, others need to be - Arteta is suddenly looking okay, Moyes is doing a good job.
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You have to look at modern players, too. They're more responsible for getting managers sacked than the fans.
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this.
fans can moan and protest all they want and unless they all stop going to games they cant do much.
players on the other hand quite often down their tools.
posted on 5/1/22
comment by LukaBrasi 🇮🇹 COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 15 hours, 48 minutes ago
Thought Don did an similar article a couple of days ago.
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Don’t think…. LOOK IT UP
posted on 5/1/22
I think Paratici probably had a big impact in us getting Conte. A compatriot, someone he has worked with before and I'd hope this would smooth any wrinkles between manager and Board, particularly if the Board really are to listen to and take the advice of the DoF. The dual voices of the DoF and the top class Conte must be a compelling thing, and the Board must know the possible fallout from any serious disagreement might be Conte walking away.
We probably have the best setup we've ever had, from the academy, through to the training pitch to the manager and the DoF. You'd hope that the Board would do everything in their powers and a bit more to deliver what is needed/asked for on the football side.
Surely it cannot be lost on the Board that some decent buying now could secure UCL which is worth between £60-90m to the club, as well as securing the services of Kane & others into the future. Its tough in January but a couple key buys could be the difference.
posted on 5/1/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Paratici probably had a big impact in us getting Conte. A compatriot, someone he has worked with before and I'd hope this would smooth any wrinkles between manager and Board, particularly if the Board really are to listen to and take the advice of the DoF. The dual voices of the DoF and the top class Conte must be a compelling thing, and the Board must know the possible fallout from any serious disagreement might be Conte walking away.
We probably have the best setup we've ever had, from the academy, through to the training pitch to the manager and the DoF. You'd hope that the Board would do everything in their powers and a bit more to deliver what is needed/asked for on the football side.
Surely it cannot be lost on the Board that some decent buying now could secure UCL which is worth between £60-90m to the club, as well as securing the services of Kane & others into the future. Its tough in January but a couple key buys could be the difference.
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Levy will try to deliver what is required to achieve a place in the CL, as that is all ENIC are bothered about. They won`t be delivering what is required to compete to win the PL or to win regular trophies, they will leave us 2 or 3 players short like they always do and expect the manager to over achieve.
On the flip side, we now have Conte, who is very capable, also there is no guarantee spending a lot of money will bring success (see Man United). The club needs to trust Conte`s judgement and spend wisely on players he wants, and shift players he does not want.
Interesting times ahead, and make or break for Levy and ENIC, mess up again and the fans will turn big time.
posted on 5/1/22
I think Paratici probably had a big impact in us getting Conte.
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I am convinced that without him we wouldn't have Conte. Paritici has therefore already justified his role at the club, for that move alone.
posted on 5/1/22
comment by ●Billy The Yidd● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Paratici probably had a big impact in us getting Conte. A compatriot, someone he has worked with before and I'd hope this would smooth any wrinkles between manager and Board, particularly if the Board really are to listen to and take the advice of the DoF. The dual voices of the DoF and the top class Conte must be a compelling thing, and the Board must know the possible fallout from any serious disagreement might be Conte walking away.
We probably have the best setup we've ever had, from the academy, through to the training pitch to the manager and the DoF. You'd hope that the Board would do everything in their powers and a bit more to deliver what is needed/asked for on the football side.
Surely it cannot be lost on the Board that some decent buying now could secure UCL which is worth between £60-90m to the club, as well as securing the services of Kane & others into the future. Its tough in January but a couple key buys could be the difference.
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Levy will try to deliver what is required to achieve a place in the CL, as that is all ENIC are bothered about. They won`t be delivering what is required to compete to win the PL or to win regular trophies, they will leave us 2 or 3 players short like they always do and expect the manager to over achieve.
On the flip side, we now have Conte, who is very capable, also there is no guarantee spending a lot of money will bring success (see Man United). The club needs to trust Conte`s judgement and spend wisely on players he wants, and shift players he does not want.
Interesting times ahead, and make or break for Levy and ENIC, mess up again and the fans will turn big time.
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I agree. I hope Conte employs a degree of realism in his demands, and no doubt there would have been conversations about what is realistic at the start.
We are now in a different phase as a club. The infrastructure investment is behind us. The revenues are coming in and we are in a growth phase. It is new territory for us and like you say, interesting times.
There is scope in the wages to increase these. If you look at the new WHL, pre-covid finances, then there are big profits to be made and spent.
What is encouraging is that Levy is not shy of spending big on the right player - £42m on Sanchez, £55 NDombele, £50m on Romero. They all fitted the right bracket of talented but young. Sure not all worked out but the money was spent and at the time we were all delighted. Combine this with a careful approach to more 'complete' players, those coming to the end of contracts etc, where you can get better value and we can move forward in a balanced way that looks after the now and the future.
Hopefully Paratici will see us avoid some of the costly poor buys of the past.
posted on 5/1/22
It did amuse me a bit when sections of Spurs fans (and United fans) didn't want him thinking it was another Mourinho.
I get it. There's definite similarities/you'll see them profoundly when he wants out... but Conte's actually good
I'm so nervous tonight. At Chelsea he always upped his game when he had a point to prove, the players were just more up for it, and though he won't admit it I'm sure he'd love to crush us.