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Penalties, consistency and ‘top 6’ bias

It’s always dismissed as conspiracy but I think it’s undeniable there is a bias from referees towards the ‘bigger’ clubs and more famous managers and players. I don’t think it’s intentional, but they get so many more decisions than anyone else, which isn’t to say they are never on the end of a wrong call.

The two penalty appeals yesterday is the difference between 0 points and 3 points and potentially Leeds’ place in the Premier League. Both incredibly soft and I don’t like seeing them given but it’s about consistency.

That kick of Rodrigo was identical to the one on Rudiger that meant we left Stamford Bridge with no points. The hand ball that result in it going out for a corner was no different to the penalty Stuart Dallas had against him against Liverpool. Two calls against Spurs that again were no different to ones against us.

Numerous calls across the season that add up to a handful of points that would have Leeds mid table. It’s not the main reason that we might go down it’s not helping, crazy that a billion dollar industry has such amateur officiating.

posted on 6/3/22

We definitely get far more leniency than we used to get pre takeover.
I’m certain if it had been an Everton player last week then we get a penalty
Hard to tell if it’s really poor officials who can’t handle pressure situations or it’s corrupt

posted on 6/3/22

I don't think Leeds deserved any penalties yesterday. I do believe however that we have had some ridiculous ones if late, top of the bill, Alisson clattering James who got the ball first. Top teams do get beneficial decisions for sure, but then again, why didn't VAR disallow the Middlesbrough handball in the FA cup game v Man U

posted on 6/3/22

don't think Leeds deserved any penalties yesterday
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It’s not the point though, Shaun. They were soft and *shouldnt* be penalties but we’ve had identical ones given to us. It’s about consistency. Either they are always penalties or never penalties.

If Klich against Rudiger is a penalty, then Rodrigo shouldn’t get one

posted on 6/3/22

*should get one

posted on 6/3/22

I think every team can point to incidents where they believe decisions and var reviews have gone for and against them.

Some of the 'nailed on penalties' fans claim for their team border on ridiculous sometimes.

posted on 6/3/22

KingKenny - I like Klopp, and I feel he and Pep definitely have an intimidating influence…Klopp probably more so, and on a Fergie level.

I don’t think the outcome would have been much different in the recent 6-0 drubbing at Anfield, 3 big decisions went Liverpool’s way…2 of the softest penalties and Allison taking out James earlier. We don’t get those penalties and if that is Salah…no doubt he wins a penalty.

It all probably evens out over a season, sometimes doesn’t feel like it when your survival is at stake.

posted on 6/3/22

I think "sometimes doesn't feel like it" is the key point there.

Also the evens out stuff is nonsense. If City get a dodgy decision in our upcoming game to win, then that will almost certainly give them the title as it has double the impact (ignoring the psychological element too).

posted on 6/3/22

comment by steross17 (U6898)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
KingKenny - I like Klopp, and I feel he and Pep definitely have an intimidating influence…Klopp probably more so, and on a Fergie level.

I don’t think the outcome would have been much different in the recent 6-0 drubbing at Anfield, 3 big decisions went Liverpool’s way…2 of the softest penalties and Allison taking out James earlier. We don’t get those penalties and if that is Salah…no doubt he wins a penalty.

It all probably evens out over a season, sometimes doesn’t feel like it when your survival is at stake.
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Every goal matters and at 0-0, that may have made for a different game if went 1 nil up there. Probably would have lost but still ....

posted on 7/3/22

Is it coincidence that the Premier Leaguenhad to fight off the ESL.

What better way to appease them?

Just saying?

posted on 7/3/22

comment by Best fans - Leeds Carajo (U2196)
posted 19 hours, 42 minutes ago
don't think Leeds deserved any penalties yesterday
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It’s not the point though, Shaun. They were soft and *shouldnt* be penalties but we’ve had identical ones given to us. It’s about consistency. Either they are always penalties or never penalties.

If Klich against Rudiger is a penalty, then Rodrigo shouldn’t get one
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Surely we cannot use the poor decision as a bench mark. Rodrigo's shout wasn't a penalty because it wasn't a penalty. Refs need to learn from the poor decisions by improving their decision making not by confounding errors by repeating them.

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