Can we not try to continually compare them to Bielsa.
He was different, he was his own brand. He's moved on and we should too.
We're setting future managers up to fail if they don't live up to the perceptions of MB. Great guy, had the team playing great, got us promoted - i'll always be grateful to the him for that. But he and the tactics got sussed in the toughest league in domestic football.
Time to move on and look to the future ............
Whoever it is ...........
posted on 6/2/23
Please not back to Bielsa, back to ‘basketball tactics’
Good and strong defensive strength is not one of his priorities….slam dunk football is good if you win, but hell if you lose games consistently, which he did.
He reminded me of an athletics coach with emphasis on running and less on ball skills, the players looked like 5000m or 10000m runners.
I was disappointed also with his attitude to team selection in FA Cup games, his record of winning games was woeful, didn’t seem to recognise the tradition of the competition, the fans feeling of a good cup run.
In my opinion we would have been relegated had he not been sacked, the players looked burnt out, the defence was a joke!
I fear Leeds are in downward spiral now, coaches will probably come and go…that for me will be the Bielsa legacy, I thought he was overrated his defensive failures are forgotten by the fans, a kind of amnesia!
posted on 6/2/23
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I'm not as well informed as some of you Leeds fans but from the outside looking in, I felt he was quite unlucky in a lot of games. He had you playing some proper thrilling football at times. That Liverpool game was brilliant.
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From that response I assume you believe he's been woeful? On what grounds is he any worse than Biesla was in his final year? He took over a side that were shipping 4,5 and 6 goals for fun every week and saved you from certain relegation. What on earth did you expect from Marsch? That he was suddenly going to achieve mid-table with little to no backing financially? Come on. You're dreaming.
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Some of them thought they’d be pushing for Europe.
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Why not? We finished ninth in our first year back. We thought we would surely strengthen but we didn't and then we were decimated by injuries to an already small side. Imo marsch didn't save us at all, the players did. I wouldn't want bielsa back, he did his job brilliantly but was too stubborn to make the changes nessesary to succeed in the pl.
posted on 6/2/23
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comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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I'm not as well informed as some of you Leeds fans but from the outside looking in, I felt he was quite unlucky in a lot of games. He had you playing some proper thrilling football at times. That Liverpool game was brilliant.
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From that response I assume you believe he's been woeful? On what grounds is he any worse than Biesla was in his final year? He took over a side that were shipping 4,5 and 6 goals for fun every week and saved you from certain relegation. What on earth did you expect from Marsch? That he was suddenly going to achieve mid-table with little to no backing financially? Come on. You're dreaming.
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He got great financial backing.I don't know what you mean
posted on 6/2/23
I know it's beside the point now, but I'm getting really tired of the 'Bielsa shipped 4/5/6 goals a week crowd'. Yes, it got ugly towards the end but some have used that to distort the narrative and make it seem that this was the norm week in week out. It wasn't. Look beyond games against the big 6 in 21/22 and Man Utd in one match in 20/21, West Brom and Derby in a couple of freak games in 18/19 and there's nothing there at all.
As for who comes in next, well, I'm not too fussed as long as we don't see any ex-England basket cases (Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard) or anything sticking with the Red Bull style (Hasenhuttl - god no). A bit concerned that Chris Armas is apparently still with us.
posted on 6/2/23
It would be hilarious if Poch did take the Leeds job... I know it seems unlikely but don't underestimate what clout The 49ers may be able to yield.
Spurs fans would abolutely conbust especially as it would virtually ensure our survival this season and pip them for a Champions League spot next season.
Oh please God make this happen just for comedy value alone 🙏
posted on 6/2/23
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I know it's beside the point now, but I'm getting really tired of the 'Bielsa shipped 4/5/6 goals a week crowd'. Yes, it got ugly towards the end but some have used that to distort the narrative and make it seem that this was the norm week in week out. It wasn't. Look beyond games against the big 6 in 21/22 and Man Utd in one match in 20/21, West Brom and Derby in a couple of freak games in 18/19 and there's nothing there at all.
As for who comes in next, well, I'm not too fussed as long as we don't see any ex-England basket cases (Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard) or anything sticking with the Red Bull style (Hasenhuttl - god no). A bit concerned that Chris Armas is apparently still with us.
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Totally agree - Rooney, Lampard or Gerrard are never going to cut it as top-level managers. Bring on Poch.
posted on 6/2/23
Why not?
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Because the players aren’t good enough.
posted on 6/2/23
"Totally agree - Rooney, Lampard or Gerrard are never going to cut it as top-level managers. Bring on Poch.
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Why not?
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Because the players aren’t good enough."
Or they're not good enough!..
This club is big enough to get as good as any, its up to the people in charge of this club to do better!..
Now's the time for them to show which way they want to go!..
posted on 6/2/23
With regards to the OP - Never did.
Love MB but his small squad philosophy at PL Level was his achilles heal in the end.
posted on 6/2/23
Absolutely OP
Although the manager will be compared to Jesse ...... and then should have gotten Bielsa back.