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VAR & United.

I noticed we are ranked 20th out 20th for the VAR goals table with minus 5. That's 3 worse than 19th place too. We are clearly not paying these refs on our payroll very well are we? 😉

I'm still scratching my head at how they can rule Hary Maguire has impacted that play significantly when he doesn't touch the ball or put the defender off at all really. That goal would have happened either way basically.
But the 3 separate incidents against Arsenal that led to the Newcastle goal were just fine and weren't obvious errors apparently.

On that United non goal too......I haven't seen a ref go to the monitor before for an offside. They usually just tell them it is and it gets disallowed. Only for fouls do they usually go and take a second look.

Surely the people who were most adamant that the game needed VAR are sick of it at this point? If we are still going to get loads of errors every weekend anyway then go back to how it was. Maybe install the system for the offsides they used at the world cup and in Europe and leave it there.

Nothing worse than seeing your team score a goal and not being able to fully celebrate it. Get rid.

posted on 6/11/23

comment by Gearing up for the Cycle to Start Again! (U17162)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Under Neon Loneliness (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
I still maintain that if VAR was binned off forever no one would really miss it.
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I watched Wrexhams cup game with Mansfield on Saturday where there was no VAR.

Wrexham should have had two penalties both conceded by the same player that the ref missed.

All the commentators could go on about was how they would have been given with VAR.


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VAR is needed, as is a better version of it needed. It's the assistant refs in the VAR box, the tools at their disposal, and the authorities in charge making it useless
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Unless VAR can be used correctly and for all levels of the FA Pyramid, not just the Premier League... then it should be binned and we go back to refs making realtime decisions like they used to.

posted on 7/11/23

Only idiots say this.

You need to start watching the games while comprehending what would happen if there was no VAR. Incidences that would absolutely blow up aren't even noticed.

It takes some effort to understand what one is not experiencing at any one moment. So many goals would have been ruled out or unfairly allowed. When VAR saves the day people just breeze over it.

VAR stays. The major problem with VAR is implementation, especially in England. This wouldn't be so stoopid if you were asking for improvements instead of removal. I watch La Liga and Serie A and they have 3D offside and it takes a jiffy to call. Meanwhile in England we are still drawing lines. Why? We are the richest league, no?

posted on 7/11/23

The problem with VAR is the human element.

posted on 7/11/23

F-ck VAR, human error is part of the game for me. VAR will never eradicate that but adds so much dead air when they’re looking at incidents, it just ruins the game for me while not making decisions 100% correct so is pointless.

No matter what, refs will always be annoying tw-ts, lets let’s just let them be annoying tw-ts without VAR.

posted on 7/11/23

You need to start watching the games while comprehending what would happen if there was no VAR.
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some of us have 'watched' football for a longtime before VAR came in and the contreversy was never as bad or as intense at it is now. Its literally ruining the game. Especially for those who are actually 'watching' the games in the stadium. VAR is designed for the TV viewers and gives the television companies easy content to fill to film time before during and after the games with their 'match annalysis'. People in the stadiums (Old Trafford anyway) dont really know wtf is going on on with a VAR call. It ruins the whole match experiences.

posted on 7/11/23

comment by RB&W - One man down, One nil up (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
You need to start watching the games while comprehending what would happen if there was no VAR.
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some of us have 'watched' football for a longtime before VAR came in and the contreversy was never as bad or as intense at it is now. Its literally ruining the game. Especially for those who are actually 'watching' the games in the stadium. VAR is designed for the TV viewers and gives the television companies easy content to fill to film time before during and after the games with their 'match annalysis'. People in the stadiums (Old Trafford anyway) dont really know wtf is going on on with a VAR call. It ruins the whole match experiences.
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I hear this a lot, and don't deny it to be the case for some, but football's more expensive than ever and grounds are packed, so it still seems to be a worthwhile enough experience for those attending.

posted on 7/11/23

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 30 seconds ago

comment by RB&W - One man down, One nil up (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
You need to start watching the games while comprehending what would happen if there was no VAR.
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some of us have 'watched' football for a longtime before VAR came in and the contreversy was never as bad or as intense at it is now. Its literally ruining the game.
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I respectfully disagree. I certainly don't want to go back to pre VAR days myself. VAR isn't perfect but I much prefer it.

posted on 7/11/23

TV and matchgoing experiences. And never the twain will.meet.

posted on 7/11/23

VAR ain’t the issue. It is the corrupt refs and assistants reviewing in charge that ruins it.

posted on 7/11/23

The Video part is great, just need competent people.

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