I think that I have seen enough of Viera now to decide that he is just not good enough for our club. Yes, he is skilful, but he is too weak and gets too easily pushed off the ball. Never really has much influence on games. He needs to be loaned or sold at the end of the season. I don’t want to see him start any more games. I would rather see ESR starting .
Jorjinho, similarly, not that impressed. When fit I would rather see Elneny as Partey’s understudy. Like Viera, Jorginho floats around with a few nice touches but is slow and does not affect the game enough.
I think that this shows how important our first choice MF of Partey, Xhaka and Odegaard are. If one of them is missing our MF doesn’t really function.
Fabio Viera and Jorginho thoughts
posted on 17/3/23
(PS - I know technically it was an own goal but come on)
posted on 17/3/23
Agree with Vieira, but not for Jorginho. We knew straight away that Jorginho was going to be backup player. He isn't at Partey's level ofc, but he is way better than Elneny. Elneny would never pass like that to Martinelli for the goal yesterday.
posted on 17/3/23
Viera is 22 and just moved to a new country , its his first ever transfer. I think he deserves time to settle. Very harsh to write him off already
posted on 17/3/23
Vieira was bought for the long term, he hasn't had a sustained run in the team to get into any momentum, and when he does play it hasn't always been in the same role so it has been difficult for him. Wouldn't be the first youngster brought in from abroad who has not had a massive impact in the first season. He wasn't a starter for Porto, only started about 25 senior games, so you have to have some faith that whoever was behind the move has seen something in him that will develop over time.
The issue with Jorginho is he is a very different style to Partey, so when he comes in to rest Partey it changes the whole midfield. Obviously he was not first choice, although Arteta has loved him for a long time.
posted on 17/3/23
Far too early to judge Vieira. He has only started 2 league games, he scored in 1 of them. He's also had a fair few assists in the league when he's come on. He has been okay in the Europa league games, yesterday wasn't his best game but I still think he is a player that could turn out to be decent.
posted on 17/3/23
What you'll soon realise re: Jorgino is just how poor a passer he is.
His through balls are typically overhit, bouncy and have the wrong pace on them.
What he is good at is being available and in space and keeping the ball ticking over. For this reason he will have a high pass %.
He's actually better off the ball than people give him credit, reads the game well.
posted on 17/3/23
Jorgi is trash. Vieira was awful last night but it’s far too early to write him off.
posted on 17/3/23
People writing off Vieira are fooking insane.
posted on 17/3/23
Can't write off Viera yet. He has shown some bright moment in games, but has also struggled in several games. Need to give him more time and certainly another season.
Jorginho, we knew he had limitations, he's clearly not on Partey's level but he still has a critical squad role to play for us. We'll need everyone we have.
posted on 17/3/23
Jorginho is miles ahead of Elneny and hes already proved his worth.
1 bad game where the whole team was utter garbage and you want him out.
As for Viera 1st season in the PL i'll judge him fully next season. Hes shown glimpses but has also been poor so its been a 50/50 season so far.