New Old Trafford

This is decent.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-stadium-pictures-ai-32260902.amp

In terms of stadium design, Arsenal were one of the first big clubs in recent times to go modern and theirs is a bowl. As a bit of a pioneer, it reflected more the need to get numbers in and good viewing in a constrained space. The Allianz followed suit

If you look at Atletico's stadium, the Metropolitano, finished 2017/18, that too was more of a focus on cost effective delivery of increased capacity. I went to the UCL final there. It's not very accessible, there's plenty of space around the ground but its pretty empty, internally its pretty basic...but it cost £300m.

City and West Hams are, of course, just adapted athletics grounds so the design was somewhat out of their hands.

Spurs led the way really in developing a more futuristic stadium that enhanced all aspects of a stadium and made it genuinely multi-use. It is not a bowl but at the same time it has had to make the most efficient layout to achieve 2 key criteria of being close to the pitch and delivering capacity. So while it losses some of the distinctiveness of individual stands in a traditional stadium, it has had to.

What is also key about modern stadiums is the concourse levels. These are now more focussed on delivering space and eating and drinking opportunities. As a result these stadiums have a massive footprint. Spurs matchday revenue used to be circa £2m a game. Now they make £1m a game just on food and drink and about £6m a game altogether.

To achieve all these things in a traditional individual stands, square to the pitch configuration while also hitting 100k capacity would be almost impossible. The stands would be phenomenally large, sat at the back you'd be in a different postcode and the creation of the circulation/eating/drinking space around the ground would make the footprint similarly vast.

Looking at the space available around OT, it is not limitless, there will have to be efficient layout and a bowl type approach is the most efficient way of doing this. IMO it will be very difficult to achieve the capacity talked about while also creating a more traditional layout and appearance.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
In terms of stadium design, Arsenal were one of the first big clubs in recent times to go modern and theirs is a bowl. As a bit of a pioneer, it reflected more the need to get numbers in and good viewing in a constrained space. The Allianz followed suit

If you look at Atletico's stadium, the Metropolitano, finished 2017/18, that too was more of a focus on cost effective delivery of increased capacity. I went to the UCL final there. It's not very accessible, there's plenty of space around the ground but its pretty empty, internally its pretty basic...but it cost £300m.

City and West Hams are, of course, just adapted athletics grounds so the design was somewhat out of their hands.

Spurs led the way really in developing a more futuristic stadium that enhanced all aspects of a stadium and made it genuinely multi-use. It is not a bowl but at the same time it has had to make the most efficient layout to achieve 2 key criteria of being close to the pitch and delivering capacity. So while it losses some of the distinctiveness of individual stands in a traditional stadium, it has had to.

What is also key about modern stadiums is the concourse levels. These are now more focussed on delivering space and eating and drinking opportunities. As a result these stadiums have a massive footprint. Spurs matchday revenue used to be circa £2m a game. Now they make £1m a game just on food and drink and about £6m a game altogether.

To achieve all these things in a traditional individual stands, square to the pitch configuration while also hitting 100k capacity would be almost impossible. The stands would be phenomenally large, sat at the back you'd be in a different postcode and the creation of the circulation/eating/drinking space around the ground would make the footprint similarly vast.

Looking at the space available around OT, it is not limitless, there will have to be efficient layout and a bowl type approach is the most efficient way of doing this. IMO it will be very difficult to achieve the capacity talked about while also creating a more traditional layout and appearance.
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there's a metro station literally right outside the Metropolitano

comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
In terms of stadium design, Arsenal were one of the first big clubs in recent times to go modern and theirs is a bowl. As a bit of a pioneer, it reflected more the need to get numbers in and good viewing in a constrained space. The Allianz followed suit

If you look at Atletico's stadium, the Metropolitano, finished 2017/18, that too was more of a focus on cost effective delivery of increased capacity. I went to the UCL final there. It's not very accessible, there's plenty of space around the ground but its pretty empty, internally its pretty basic...but it cost £300m.

City and West Hams are, of course, just adapted athletics grounds so the design was somewhat out of their hands.

Spurs led the way really in developing a more futuristic stadium that enhanced all aspects of a stadium and made it genuinely multi-use. It is not a bowl but at the same time it has had to make the most efficient layout to achieve 2 key criteria of being close to the pitch and delivering capacity. So while it losses some of the distinctiveness of individual stands in a traditional stadium, it has had to.

What is also key about modern stadiums is the concourse levels. These are now more focussed on delivering space and eating and drinking opportunities. As a result these stadiums have a massive footprint. Spurs matchday revenue used to be circa £2m a game. Now they make £1m a game just on food and drink and about £6m a game altogether.

To achieve all these things in a traditional individual stands, square to the pitch configuration while also hitting 100k capacity would be almost impossible. The stands would be phenomenally large, sat at the back you'd be in a different postcode and the creation of the circulation/eating/drinking space around the ground would make the footprint similarly vast.

Looking at the space available around OT, it is not limitless, there will have to be efficient layout and a bowl type approach is the most efficient way of doing this. IMO it will be very difficult to achieve the capacity talked about while also creating a more traditional layout and appearance.
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there's a metro station literally right outside the Metropolitano
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70k fans. 1 metro station You have to get the metro out there if coming from the centre but it was chaotic - that said i think that different sets of fans were directed different ways. We approached from the north and the nearest metro was about 1.5 miles walk

It will be 2030 before a ball is kicked, but I love the ambition, good times ahead

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
how did the other thread get derailed?
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Wondering the same

I'm excited to see the plans. No doubt there will be plenty of nods towards the old stadium, whilst making it a world class stadium.

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
how did the other thread get derailed?
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Wondering the same
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Barry is on it pretending to be a United fan again.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
how did the other thread get derailed?
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Wondering the same
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Barry is on it pretending to be a United fan again.
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Barry couldn't derail his own wardrobe. Guys harmless and funny.

I was wondering how that thread got derailed too

Barry couldn't derail his own wardrobe. Guys harmless and funny.

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Barry used to be funny. He has long since run out of material.