Crystal Palace v Wolves Match Day Thread

Sorry to be too nuanced for you. 60 isn’t an accusation I was making at you, it’s the kind of level that we need to get to in order to get back to finishing in the top 7.

Where have I said we need a striker? I have always said we need strikers, plural. If we are playing three up front we need three who can score double figures a season. We haven’t got one.

We have a good keeper and good defenders so we have a good defensive record. We have good midfielders that Lage didn’t get the best out of. And if you forget that goals are important we have good forwards too.

Playing higher up the pitch, pressing the opposition, gaining an identity, none of those things will lead to many more goals unless you have forwards with more goalscoring capabilities.

That's not true. You are most likely to score a goal in the aftermath of winning possession in the oppositions half. That's why the best teams press high and look to win the ball back high up the pitch. Pressing well will always lead to more goals as it creates chances.

An identity will give us more goals. When Nuno first brought us into the Premier League we had an identity. Hold the shape and then press when the ball when it was in a wide area, before attacking in a direct manner, with pace on the counter. The last 2 and a bit years we have played with no real identity in a one pace manner with little pressing. Guess which period saw the most goals?

Once again you are talking as if all hope is lost on us scoring any goals unless we buy new players. It's complete nonsense. This team should be capable of scoring more goals than it currently does.

Just for the record, since the Fosun/Mendes takeover, we've seen over 20 players from Portugal introduced at Molineux, 18 were from Mendes. Plus two managers of course.

We have also seen our four best finishes since 1979-80

The time when we scored the most goals in the new era was before Jimenez had his injury when he was twice the player he is now. And when we had Jota who is much more of a goal threat than any of the other forwards we have now.

You seem to be saying that the style and tactics are more important than the quality of players. Its complete nonsense. For two years we have needed to find players with the goalscoring threat of Jota and the old Jimenez for our forward line, and we have failed miserably to do so.

We can go back to playing the way Nuno used to play, we can adopt the same approach as Klopp at Liverpool, but to do that when there is a chasm of difference in the quality of goalscoring players available is simply not sensible. Thats why we have to set up to make sure we don't concede many, because as the recent record books show, if the opposition score one, we almost certainly won't win.

I'm not saying the quality of player is less important than the style and tactics. I'm saying they are equally important and that our players should be capable of scoring more than they do.

You are basically saying we should give up until January and then hope we can sign a 20 goal a season player. That no matter who we have as coach, it is completely hopeless. May as well just leave Steve Davis in charge forever.

Or have left Bruno Lage in charge. Obviously it wasn't his fault we only scored 3 goals in 9 games.

Without Jota, Diaz and Nunez, Liverpool didn’t have their usual quantity or quality of strikers today and weren’t able to score against Forest who move off the bottom of the table with a 1-0 win

Not interested in the past cinci. It's the present I'm more concerned about.

How sad to have no memories to treasure. You must have lived a very boring life