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comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 11 hours, 21 minutes ago
I've been at 4 of the 5 finals he's won at Wembley.

Saying he bottles big games is tosh.
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Before Klopp won the CL against Spurs he had lost 7 of his last finals in a row. I’m not going to call Klopp a bottler because he deserves credit for getting to some of those finals given the cap players he inherited at the start of his Liverpool reign but no manager is perfect in pressure games. No need to drag Pep into it.
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Pep does bottle big games more than you'd think he would. Big games aren't just finals alone. Semis and even any knockout can be a big game depending on the opponents. He's the best manager right now but even the best have their flaws and that's one for Pep IMO.

comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 13 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 22 seconds ago
Goes with the territory, on the whole he gets far more right than he does wrong with it.

Can be annoying from time to time though!
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Not on the big occasions. He cruises the whole way then a bb if crucial moment arrived and he balls it up.

If the league had a final single game to decide it City would have much fewer league titles than they do under Pep.
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I’m not sure about that. I remember the 2018-19 season when Liverpool came to the Etihad and lost 1-2. If Liverpool had won that game they would have gone 7 points clear or was it 10 clear.

We went on to chase Liverpool down and won the title by a point. Lots of pressure games in that season that we came through and Liverpool didn’t.

Same thing last season although the gap was too big for Liverpool to chase anyway. I know people say Liverpool could have won the quad. Academically yes but City had opportunities to end the title and not even take it to the final day. Your title challenge last season was more about city than you in my opinion.

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Thats a City-centric view. I'm not surprised you can't look at it both ways. Why was there a gap in the first place? Both teams had periods where they dropped points. It doesn't matter whether it's at the start or end of a season. A season is 38 games and they all count the same.

Our title challenge was not about City, what a ridiculous and logically impossible thing to say. It was about us coming back from the dead to force a title challenge against all odds.
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If you won it there after it was more about City dropping points. That’s why I used the example of 2018-19 where in the new year city actually won the game and probably had to considering they eventually won the title by one point.

I haven't checked but he's been to one Champions League final since he left Barca, no? Which he lost.

Having managed Bayern and City that's embarrassing tbh. Bayern won the CL in the 2 years before Pep and again in the 2 years after Pep I think, with inferior managers to Pep. So why not during Pep's reign?

City the richest and best team with the best manager but one CL final which they lost while Klopp has been to 3 CL finals while losing the league titles by a point twice. Even Tuchel has won it within months of arriving at Chelsea.

From the way Pep talks I think he knows this is a lacuna in his career.

comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 11 hours, 21 minutes ago
I've been at 4 of the 5 finals he's won at Wembley.

Saying he bottles big games is tosh.
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Before Klopp won the CL against Spurs he had lost 7 of his last finals in a row. I’m not going to call Klopp a bottler because he deserves credit for getting to some of those finals given the cap players he inherited at the start of his Liverpool reign but no manager is perfect in pressure games. No need to drag Pep into it.
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Pep does bottle big games more than you'd think he would. Big games aren't just finals alone. Semis and even any knockout can be a big game depending on the opponents. He's the best manager right now but even the best have their flaws and that's one for Pep IMO.
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Part of that is linked to the standards he’s held to though. He’s won more CL knockout games than any other manager so if you go with the perception he bottles more games than people think, that statement can apply equally, if not more, to everyone else too.

I don’t disagree that one of his flaws is overthinking in certain games though. I don’t think it’s big occasions as such though, it’s more specific teams.

you were in the title race academically but the only moment you could force the issue and put the destiny of the title in your hands you fluffed it at the Etihad.
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Fluffing is what you do when you get knocked out by Monaco in the CL semis.

A draw at the Etihad is not fluffing mate. It's one of the hardest places to go in world football. Avoiding defeat is an achievement, one that many many clubs fail to achieve.

If you won it there after it was more about City dropping points
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By the same token, City being so far ahead of Liverpool was more about Liverpool dropping points, not because City were great and consistent, winning game after game?

A bit funny what you're saying here.

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t disagree that one of his flaws is overthinking in certain games though. I don’t think it’s big occasions as such though, it’s more specific teams.
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Yeah, it could possibly be that rather than what I said tbh.

comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
I haven't checked but he's been to one Champions League final since he left Barca, no? Which he lost.

Having managed Bayern and City that's embarrassing tbh. Bayern won the CL in the 2 years before Pep and again in the 2 years after Pep I think, with inferior managers to Pep. So why not during Pep's reign?

City the richest and best team with the best manager but one CL final which they lost while Klopp has been to 3 CL finals while losing the league titles by a point twice. Even Tuchel has won it within months of arriving at Chelsea.

From the way Pep talks I think he knows this is a lacuna in his career.
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Same applies to Fergie or worse to be honest.

comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 2 days, 17 hours ago
Funny player. Never figured out what he is. Fairly poor defensively but a very skilled footballer. Reminds me a bit of Zinchenko
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Streets ahead of Zinchencko. Might not be the best defensively but is much more effective going forward.