https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/13075492/ref-watch-was-man-utds-casemiro-lucky-to-escape-a-second-yellow-card-against-luton-town
I cant watch this guy without cringing, just listen to him justify Casemeiro escaping 2nd yellow cause it took 4 fouls to give him the first one. The Phillips ones mentioned and hes like oh its refs interpretation isnt it, no its consistency .
Then listen to his brain stop working when Warnock questions his reasoning and the prem refs reasoning on the newcastle penalty .
Even the presenter makes more sense than the people making these rules for football ffs its madness.
ref watch
posted on 19/2/24
comment by Brian Gittins (U1449)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Brian Gittins (U1449)
posted 47 seconds ago
Did he mention the yellow for Mainoo for winning the ball
Can’t remember who it was on MOTD2, may even have been match commentator who said “you can’t slide in from that angle to win the ball”
What angle was he supposed to take?, that’s the way he was facing, it was a great tackle but as ever nowadays, if your opponent ends up on the deck it’s somehow a foul
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i watched the replay just to make sure i dont think hes fully in control or has fully won the ball before he inevitably fouls the luton player. Felt the ref got it right real time and replay didnt change my opinion on that.
Challenges like that are dangerous even when it looks clean and you come out with the ball, justt go reward Elliott breaking his ankle for that. Looked a honest fair challenge but ultimately dangerous and most the time fromt behind like that you're gonna take something of the player before you fully win the ball.
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It wasn’t from behind
He never wrapped his leg round the Luton player to win the ball, he got there first and the Luton player went over his trailing leg then got straight back up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py-KhUlDs_4
replays show otherwise, the initial contant might be the back/side of the lutons left leg but mainos follow through right leg hits the back of the luton players right leg possibly both.
As proved with the elliott broken ankle this can be extremely dangerous even if you win the ball first or w.e, hence the justification of yellow card or in the leeds players case an eventual ref.
posted on 19/2/24
Yeah, that is a clear foul and yellow seems to match the offence. As soon as he jumps in from behind like that he risks a yellow.
posted on 19/2/24
fouls from behind were outlawed many many years ago.
it's amazing how many people confuse wrapping a leg round and a tackle genuinely from the side.
if the opponent cannot see then you have come from behind like a wrong un.
simple enough. it's almost as long a rule as the back pass ffs.
casemior was a clearly yellow all day and just let off so Luton can't afford any bad decisions like that and their hopes of a point or more at home went up in smoke there from one ref call.
casemiro was off at ht as tin hat at least spotted the ref would have him off with one more foul.
Luton only have themselves to blame I suppose as they didn't roll about screaming. is that what refs require?
posted on 19/2/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Yeah, that is a clear foul and yellow seems to match the offence. As soon as he jumps in from behind like that he risks a yellow.
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and for good reason imo, this is one theyve got the laws correct. IDK maybe you have to lose one of your own to a nasty injury before you understand/accept why that the law atm?
posted on 19/2/24
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Yeah, that is a clear foul and yellow seems to match the offence. As soon as he jumps in from behind like that he risks a yellow.
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and for good reason imo, this is one theyve got the laws correct. IDK maybe you have to lose one of your own to a nasty injury before you understand/accept why that the law atm?
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Players can suffer a nasty injury from the most innocuous challenges, I remember Valencia breaking his ankle v Tangers in the CL, it’s just bad luck, Holgates challenge on Mitoma however I’d say was dangerous, Mainoo just made a great challenge and the ref made a bad call
posted on 19/2/24
Casemiro should have seen red. No grumbles from me.
How you lot have the bare faced cheek to moan about this though with some of the absolutey ridiculous decisions you've had to your way of late I will never know. 😂
posted on 19/2/24
In my opinion red cards should only ever be for serious foul play. Having games ruined for nothing tackles is pretty pathetic.
posted on 19/2/24
VAR really failed to do its job in the penalty areas on at least three separate occasions this weekend.
Robbo into Brentford forward (Toney?), heavy shove right into the middle of the back.
Spurs defender on Wolves forward, clear as day stamp on trailing foot.
Chelsea defender persustently grabbing and tugging Ruben Dias from behind to prevent him getting up gor a header. For some reason, MotD only had eyes for the potential handballs.
The first two didn't really have any impact on the outcome, but the last could've potentially been two more points for City.
Regardless of who those decisions went for or against, it just doesn't make sense that one week (or minute) they're calling trivial stuff back to get the ref to re-officiate, and the next it seems that nothing short of cold-blooded murder qualifies as "clear and obvious"
posted on 20/2/24
I think if someone is not willing to do the job paid for they should be taken off air.
Gallagher is not there to be PGMOL spokesperson. He is not there to defend people he didn't probably even ever ref with.
He's there to give perspective as a former professional ref on the decision making process and be a subject matter expert.
the waffle and excuses he makes up on a weekly basis are in fact showing exactly the level of ref expertise. they guess and make stuff up to justify themselves.
posted on 20/2/24
The victims seriously complaining about ref's
such a weird bunch