Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
Nothing worse than seeing your team score a goal and not being able to fully celebrate it. Get rid
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This weekend was ridiculous. McTominay, Dunk, Sinisterra, Gordon - just off the top of my head, four strikes on Saturday that were celebrated then had to go to a review, two of them being overturned.
I still maintain that if VAR was binned off forever no one would really miss it.
I absolutely hate it. My celebration for any goal we score now (which isn't many anyway) is toned down slightly because VAR is in the back of my mind. Even then I was fairly confident they wouldn't find a way to disallow McT's goal on Saturday but of course they managed it.
Wont happen but would love to just get rid of it. I'll take the incorrect decisions that come with that.
Those tables are meaningless as they don't count blatant decisions they completely ignore like in Man Utd games. We get done worse than listed as they ignore many decisions.
I reckon you'd have made a great ref, Hafi.
I'm still scratching my head at how they can rule Hary Maguire has impacted that play significantly when he doesn't touch the ball or put the defender off at all really. That goal would have happened either way basically.
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Maguire is in front of goal and 6 yards out. He clearly makes an attempt to play the ball, which means the defender has to go in the challenge for the ball with Maguire otherwise Maguire has a free shot. If Maguire hadn't gone for the ball then the defender can go further before going for the challenge, meaning he is closer to the ball (and Garnacho), making it more likely he will get the ball either directly from the free kick or from Garnachos cross.
The rule literally states that a player in an offside position should be given offside if:
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
All three apply to Maguires attempts to reach the free-kick.
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/425731
What I don't get is Man City goal which was only scored due to an offside stood against Fulham while ours against Burnley didn't. The Maguire one was annoying as if Maguire wasn't there we would have scored.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
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Only 4
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
I reckon you'd have made a great ref, Hafi.
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Would have been the first ref ever for sending off a player due to an Xpected Red
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 36 seconds ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
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Let’s be honest, what game can United legitimately look back on this season and claim a VAR decision cost them
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
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Only 4
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Probably 7 if we're fair.
I say it a lot but it’s the consistency that’s the issue.
The foul on Rodri for the penalty happens almost every game, and is less forceful than the foul on Hoijlund va arsenal.
Same for the Hoijlund goal Vs Burnley, there have been a couple of others that affected the goalkeepers chances of saving the ball that were ruled lawful (and Evans was scoring that goal regardless of Hoijlund position).
To be fair I don’t think we’ve lost many points because of VAR, but I think we were unlucky not to score first versus Brighton when we started well and unlucky against Arsenal for the offside, the lack of a penalty and lack of a foul for their second.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
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Only 4
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Probably 7 if we're fair.
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And it’s all De Gea’s fault
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 47 minutes ago
I'm still scratching my head at how they can rule Hary Maguire has impacted that play significantly when he doesn't touch the ball or put the defender off at all really. That goal would have happened either way basically.
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Maguire is in front of goal and 6 yards out. He clearly makes an attempt to play the ball, which means the defender has to go in the challenge for the ball with Maguire otherwise Maguire has a free shot. If Maguire hadn't gone for the ball then the defender can go further before going for the challenge, meaning he is closer to the ball (and Garnacho), making it more likely he will get the ball either directly from the free kick or from Garnachos cross.
The rule literally states that a player in an offside position should be given offside if:
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
All three apply to Maguires attempts to reach the free-kick.
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comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 47 minutes ago
I'm still scratching my head at how they can rule Hary Maguire has impacted that play significantly when he doesn't touch the ball or put the defender off at all really. That goal would have happened either way basically.
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Maguire is in front of goal and 6 yards out. He clearly makes an attempt to play the ball, which means the defender has to go in the challenge for the ball with Maguire otherwise Maguire has a free shot. If Maguire hadn't gone for the ball then the defender can go further before going for the challenge, meaning he is closer to the ball (and Garnacho), making it more likely he will get the ball either directly from the free kick or from Garnachos cross.
The rule literally states that a player in an offside position should be given offside if:
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
All three apply to Maguires attempts to reach the free-kick.
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Sorry, but this is surely accurate?
He was definitely “interfering with play” even if we go back to the old school system.
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 37 minutes ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
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That's not hard.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 36 seconds ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
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Let’s be honest, what game can United legitimately look back on this season and claim a VAR decision cost them
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All of them, obviously.
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 47 minutes ago
I'm still scratching my head at how they can rule Hary Maguire has impacted that play significantly when he doesn't touch the ball or put the defender off at all really. That goal would have happened either way basically.
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Maguire is in front of goal and 6 yards out. He clearly makes an attempt to play the ball, which means the defender has to go in the challenge for the ball with Maguire otherwise Maguire has a free shot. If Maguire hadn't gone for the ball then the defender can go further before going for the challenge, meaning he is closer to the ball (and Garnacho), making it more likely he will get the ball either directly from the free kick or from Garnachos cross.
The rule literally states that a player in an offside position should be given offside if:
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
All three apply to Maguires attempts to reach the free-kick.
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Sorry, but this is surely accurate?
He was definitely “interfering with play” even if we go back to the old school system.
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It is 100% accurate but people still crying. Its offside and actually great example of var working
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 36 seconds ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
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Let’s be honest, what game can United legitimately look back on this season and claim a VAR decision cost them
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Wolves not getting a penalty cost us a few hours listening to people whine.
comment by Clockwork Red: Amrabats in the Belfry (U4892)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 36 seconds ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
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Let’s be honest, what game can United legitimately look back on this season and claim a VAR decision cost them
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Wolves not getting a penalty cost us a few hours listening to people whine.
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Hours? Weeks and months. Was brought up again at the weekend. 'Well, United can't complain because they got a decision against Wolves.'
Don't think you can argue with the Maguire decision, he was 9ffside and I'd argue you're always interfering with play in that situation.
Don't mind VAR for offside at all, and that's a good example if it working.
I don't particularly enjoy the 'clear and obvious' part though and feel there must be a better way than that.
To the OP you really should have posted this on the Arsenal board, they used to be the first to cry it's all a United conspiracy
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posted on 6/11/23
Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
posted on 6/11/23
Nothing worse than seeing your team score a goal and not being able to fully celebrate it. Get rid
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This weekend was ridiculous. McTominay, Dunk, Sinisterra, Gordon - just off the top of my head, four strikes on Saturday that were celebrated then had to go to a review, two of them being overturned.
posted on 6/11/23
I still maintain that if VAR was binned off forever no one would really miss it.
posted on 6/11/23
I absolutely hate it. My celebration for any goal we score now (which isn't many anyway) is toned down slightly because VAR is in the back of my mind. Even then I was fairly confident they wouldn't find a way to disallow McT's goal on Saturday but of course they managed it.
Wont happen but would love to just get rid of it. I'll take the incorrect decisions that come with that.
posted on 6/11/23
Those tables are meaningless as they don't count blatant decisions they completely ignore like in Man Utd games. We get done worse than listed as they ignore many decisions.
posted on 6/11/23
I reckon you'd have made a great ref, Hafi.
posted on 6/11/23
I'm still scratching my head at how they can rule Hary Maguire has impacted that play significantly when he doesn't touch the ball or put the defender off at all really. That goal would have happened either way basically.
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Maguire is in front of goal and 6 yards out. He clearly makes an attempt to play the ball, which means the defender has to go in the challenge for the ball with Maguire otherwise Maguire has a free shot. If Maguire hadn't gone for the ball then the defender can go further before going for the challenge, meaning he is closer to the ball (and Garnacho), making it more likely he will get the ball either directly from the free kick or from Garnachos cross.
The rule literally states that a player in an offside position should be given offside if:
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
All three apply to Maguires attempts to reach the free-kick.
posted on 6/11/23
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/425731
What I don't get is Man City goal which was only scored due to an offside stood against Fulham while ours against Burnley didn't. The Maguire one was annoying as if Maguire wasn't there we would have scored.
posted on 6/11/23
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
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Only 4
posted on 6/11/23
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
I reckon you'd have made a great ref, Hafi.
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Would have been the first ref ever for sending off a player due to an Xpected Red
posted on 6/11/23
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
posted on 6/11/23
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 36 seconds ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
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Let’s be honest, what game can United legitimately look back on this season and claim a VAR decision cost them
posted on 6/11/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
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Only 4
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Probably 7 if we're fair.
posted on 6/11/23
I say it a lot but it’s the consistency that’s the issue.
The foul on Rodri for the penalty happens almost every game, and is less forceful than the foul on Hoijlund va arsenal.
Same for the Hoijlund goal Vs Burnley, there have been a couple of others that affected the goalkeepers chances of saving the ball that were ruled lawful (and Evans was scoring that goal regardless of Hoijlund position).
To be fair I don’t think we’ve lost many points because of VAR, but I think we were unlucky not to score first versus Brighton when we started well and unlucky against Arsenal for the offside, the lack of a penalty and lack of a foul for their second.
posted on 6/11/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
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Only 4
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After 1 game
posted on 6/11/23
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
Looking forward to Hafi coming on to explain how you should in fact be 4 points ahead of Spurs.
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Only 4
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Probably 7 if we're fair.
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And it’s all De Gea’s fault
posted on 6/11/23
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 47 minutes ago
I'm still scratching my head at how they can rule Hary Maguire has impacted that play significantly when he doesn't touch the ball or put the defender off at all really. That goal would have happened either way basically.
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Maguire is in front of goal and 6 yards out. He clearly makes an attempt to play the ball, which means the defender has to go in the challenge for the ball with Maguire otherwise Maguire has a free shot. If Maguire hadn't gone for the ball then the defender can go further before going for the challenge, meaning he is closer to the ball (and Garnacho), making it more likely he will get the ball either directly from the free kick or from Garnachos cross.
The rule literally states that a player in an offside position should be given offside if:
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
All three apply to Maguires attempts to reach the free-kick.
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posted on 6/11/23
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 47 minutes ago
I'm still scratching my head at how they can rule Hary Maguire has impacted that play significantly when he doesn't touch the ball or put the defender off at all really. That goal would have happened either way basically.
=======
Maguire is in front of goal and 6 yards out. He clearly makes an attempt to play the ball, which means the defender has to go in the challenge for the ball with Maguire otherwise Maguire has a free shot. If Maguire hadn't gone for the ball then the defender can go further before going for the challenge, meaning he is closer to the ball (and Garnacho), making it more likely he will get the ball either directly from the free kick or from Garnachos cross.
The rule literally states that a player in an offside position should be given offside if:
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
All three apply to Maguires attempts to reach the free-kick.
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Sorry, but this is surely accurate?
He was definitely “interfering with play” even if we go back to the old school system.
posted on 6/11/23
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 37 minutes ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
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That's not hard.
posted on 6/11/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 36 seconds ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
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Let’s be honest, what game can United legitimately look back on this season and claim a VAR decision cost them
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All of them, obviously.
posted on 6/11/23
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 47 minutes ago
I'm still scratching my head at how they can rule Hary Maguire has impacted that play significantly when he doesn't touch the ball or put the defender off at all really. That goal would have happened either way basically.
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Maguire is in front of goal and 6 yards out. He clearly makes an attempt to play the ball, which means the defender has to go in the challenge for the ball with Maguire otherwise Maguire has a free shot. If Maguire hadn't gone for the ball then the defender can go further before going for the challenge, meaning he is closer to the ball (and Garnacho), making it more likely he will get the ball either directly from the free kick or from Garnachos cross.
The rule literally states that a player in an offside position should be given offside if:
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
All three apply to Maguires attempts to reach the free-kick.
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Sorry, but this is surely accurate?
He was definitely “interfering with play” even if we go back to the old school system.
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It is 100% accurate but people still crying. Its offside and actually great example of var working
posted on 6/11/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 36 seconds ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
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Let’s be honest, what game can United legitimately look back on this season and claim a VAR decision cost them
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Wolves not getting a penalty cost us a few hours listening to people whine.
posted on 6/11/23
comment by Clockwork Red: Amrabats in the Belfry (U4892)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Losing My Reguilón (U4195)
posted 36 seconds ago
We must have had as many goals ruled out by VAR this season as we've scored. Certainly seems that way.
VAR is a total mess, but they're not going to bin it and I don't know what the answer is.
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Let’s be honest, what game can United legitimately look back on this season and claim a VAR decision cost them
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Wolves not getting a penalty cost us a few hours listening to people whine.
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Hours? Weeks and months. Was brought up again at the weekend. 'Well, United can't complain because they got a decision against Wolves.'
posted on 6/11/23
Don't think you can argue with the Maguire decision, he was 9ffside and I'd argue you're always interfering with play in that situation.
Don't mind VAR for offside at all, and that's a good example if it working.
I don't particularly enjoy the 'clear and obvious' part though and feel there must be a better way than that.
posted on 6/11/23
To the OP you really should have posted this on the Arsenal board, they used to be the first to cry it's all a United conspiracy
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