Football rules

Also you are not allowed to touch the keeper whilst he is jumping and the wolves player clearly did so foul on the keeper

comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.

Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
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Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
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They will have that in Serie A this season

comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 5 minutes ago
This VAR official Michael Salisbury has got form, he did something similar denying Brighton getting a stonewall penalty at Spurs last season and he got suspended for one game... pathetic and highly suspicious that him and probably many others have been captured by some far east betting syndicate or mafia related entity doling out brown envelopes... sadly indicative of the world we all live in now.
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Why not give the Semedo handball then? Not heard an answer to this yet.

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Sorry Clock yes well I suppose he felt it wasnt worthy of overturning the refs on field decision as he had deemed it not deliberate as his hands were tucked in so I presume the VAR guy saw it that way too and would know the on field ref would not over turn it and also figured it wouldn't matter anyway as Man U were hot favourites to beat Wolves and there was plenty of time left for Man U to do so.

That's the point, Man U's penalty claim would never be overturned by the ref unless it was in the dying seconds and the scores were level but the Wolves one which was a stonewall penalty which had the VAR guy allowed the ref to see the incident on the monitor that VAR official if he is a corrupt so and so would know a penalty would have to be given and a great opportunity for Wolves to equalise and scupper all those banking on a Man U victory.

Either way that VAR guy is either dodgy or incompetent as that's twice he's been at the centre of this kind of controversy and shouldn't be allowed to officiate in that capacity ever again.

comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 5 minutes ago
This VAR official Michael Salisbury has got form, he did something similar denying Brighton getting a stonewall penalty at Spurs last season and he got suspended for one game... pathetic and highly suspicious that him and probably many others have been captured by some far east betting syndicate or mafia related entity doling out brown envelopes... sadly indicative of the world we all live in now.
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Why not give the Semedo handball then? Not heard an answer to this yet.

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Because most betting isn’t just win/lose. There are literally hundreds of different bets in any game. To answer your specific query, one bet could be ‘will a penalty be awarded’?

I’m not saying that betting is the reason behind these decisions btw, I have no idea, I’m just answering your question.

comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 6 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 5 minutes ago
This VAR official Michael Salisbury has got form, he did something similar denying Brighton getting a stonewall penalty at Spurs last season and he got suspended for one game... pathetic and highly suspicious that him and probably many others have been captured by some far east betting syndicate or mafia related entity doling out brown envelopes... sadly indicative of the world we all live in now.
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Why not give the Semedo handball then? Not heard an answer to this yet.

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Sorry Clock yes well I suppose he felt it wasnt worthy of overturning the refs on field decision as he had deemed it not deliberate as his hands were tucked in so I presume the VAR guy saw it that way too and would know the on field ref would not over turn it and also figured it wouldn't matter anyway as Man U were hot favourites to beat Wolves and there was plenty of time left for Man U to do so.

That's the point, Man U's penalty claim would never be overturned by the ref unless it was in the dying seconds and the scores were level but the Wolves one which was a stonewall penalty which had the VAR guy allowed the ref to see the incident on the monitor that VAR official if he is a corrupt so and so would know a penalty would have to be given and a great opportunity for Wolves to equalise and scupper all those banking on a Man U victory.

Either way that VAR guy is either dodgy or incompetent as that's twice he's been at the centre of this kind of controversy and shouldn't be allowed to officiate in that capacity ever again.


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Barry?

comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 5 minutes ago
This VAR official Michael Salisbury has got form, he did something similar denying Brighton getting a stonewall penalty at Spurs last season and he got suspended for one game... pathetic and highly suspicious that him and probably many others have been captured by some far east betting syndicate or mafia related entity doling out brown envelopes... sadly indicative of the world we all live in now.
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Why not give the Semedo handball then? Not heard an answer to this yet.

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Sorry Clock yes well I suppose he felt it wasnt worthy of overturning the refs on field decision as he had deemed it not deliberate as his hands were tucked in so I presume the VAR guy saw it that way too and would know the on field ref would not over turn it and also figured it wouldn't matter anyway as Man U were hot favourites to beat Wolves and there was plenty of time left for Man U to do so.

That's the point, Man U's penalty claim would never be overturned by the ref unless it was in the dying seconds and the scores were level but the Wolves one which was a stonewall penalty which had the VAR guy allowed the ref to see the incident on the monitor that VAR official if he is a corrupt so and so would know a penalty would have to be given and a great opportunity for Wolves to equalise and scupper all those banking on a Man U victory.

Either way that VAR guy is either dodgy or incompetent as that's twice he's been at the centre of this kind of controversy and shouldn't be allowed to officiate in that capacity ever again.


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Could it not just be that both the handball and the Onana one were, like, 70/30 decisions? Both were giveable but they got one right and one wrong? In real time for the Onana one, the ref just sees a few players go up for the ball and some of them collide. Happens all the time and he says no penalty. Because of the daft "clear and obvious" wording, VAR thinks there may have been an error but not a "clear and obvious" one so doesn't intervene. That was Carragher's view as well: it wasn't enough of a mistake to overturn.

The keeper was jumping for the ball and the Wolves player clattered him. Most of the time that's a clear booking for the Wolves player as endangering the keeper and in many cases can actually result in a red cos the keeper could have broken his neck or been knocked out. I feel that keepers need to be given more protection and I hope Onana's confidence isn't knocked too badly. First match in a new league and can't jump for a ball without being clattered by an opposition player and nothing done about it.

comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 6 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 5 minutes ago
This VAR official Michael Salisbury has got form, he did something similar denying Brighton getting a stonewall penalty at Spurs last season and he got suspended for one game... pathetic and highly suspicious that him and probably many others have been captured by some far east betting syndicate or mafia related entity doling out brown envelopes... sadly indicative of the world we all live in now.
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Why not give the Semedo handball then? Not heard an answer to this yet.

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Sorry Clock yes well I suppose he felt it wasnt worthy of overturning the refs on field decision as he had deemed it not deliberate as his hands were tucked in so I presume the VAR guy saw it that way too and would know the on field ref would not over turn it and also figured it wouldn't matter anyway as Man U were hot favourites to beat Wolves and there was plenty of time left for Man U to do so.

That's the point, Man U's penalty claim would never be overturned by the ref unless it was in the dying seconds and the scores were level but the Wolves one which was a stonewall penalty which had the VAR guy allowed the ref to see the incident on the monitor that VAR official if he is a corrupt so and so would know a penalty would have to be given and a great opportunity for Wolves to equalise and scupper all those banking on a Man U victory.

Either way that VAR guy is either dodgy or incompetent as that's twice he's been at the centre of this kind of controversy and shouldn't be allowed to officiate in that capacity ever again.


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Barry?
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Sandy?

Anyone remember pickford Vs VVD.... cleaned out VVD and give him a lengthy spell on the sidelines....no pen..not even a foul ffs...disgraceful.

comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 4 minutes ago
Anyone remember pickford Vs VVD.... cleaned out VVD and give him a lengthy spell on the sidelines....no pen..not even a foul ffs...disgraceful.
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Hadn't the offside flag already gone up?

As I remember it the controversy was whether Pickford should have received a yellow/red card regardless of the fact that the game had stopped.