Roman Abramovich is sanctioned by The UK government on suspicion of close ties to the evil Putin.
A great majority of people think this was the correct action to take, including quite a few Chelsea fans ,now who want to see the club distanced from RA and find a new owner quickly so the club can operate on a daily basis without continuing the enforcement of the current restrictive sanction measures.
My question is: If Roman was so close to Putin, why did he not get a heads up on the events about to unfold.
Putin could easily have quietly sent a message to Roman...."get your affairs settled in UK fast, things are about to hot up". Wink wink....
After all there supposedly was dialogue with China regarding the Winter Olympics. The Ukraine invasion was put back for that as the media claim.
If that had happened maybe the current chaos might have been avoided. The Club , House and Yacht could have been cleanly disposed with a minimum of fuss.
It seems to me that Putin did not wish to do his great mate such a big favour. If my own mate kept schtum, allowing me to lose a massive bunch of dosh ,when he could have easily made the difference, I'd give him what for....
Suspicions yeah why not....clobber the bloke, but has this really seriously been thought through?
Serious question. Not a troll. Insults will be ignored for what they are ie....childish reaction. Proper discussion please. If you are here to troll, fine, but do it intelligently...yes?
Missing piece of the puzzle.
posted on 12/3/22
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Fifty Years of Hurt (U12953)
posted 5 minutes ago
The possibility of a link to someone attacking another country gets you sanctioned. Unless you're Newcastle, of course, in which case the factual and proven link to someone attacking another country is ignored.
That's the reality of this scenario, and the reason why it is political grandstanding that's driving this, rather than any sort of principled decision.
Seven years Saudi Arabia have been attacking Yemen. Seven years. And the man that owns the fund that now own Newcastle has been overseeing that attack as well. Do we see even the suggestion of sanctions?
Of course not. We simply see the UK selling billions of pounds of weapons to the Saudis, so they can carry on doing it.
That's why I take all this sanctimoneous shiite that various rival fans keep dribbling out with a giant pinch of salt. Hypocrites to a man.
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On the nail! The corruption and double standards existing in the executive branches of all so called democratic western nations is clear for all to see...not only on the Ukraine issue. Scapegoating , blatant lying and self serving interests rule the times we now live in. Respect for authority therefore at an all time low. Not to mention broken treaties which Russia has to swallow with no objection.
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Man, this sounds dangerously close to actually backing Putin.
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Saying it as I see it.... Am I a danger to free speech because I take a wider angle view of things.... and not see world politics in the black or white monochromatic the way the media dishes it out to a manipulated public.
No I do not support anyone who starts a war....neither the people who manipulate politics to encourage it. Take that as you wish!
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C'mon, let's be honest about this now...
If you supported ANY OTHER club but Chelsea, you would not be saying this.
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This is bigger than football and any club ...haha....this is the way of the current world unfortunately , so way more serious in the long term for us all.
Believe what you will. I can be fickle , but regardless of tribal allegiances .... the way i see it is the way i see it...end of . Hopefully your permission is not required
posted on 12/3/22
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by One Montage - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Yes Putin is going to share his invasion plans with a civilian so that he can sell his football club in time
Let's imagine Putin did inform Abram, and Abram would out of the blue put Chelsea up for sale and leave the UK. What do you think people would speculate?
Ffs
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This.
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I already responded to this...pls scroll up. Plenty of time to settle.
According to media reports plans were made to Invade Ukraine already 6-8 months ago as retaliation for Nato incursions and broken treaties with EU.
At very least RA could have laid plans to sell Chelsea early as he was already expected to do when his UK visa was revoked. He could have made a perfectly plausible statement....that since I'm not welcome here and being constantly unfairly attacked by the media, I am fed up with defending myself in the courts of a constant stream of libels, btw I did win every case I took to court and won damages. Enough is enough.
I"m selling up and moving elsewhere ...I have already sought domicile outside of UK so no point in continuing here. Why would that not have worked? TheYacht could have been moved to Russia or any other welcoming place. Its always on the move anyway.... Meditteranean,etc I personally saw it in Singapore...recently. Houses are easily put on the market and sold. If only the club was dealt with that would have been perfectly understandable...
Your thisis dissed!
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Is it really?
In the OP you say you've been reading that it was going to happen for the last 6-8 months. Your owner didn't believe it would hurt him.
Roman was Rong.
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If you insist on misquoting me i will not bother any longer...one attempt to reason with you is sufficient.
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Apologies. You didn't mention the 6-8 months in the OP.
Scroll up in this post. Your first response to me. That's where you posted it.
posted on 12/3/22
Hold on, just heard they have paused the invasion because China have some skiing to do today or something.
posted on 12/3/22
comment by Cinciwolf---Top six, guaranteed! (U11551)
posted 24 minutes ago
Hold on, just heard they have paused the invasion because China have some skiing to do today or something.
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Cini being Cynical.... How delightful!
They can't be producing all that fake snow with shrapnel flying about surely....
posted on 12/3/22
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by One Montage - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Yes Putin is going to share his invasion plans with a civilian so that he can sell his football club in time
Let's imagine Putin did inform Abram, and Abram would out of the blue put Chelsea up for sale and leave the UK. What do you think people would speculate?
Ffs
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This.
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I already responded to this...pls scroll up. Plenty of time to settle.
According to media reports plans were made to Invade Ukraine already 6-8 months ago as retaliation for Nato incursions and broken treaties with EU.
At very least RA could have laid plans to sell Chelsea early as he was already expected to do when his UK visa was revoked. He could have made a perfectly plausible statement....that since I'm not welcome here and being constantly unfairly attacked by the media, I am fed up with defending myself in the courts of a constant stream of libels, btw I did win every case I took to court and won damages. Enough is enough.
I"m selling up and moving elsewhere ...I have already sought domicile outside of UK so no point in continuing here. Why would that not have worked? TheYacht could have been moved to Russia or any other welcoming place. Its always on the move anyway.... Meditteranean,etc I personally saw it in Singapore...recently. Houses are easily put on the market and sold. If only the club was dealt with that would have been perfectly understandable...
Your thisis dissed!
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Is it really?
In the OP you say you've been reading that it was going to happen for the last 6-8 months. Your owner didn't believe it would hurt him.
Roman was Rong.
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If you insist on misquoting me i will not bother any longer...one attempt to reason with you is sufficient.
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Apologies. You didn't mention the 6-8 months in the OP.
Scroll up in this post. Your first response to me. That's where you posted it.
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No worries...maybe you misunderstood...thats perfectly forgiveable.
Actually I read and saw it on several media outlets....After the war /invasion of Ukraine started, not 6 months before. Regarding the invasion plans. Some presenter was attempting to show China collusion with Russia on quid pro quo basis. I thought it strange too at the time....
Now I think about it we should look to see if there are any China owned football clubs / assets in The UK or Chinese nationals we can sanction. Yes lets build up those governmental coffers.... easy peasy money I should imagine....
posted on 12/3/22
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by One Montage - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Yes Putin is going to share his invasion plans with a civilian so that he can sell his football club in time
Let's imagine Putin did inform Abram, and Abram would out of the blue put Chelsea up for sale and leave the UK. What do you think people would speculate?
Ffs
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This.
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I already responded to this...pls scroll up. Plenty of time to settle.
According to media reports plans were made to Invade Ukraine already 6-8 months ago as retaliation for Nato incursions and broken treaties with EU.
At very least RA could have laid plans to sell Chelsea early as he was already expected to do when his UK visa was revoked. He could have made a perfectly plausible statement....that since I'm not welcome here and being constantly unfairly attacked by the media, I am fed up with defending myself in the courts of a constant stream of libels, btw I did win every case I took to court and won damages. Enough is enough.
I"m selling up and moving elsewhere ...I have already sought domicile outside of UK so no point in continuing here. Why would that not have worked? TheYacht could have been moved to Russia or any other welcoming place. Its always on the move anyway.... Meditteranean,etc I personally saw it in Singapore...recently. Houses are easily put on the market and sold. If only the club was dealt with that would have been perfectly understandable...
Your thisis dissed!
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So if everyone knew 8 months ago, why didnt RA? How does your comment line up with your op? Why would RA need a nudge from Putin if it was so glaring obvious?
posted on 12/3/22
Tway your wasting your breath the supporters have siezed the opportunity to beat chelsea with this stick, giving their relative teams a little better chance of success in the near future. teams have benefitted from abramoviches money throughout the league. no one complained but now they see an easier way of qualifying for europe than onfield achievements....fork them
posted on 12/3/22
comment by One Montage - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by One Montage - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Yes Putin is going to share his invasion plans with a civilian so that he can sell his football club in time
Let's imagine Putin did inform Abram, and Abram would out of the blue put Chelsea up for sale and leave the UK. What do you think people would speculate?
Ffs
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This.
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I already responded to this...pls scroll up. Plenty of time to settle.
According to media reports plans were made to Invade Ukraine already 6-8 months ago as retaliation for Nato incursions and broken treaties with EU.
At very least RA could have laid plans to sell Chelsea early as he was already expected to do when his UK visa was revoked. He could have made a perfectly plausible statement....that since I'm not welcome here and being constantly unfairly attacked by the media, I am fed up with defending myself in the courts of a constant stream of libels, btw I did win every case I took to court and won damages. Enough is enough.
I"m selling up and moving elsewhere ...I have already sought domicile outside of UK so no point in continuing here. Why would that not have worked? TheYacht could have been moved to Russia or any other welcoming place. Its always on the move anyway.... Meditteranean,etc I personally saw it in Singapore...recently. Houses are easily put on the market and sold. If only the club was dealt with that would have been perfectly understandable...
Your thisis dissed!
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So if everyone knew 8 months ago, why didnt RA? How does your comment line up with your op? Why would RA need a nudge from Putin if it was so glaring obvious?
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With all due respects, maybe Roman ain't as dopey as he looks !
posted on 12/3/22
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Tway your wasting your breath the supporters have siezed the opportunity to beat chelsea with this stick, giving their relative teams a little better chance of success in the near future. teams have benefitted from abramoviches money throughout the league. no one complained but now they see an easier way of qualifying for europe than onfield achievements....fork them
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Rising... I knew when i started i wasn't going to change any minds. tbh, was feeling a little feisty today and welcomed a little sparring you know, get a few rocks of...and feeling satiated now.
I commend everyone on here for engaging with me in a gentleman and courteous manner. No one lost any face , and in the end nothing is changed and yet the hours have flown by.
It looks like we have got over the worst of it and will get through this crisis.
Roman is gone but he will always be in our hearts and remembered for what he did for us.
Almost 3am in the morning where i currently am...so goodnight all and thank you.
posted on 12/3/22
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Tway your wasting your breath the supporters have siezed the opportunity to beat chelsea with this stick, giving their relative teams a little better chance of success in the near future. teams have benefitted from abramoviches money throughout the league. no one complained but now they see an easier way of qualifying for europe than onfield achievements....fork them
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What do you mean ‘no one complained’?!
That comment alone sums up so much about Chelsea’s fanbase atm.