The Only Unbeaten teams in PL

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
There’s no evidence that Spurs or Chelsea are better than this Arsenal side. None whatsoever. They clearly look better than last year. I’m not sure we do yet, although we have a little more depth.

We’ll see but I’d be cautious about giving them a hard time as they look the real deal to me. I’m with Arteta on this. You can 100% see some major positives in this defeat.
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Spurs have lost 1 in 17 Prem games. Arsenal have lost three of the last nine off the top of my head, so considerable evidence that Spurs are clearly better than Arsenal.

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
There’s no evidence that Spurs or Chelsea are better than this Arsenal side. None whatsoever. They clearly look better than last year. I’m not sure we do yet, although we have a little more depth.

We’ll see but I’d be cautious about giving them a hard time as they look the real deal to me. I’m with Arteta on this. You can 100% see some major positives in this defeat.
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Spurs have lost 1 in 17 Prem games. Arsenal have lost three of the last nine off the top of my head, so considerable evidence that Spurs are clearly better than Arsenal.
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Fridgeboy can't see that - our record is as good as the top 2 and not just unbeaten bot goals scored.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
There’s no evidence that Spurs or Chelsea are better than this Arsenal side. None whatsoever. They clearly look better than last year. I’m not sure we do yet, although we have a little more depth.

We’ll see but I’d be cautious about giving them a hard time as they look the real deal to me. I’m with Arteta on this. You can 100% see some major positives in this defeat.
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Our results are better than last year so far and that's a that what counts.

Arsenal looked a good team, played well and were comfortably beaten...if this doesn't teach deluded Spurs fans that 3 points matter more playing pretty football then there is no hope for some.

Arsenal - and you can bookmark this - won’t finish in the top 4. They are still the flakey, effeminate, yellow bellied, limp wristed pushovers they have always been. They will lose plenty of games against any side that tries to put it up them.

The fixture list could not have been better for those first 5 games if Arteta had hand picked it himself

Maybe I’m looking at things differently. I’ve always seen progress not just in results but in patterns of play, dominance and possession. That’s why I’ve always preferred the Poch style more than even Conte now. It’s not a criticism as I’m happy with Conte and it seems to be working but I just love good football and, most of the time, the truly top teams dominate games before they win anything. I see what Arsenal represent as something halfway up the ladder you want to climb rather than near the top of one you don’t. We’re a decent side and we’re solid but are we in a position to go away to a top 6 side and dominate a game? I don’t think we are. We’re more likely to do what we did to Chelsea and somehow scrape a draw. I guess it depends on what you lot as fans want. I just don’t think we’re really going to be able to mix it with City and Liverpool without becoming one of them. A team that dominates. That’s modern football. We’ll see. I could be wrong but I’m not sure the passive approach works these days. It’s why Jose isn’t the manager he used to be. It’s all about controlling games and I’m not sure we do that enough to be honest. That’s why I wouldn’t be so harsh to Arteta because although he gets stuff wrong, he’s going about it the right way.

We played pretty football, and ended upp with nothing to show for it under Poch.

At least, we can now grind out results even playing ugly football.
Its about winning and grinding out results. This is a a result business.

We lacked the nasty streak and now we have it.

But no Spurs fan said we are City or Liverpool, but we are deffo better than Arsenal, and Conte is more decorated than Arteta.
What Arsenal are doing? They spent way more than us and are finishing below us in the league? Conte in his first half season gets us to CL and Arteta with 1 game a week bottled it. Arteta has a massive ego problem and doesn't like being challenged like Auba did and he literally froze him in reserves like a kid.

Don't think it'all rosy there...I suggest you have a real soft spot for them...Maybe you are unsure who to support?

We played pretty football under Poch but we also finished 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 4th in the league under him, got to a CL final and managed to get a record points tally in one season of 86 points, enough to win the league in most years. It wasn’t just about pretty football.

I’m most definitely a spurs fan but I’m also a fan of fairness and all I see here is a series of double standards. Arteta has a huge ego for getting rid of Aubameyang but Conte is a ruthless winner for getting rid of Ndombele. The reasons for both leaving were the same yet one manager gets castigated and the other cheered. It makes no sense.

I just don’t understand why there isn’t a bit of honesty going on. It’s perfectly fine to support one team and also say “shiiiiiit, those guys are actually worryingly good”. We don’t have to sit here, bury our heads in the sand and sing “Arsenal are fecking doshiiiiiiit” over and over.

It’s about balance. You’re right, it’s not all rosy over there but it’s not all rubbish either. In the same way that we’re not about to hit the promised land over at Spurs either. Maybe I’m just more rational than most.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 hours, 3 minutes ago
We played pretty football under Poch but we also finished 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 4th in the league under him, got to a CL final and managed to get a record points tally in one season of 86 points, enough to win the league in most years. It wasn’t just about pretty football.

I’m most definitely a spurs fan but I’m also a fan of fairness and all I see here is a series of double standards. Arteta has a huge ego for getting rid of Aubameyang but Conte is a ruthless winner for getting rid of Ndombele. The reasons for both leaving were the same yet one manager gets castigated and the other cheered. It makes no sense.

I just don’t understand why there isn’t a bit of honesty going on. It’s perfectly fine to support one team and also say “shiiiiiit, those guys are actually worryingly good”. We don’t have to sit here, bury our heads in the sand and sing “Arsenal are fecking doshiiiiiiit” over and over.

It’s about balance. You’re right, it’s not all rosy over there but it’s not all rubbish either. In the same way that we’re not about to hit the promised land over at Spurs either. Maybe I’m just more rational than most.
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For me the absolute pinnacle Prem team was United under Fergie because they could dominate games when needed or kill teams on the counter when needed. They had steel and guile, players like Vidic, Keane, Jones, Valencia, Rooney who could schit house with the best of them as well as Giggs, Scholes (who famously couldn’t tackle) RVN, Ronaldo who were great ballers.

Arteta’s side will roll over away from home against teams who put it up them, they don’t like it and they lack real leadership.

I think we’re better positioned as we’re getting far better at the grinding, countering, physical side whilst retaining players like Kane capable of unbelievable quality.

We will finish above Arsenal again this season

Arteta is one of the worst managers in the league.

Arsenal last season were 17th for big chances created with 39 created. Wenger last season in charge Arsenal were 2nd for big chances created with 81.

Arsenal got found at end of last season at Spurs and Newcastle as they were relying on long range goals out the blue and sneaking wins.

Man Utd created 66 big chances last season while Arteta Arsenal managed 39 and 4 the season before and 48 before that. That is like Arsenal 3 lowest big chance created sides in Arsenal history.

Spurs created 84 big chances last season, more than double Arsenal 39 lol and you had negative Nuno in charge for quite a few games.

comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 hours, 3 minutes ago
We played pretty football under Poch but we also finished 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 4th in the league under him, got to a CL final and managed to get a record points tally in one season of 86 points, enough to win the league in most years. It wasn’t just about pretty football.

I’m most definitely a spurs fan but I’m also a fan of fairness and all I see here is a series of double standards. Arteta has a huge ego for getting rid of Aubameyang but Conte is a ruthless winner for getting rid of Ndombele. The reasons for both leaving were the same yet one manager gets castigated and the other cheered. It makes no sense.

I just don’t understand why there isn’t a bit of honesty going on. It’s perfectly fine to support one team and also say “shiiiiiit, those guys are actually worryingly good”. We don’t have to sit here, bury our heads in the sand and sing “Arsenal are fecking doshiiiiiiit” over and over.

It’s about balance. You’re right, it’s not all rosy over there but it’s not all rubbish either. In the same way that we’re not about to hit the promised land over at Spurs either. Maybe I’m just more rational than most.
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For me the absolute pinnacle Prem team was United under Fergie because they could dominate games when needed or kill teams on the counter when needed. They had steel and guile, players like Vidic, Keane, Jones, Valencia, Rooney who could schit house with the best of them as well as Giggs, Scholes (who famously couldn’t tackle) RVN, Ronaldo who were great ballers.

Arteta’s side will roll over away from home against teams who put it up them, they don’t like it and they lack real leadership.

I think we’re better positioned as we’re getting far better at the grinding, countering, physical side whilst retaining players like Kane capable of unbelievable quality.

We will finish above Arsenal again this season
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Not much to disagree with in your post but one thing that is clear is that if Arsenal lack the grinding, countering and physical side that we've suddenly acquired, we're definitely short on the ability to dominate a game in the way they do. That means both clubs are short and could see us both contest the same spots again just with very different skill sets.

I don't know what makes you so confident we'll beat them. You have to factor in European football. We have the CL which makes it harder to rotate our best players (essentially we're going to want to play Kane, Son, Kulu, Romero in every game) and Arsenal have the EL so they can comfortably send out a second string to get out of the group stages. Their first eleven won't be stretched until the knockout phases. Conte saw an upturn in fortunes for us AFTER we went out of every other competition as he could pick a settled side every week. Not anymore.

I think it's going to be unbelievably close again. I think there'll be a faggggg paper between Spurs, Arsenal, United and Chelsea this year. 4 teams, 2 places. Not easy.