Rules are fine. just when a VAR person decides "hes" not going to award a penalty..yes thats right "HE" decides. then its fine. Obviously should have been a penalty to Wolves. but its not gonna be given.
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Doesn't it just?
Very blatant foul by Onana, but for some reason keepers often are allowed to be as reckless as they like without consequence.
Always gonna be interpretation. Any non-corrupt is gona say that is a foul anywhere else except such decisions don't go to VAR. I think it has been interpreted as 'yes, its a foul but maybe not enough of a foul as to get the advantage of a pen'? Which makes a mockery of the hand ball interpretations but that's the fckd up, keeper over-protected world we live in.
It's the keeper thing, isn't it? It was a foul but keepers get a lot of leeway in those circumstances for some reason
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
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Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 28 minutes ago
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Doesn't it just?
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Yeah.
Liverpool should have had a penalty yesterday, Wolves today.
Officials are just crap whether they are on the pitch or behind a monitor.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
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Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
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I watched the rugby match on Saturday and all video decisions were clearly explained. Why can’t football do this?
Referees union or whatever they're called apologise to Wolves saying yes it was a clear and obvious error and should have been a penalty.... I hope that VAR official gets suitably disciplined/suspended or preferably sacked... Unacceptable incompetence.
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
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Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
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I watched the rugby match on Saturday and all video decisions were clearly explained. Why can’t football do this?
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Fifa has banned the use of VAR audio during live broadcast, wonder why. As transparent as a Guinness Sh!t
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
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Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
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I watched the rugby match on Saturday and all video decisions were clearly explained. Why can’t football do this?
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Fifa has banned the use of VAR audio during live broadcast, wonder why. As transparent as a Guinness Sh!t
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So let's say it's corruption favouring the "big teams" then. Why not give a penalty for the Semedo handball? I'm not saying it should have been given, but it was "giveable", wasn't it? It seemed to hit his hand.
It just makes a mockery of the whole 'clear and obvious error' nonsense.
How can one official say it was a clear and obvious error when the VAR team didn't think so? (And vice versa.)
Who decides what is 'clear and obvious'?
It's ludicrous how they've overcomplicated VAR. Tonight's incident was a clear example of an incident where VAR should intervene to help out the on-field referee.
Might as well not have VAR as far as I'm concerned. It does far more harm than good at the moment.
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 2 minutes ago
It just makes a mockery of the whole 'clear and obvious error' nonsense.
How can one official say it was a clear and obvious error when the VAR team didn't think so? (And vice versa.)
Who decides what is 'clear and obvious'?
It's ludicrous how they've overcomplicated VAR. Tonight's incident was a clear example of an incident where VAR should intervene to help out the on-field referee.
Might as well not have VAR as far as I'm concerned. It does far more harm than good at the moment.
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And who's going to look at a decision and say, "Yeah, it's a mistake, but it's not a clear or obvious one" and just let the original decision stand?
What would be great is to see is the VAR ref given the chance to justify exactly how he could look at the incident and not think it's a foul? They get it wrong so often that maybe humiliating them is worth a try.
If you miss the ball and takeout an opponent it's the easiest free kick of all to give and I can't comprehend how anybody with slow motion and various camera angles available to them (not that it should be needed) wouldn't overrule the refs on field decision.
Once again it's not VAR at fault it's the idiots who operate it.
I wonder if people truly realise the vast and enormous amounts of betting revenue that is at stake over whether a game is won, drawn or lost, what the correct score is, etc... it's billions and billions and billions so when that level of money is involved, sadly corruption of some description is not too far behind lurking in the shadows.
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 24 seconds ago
I wonder if people truly realise the vast and enormous amounts of betting revenue that is at stake over whether a game is won, drawn or lost, what the correct score is, etc... it's billions and billions and billions so when that level of money is involved, sadly corruption of some description is not too far behind lurking in the shadows.
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Not disagreeing, but I ask again: why not just give the Semedo handball at 0-0 if the aim is a United win?
Wasn't last man so can't be a pen. There was cover behind him
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
Wasn't last man so can't be a pen. There was cover behind him
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This must be sarcasm
This VAR official Michael Salisbury has got form, he did something similar denying Brighton getting a stonewall penalty at Spurs last season and he got suspended for one game... pathetic and highly suspicious that him and probably many others have been captured by some far east betting syndicate or mafia related entity doling out brown envelopes... sadly indicative of the world we all live in now.
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 5 minutes ago
This VAR official Michael Salisbury has got form, he did something similar denying Brighton getting a stonewall penalty at Spurs last season and he got suspended for one game... pathetic and highly suspicious that him and probably many others have been captured by some far east betting syndicate or mafia related entity doling out brown envelopes... sadly indicative of the world we all live in now.
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Why not give the Semedo handball then? Not heard an answer to this yet.
Also you are not allowed to touch the keeper whilst he is jumping and the wolves player clearly did so foul on the keeper
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
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Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
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They will have that in Serie A this season
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posted on 14/8/23
Rules are fine. just when a VAR person decides "hes" not going to award a penalty..yes thats right "HE" decides. then its fine. Obviously should have been a penalty to Wolves. but its not gonna be given.
posted on 14/8/23
Football rules
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Doesn't it just?
posted on 14/8/23
Very blatant foul by Onana, but for some reason keepers often are allowed to be as reckless as they like without consequence.
posted on 14/8/23
Always gonna be interpretation. Any non-corrupt is gona say that is a foul anywhere else except such decisions don't go to VAR. I think it has been interpreted as 'yes, its a foul but maybe not enough of a foul as to get the advantage of a pen'? Which makes a mockery of the hand ball interpretations but that's the fckd up, keeper over-protected world we live in.
posted on 14/8/23
It's the keeper thing, isn't it? It was a foul but keepers get a lot of leeway in those circumstances for some reason
posted on 14/8/23
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
posted on 14/8/23
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
posted on 14/8/23
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
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Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
posted on 14/8/23
comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 28 minutes ago
Football rules
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Doesn't it just?
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Yeah.
posted on 14/8/23
Liverpool should have had a penalty yesterday, Wolves today.
Officials are just crap whether they are on the pitch or behind a monitor.
posted on 14/8/23
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
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Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
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I watched the rugby match on Saturday and all video decisions were clearly explained. Why can’t football do this?
posted on 14/8/23
Referees union or whatever they're called apologise to Wolves saying yes it was a clear and obvious error and should have been a penalty.... I hope that VAR official gets suitably disciplined/suspended or preferably sacked... Unacceptable incompetence.
posted on 14/8/23
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
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I watched the rugby match on Saturday and all video decisions were clearly explained. Why can’t football do this?
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Fifa has banned the use of VAR audio during live broadcast, wonder why. As transparent as a Guinness Sh!t
posted on 14/8/23
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
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Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I watched the rugby match on Saturday and all video decisions were clearly explained. Why can’t football do this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fifa has banned the use of VAR audio during live broadcast, wonder why. As transparent as a Guinness Sh!t
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So let's say it's corruption favouring the "big teams" then. Why not give a penalty for the Semedo handball? I'm not saying it should have been given, but it was "giveable", wasn't it? It seemed to hit his hand.
posted on 14/8/23
It just makes a mockery of the whole 'clear and obvious error' nonsense.
How can one official say it was a clear and obvious error when the VAR team didn't think so? (And vice versa.)
Who decides what is 'clear and obvious'?
It's ludicrous how they've overcomplicated VAR. Tonight's incident was a clear example of an incident where VAR should intervene to help out the on-field referee.
Might as well not have VAR as far as I'm concerned. It does far more harm than good at the moment.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 2 minutes ago
It just makes a mockery of the whole 'clear and obvious error' nonsense.
How can one official say it was a clear and obvious error when the VAR team didn't think so? (And vice versa.)
Who decides what is 'clear and obvious'?
It's ludicrous how they've overcomplicated VAR. Tonight's incident was a clear example of an incident where VAR should intervene to help out the on-field referee.
Might as well not have VAR as far as I'm concerned. It does far more harm than good at the moment.
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And who's going to look at a decision and say, "Yeah, it's a mistake, but it's not a clear or obvious one" and just let the original decision stand?
posted on 15/8/23
What would be great is to see is the VAR ref given the chance to justify exactly how he could look at the incident and not think it's a foul? They get it wrong so often that maybe humiliating them is worth a try.
If you miss the ball and takeout an opponent it's the easiest free kick of all to give and I can't comprehend how anybody with slow motion and various camera angles available to them (not that it should be needed) wouldn't overrule the refs on field decision.
Once again it's not VAR at fault it's the idiots who operate it.
posted on 15/8/23
I wonder if people truly realise the vast and enormous amounts of betting revenue that is at stake over whether a game is won, drawn or lost, what the correct score is, etc... it's billions and billions and billions so when that level of money is involved, sadly corruption of some description is not too far behind lurking in the shadows.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 24 seconds ago
I wonder if people truly realise the vast and enormous amounts of betting revenue that is at stake over whether a game is won, drawn or lost, what the correct score is, etc... it's billions and billions and billions so when that level of money is involved, sadly corruption of some description is not too far behind lurking in the shadows.
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Not disagreeing, but I ask again: why not just give the Semedo handball at 0-0 if the aim is a United win?
posted on 15/8/23
Wasn't last man so can't be a pen. There was cover behind him
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Scott Tiffoney (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
Wasn't last man so can't be a pen. There was cover behind him
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This must be sarcasm
posted on 15/8/23
This VAR official Michael Salisbury has got form, he did something similar denying Brighton getting a stonewall penalty at Spurs last season and he got suspended for one game... pathetic and highly suspicious that him and probably many others have been captured by some far east betting syndicate or mafia related entity doling out brown envelopes... sadly indicative of the world we all live in now.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Macca: Emily Bronte's lovechild (U8194)
posted 5 minutes ago
This VAR official Michael Salisbury has got form, he did something similar denying Brighton getting a stonewall penalty at Spurs last season and he got suspended for one game... pathetic and highly suspicious that him and probably many others have been captured by some far east betting syndicate or mafia related entity doling out brown envelopes... sadly indicative of the world we all live in now.
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Why not give the Semedo handball then? Not heard an answer to this yet.
posted on 15/8/23
Also you are not allowed to touch the keeper whilst he is jumping and the wolves player clearly did so foul on the keeper
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by KevinLFC (U6660)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
Its clear and obvious nonsense. Purely there to protect the REF.
Just give the correct decision ffs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Completely agree with this. It seems that VAR has been designed so that referees can’t be embarrassed. In cricket and rugby, TMO or third umpire will apply the rules irrespective of what the ref/umpire has decided. Football needs to replicate this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its about time we start hearing the conversations in the var box as to how these reach these bizarre decisions.
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They will have that in Serie A this season
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