In the past, we had a lot of good strikers, but who is the last elite striker we had? For me, it's RVP. Since he left, there wasn't a striker at that level. Auba was good, but he was never at that level and he didn't felt like a gamechanger. In fact, Sanchez is maybe the only gamechanger we had since RVP, but again he isn't a striker. In the past 10 years or more we were constantly linked with top strikers but never bought any. Suarez and Benzema are first that comes to my mind, but we never got them. I think it's time we put a focus on buying an ELITE striker, not just very good striker, but an elite one.
posted on 12/1/24
So in 2016/17 Auba was elite?
posted on 12/1/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 10 seconds ago
So in 2016/17 Auba was elite?
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No Messi , Ronaldo and Lewandoski, Suarez were all better thats where the discussion for the elite players of that year IMO.
And the pros agreed, they had Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Ronaldo, Griezman and Vardy as better than him
posted on 12/1/24
Auba outscored Ronaldo, Suarez and Lewandoski Their figures were made to look like chump change.
The way you continually change the parameters for "elite" makes this confusing. One minute it was THE best, then it was a group and you couldn't just have Haaland, then Osimhen is in for 26 goals, but Auba is out for 31 goals and outscoring his peers??
Hard to keep up with you, tbh.
posted on 12/1/24
And Haaland has only scored more than 10 goals twice in his 8 PL seasons anyway
posted on 12/1/24
Would also point out Lacazette oustscored Osimhen last season, yet you would say Osimhen is elite?? Despite being outscored in by far his best goal scoring season by someone who clearly isn't elite.
posted on 12/1/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 34 minutes ago
Would also point out Lacazette oustscored Osimhen last season, yet you would say Osimhen is elite?? Despite being outscored in by far his best goal scoring season by someone who clearly isn't elite.
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I said he is in the argument, so now your happy to use figures from different leagues... I never compared different leagues for that reason, you wanted me to use same leagues for comparing goals scored did you not?? thats double staqndards.
the facts are the facts in the year in question the players I mentioned were voted for by their peers who are far more credible than you or I had Ronaldo, Messi, Griezmann, Suarez, Neymar, Vardy etc.. as better than Aub.
Iv never changed the parameters for elite... Iv said to be elite you need to be considered the best and Aub was never in that argument at any point in his career.
posted on 12/1/24
"Firstly Osimhen is elite IMO."
"so now your happy to use figures from different leagues..."
Huh? Different leagues? So how are you comparing Messi, Ronaldo to Auba at Arsenal??
My argument was if the OP considers RvP elite then Auba has to be as well. You brought other leagues into it.
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Iv said to be elite you need to be considered the best
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So only one elite player. Yet earlier you said, in answer to if Haaland was the only elite striker around "well the literal meaning of elite says that there has to be"
posted on 12/1/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 34 seconds ago
"Firstly Osimhen is elite IMO."
"so now your happy to use figures from different leagues..."
Huh? Different leagues? So how are you comparing Messi, Ronaldo to Auba at Arsenal??
My argument was if the OP considers RvP elite then Auba has to be as well. You brought other leagues into it.
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Iv said to be elite you need to be considered the best
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So only one elite player. Yet earlier you said, in answer to if Haaland was the only elite striker around "well the literal meaning of elite says that there has to be"
----------------------------------------------------------------------that depends, if you break down who the best is then they are elite as thats the meaning of the word.
You can have elite playes in specific positions also.
but like I said people far more qualified and respected than us two already gave their opinion and in their opinion he was never in the discussion against the likes of Ronaldo and Messi. It was already decided, and the decision was he wasnt elite.
posted on 12/1/24
DJ is definition of a pain in asss
posted on 12/1/24
whodumbtit back to his very best on this one. Impressive wummery