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Kompany

Just seen this clip of him in training, who the fack does he think he is speaking to players like that when he’s achieved absolutely zero as a manager?

No wonder Burnley got relegated when you’ve got a diiickhead like that for a boss. Can’t wait to see what the likes of Muller would make of it

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comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 12/8/24

I don't really see too much wrong with the video to be honest. Perhaps he went a touch far, but maybe he is making a concerted effort to instill some discipline in a squad that has a few slackers? Difficult for us to know what he is up against.

posted on 12/8/24

Aside from anything else, it looks like an ineffective coaching tool. He's not frightening his players, not motivating them nor building any goodwill. What's the point apart from blowing off some personal steam?

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 12/8/24

comment by Filip Jorgensen = Season Saved (U6489)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Aside from anything else, it looks like an ineffective coaching tool. He's not frightening his players, not motivating them nor building any goodwill. What's the point apart from blowing off some personal steam?
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It's worse, he's demonstrating that he's under pressure and stressed but we all know for a fact that the players will sit, eyes glazed, thinking GTF get it over with so I can go home.

He was a player once he should know. Worse, he did his MBA and should have learnt criticise in private, praise in public.

Everyone responds better to +ve methods. Sure, there can be a harsh message underlining how to do better. However, you can't take that episode in isolation. I'd put more store in how is his overall methodology & style than just one outburst which is great for the cameras.

There are still some 'old school' managers out there but they are a dying breed.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 12/8/24

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 19 minutes ago
Seems like player-power has been an issue over recent seasons and maybe Kompany's bosses have encouraged him to confront that. His Burnley side played great football in the Championship and the squad wasn't good enough to stay in the PL without playing the kind of super-negative football that wouldn't do Kompany's CV any good. (McKenna faces a similar predicament at Ipswich this season: do you try to play sophisticated, ambitious football that your squad can't sustain against PL opposition, or do you go ultra-pragmatic to try to scrape survival - the kind of football that top clubs aren't looking for in the coaches they recruit?) Kompany's probably a pretty good manager.
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Yet other clubs do find a way to get up, stay up and play pretty attractive styles.
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Generally those are clubs with better resources than Burnley: whether budgetary or the competitive edge of a top class backroom operation (like Brighton and Brentford).
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Precisely - it can be done! Those latter two I was primarily thinking but also Southampton albeit they take the occasional dip.

posted on 12/8/24

It doesn't come across as great but he could know that this is the best way to motivate that particular player.

posted on 12/8/24

comment by Filip Jorgensen = Season Saved (U6489)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
Aside from anything else, it looks like an ineffective coaching tool. He's not frightening his players, not motivating them nor building any goodwill. What's the point apart from blowing off some personal steam?
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his methods won them the league

posted on 12/8/24

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 19 minutes ago
Seems like player-power has been an issue over recent seasons and maybe Kompany's bosses have encouraged him to confront that. His Burnley side played great football in the Championship and the squad wasn't good enough to stay in the PL without playing the kind of super-negative football that wouldn't do Kompany's CV any good. (McKenna faces a similar predicament at Ipswich this season: do you try to play sophisticated, ambitious football that your squad can't sustain against PL opposition, or do you go ultra-pragmatic to try to scrape survival - the kind of football that top clubs aren't looking for in the coaches they recruit?) Kompany's probably a pretty good manager.
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Yet other clubs do find a way to get up, stay up and play pretty attractive styles.
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Generally those are clubs with better resources than Burnley: whether budgetary or the competitive edge of a top class backroom operation (like Brighton and Brentford).
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Precisely - it can be done! Those latter two I was primarily thinking but also Southampton albeit they take the occasional dip.
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My point is it takes more than a great manager to accomplish this, and I don't think Burnley had the resources to cement themselves in the way Brighton (with multiple different managers) etc have.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 12/8/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Filip Jorgensen = Season Saved (U6489)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
Aside from anything else, it looks like an ineffective coaching tool. He's not frightening his players, not motivating them nor building any goodwill. What's the point apart from blowing off some personal steam?
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his methods won them the league
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A league not the league

posted on 12/8/24

He’s the manager, he’s the one in charge and it’s up to him how he chooses to manage his players. He’s a highly respected player if not a manager (yet) and player power has clearly been an issue at the club for a while so it’s understandable him wanting to make them see who’s boss. His time at Burnley doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough but it is also a big risk by Bayern because equally he hasn’t proven he can take such a big job.

posted on 12/8/24

Kompany is quite right to blow his top if a player is moaning, he’s the gaffer not the player, you can’t have players ruling the club, Unfortunately it does happen at times.

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