"You wanna communicate something big boy?"

It will end in tears at Bayern, far too many egos there, he'll get eaten up alive if things don't go well.

This is probably the dumbest article on this site, and Vengeance's comment goes some way towards explaining why.

By the OPs logic he should be a complete p**** and let the big egos to walk all over him - like they were all great successes last season under a CL winner.

It also won them the championship.

Thats not that extreme in comparison to some of the things that happen at clubs.

Seems like player-power has been an issue over recent seasons and maybe Kompany's bosses have encouraged him to confront that. His Burnley side played great football in the Championship and the squad wasn't good enough to stay in the PL without playing the kind of super-negative football that wouldn't do Kompany's CV any good. (McKenna faces a similar predicament at Ipswich this season: do you try to play sophisticated, ambitious football that your squad can't sustain against PL opposition, or do you go ultra-pragmatic to try to scrape survival - the kind of football that top clubs aren't looking for in the coaches they recruit?) Kompany's probably a pretty good manager.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Seems like player-power has been an issue over recent seasons and maybe Kompany's bosses have encouraged him to confront that. His Burnley side played great football in the Championship and the squad wasn't good enough to stay in the PL without playing the kind of super-negative football that wouldn't do Kompany's CV any good. (McKenna faces a similar predicament at Ipswich this season: do you try to play sophisticated, ambitious football that your squad can't sustain against PL opposition, or do you go ultra-pragmatic to try to scrape survival - the kind of football that top clubs aren't looking for in the coaches they recruit?) Kompany's probably a pretty good manager.
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I agree he's probably been asked to deal with too much player power, but there are other more constructive ways. While managers shouting obscenities at players was probably more normal 30+ years ago, this generation of players- especially highly decorated/personally successful ones- will react badly to it. Breaking up player power can be done in drastic ways (identifying, and moving on, troublemakers), or less drastic ways (harnessing influence in positive ways through giving players development opportunities, breaking training into smaller groups, using negotiation, and other ways, too). Anyone can come in and shout obscenities, but top level modern coaches who achieve sustained success with elite teams do not do this. For example, Ancelotti is known for a calm approach and excellent man management and he has garnered success with multiple squads, managing some notoriously difficult personalities.

You can manage this way and be successful, but if you don’t achieve right away this style will see you booted quickly.

We don’t know what the Bayern dressing room is like, someone like Roy Keane would have loved this style, wouldn’t surprise me if Muller feels similar. If the key core of the side responds to it then the rest will have to fall in line.

Pep is well known for going off his nut and acting like this.....

Why do you really care? Managers have various techniques to get the best out of their players, this is one of his. If it fails, it doesn't affect any of us.

Any excuse to post this John Sitton classic, has anyone brought their dinner?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XVj45yN72uU

Just sometimes, some footballers who think they are better than they are, need a good talking to by their manger like this.

I hate these kind of TV programes. Whats said in the changing rooms and on the training pitch should stay there. I think some football fans who have never played proper organised football would be shocked by some of the confrontations between players and staff in stressful times.

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 10 seconds ago
Any excuse to post this John Sitton classic, has anyone brought their dinner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVj45yN72uU
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this being a classic example

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 19 minutes ago
Seems like player-power has been an issue over recent seasons and maybe Kompany's bosses have encouraged him to confront that. His Burnley side played great football in the Championship and the squad wasn't good enough to stay in the PL without playing the kind of super-negative football that wouldn't do Kompany's CV any good. (McKenna faces a similar predicament at Ipswich this season: do you try to play sophisticated, ambitious football that your squad can't sustain against PL opposition, or do you go ultra-pragmatic to try to scrape survival - the kind of football that top clubs aren't looking for in the coaches they recruit?) Kompany's probably a pretty good manager.
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Yet other clubs do find a way to get up, stay up and play pretty attractive styles.

Always though that Kompany was a bit of a sacrificial part at Bayern

The manager market in the summer was very busy and not many stand out candidates - Utd stuck with ETH, Slot is a bit of a risk, Flick has already come and gone from Munich, Chelsea got a championship yes man, Klopp has ruled himself out for 12 months and Alonso stayed put.

Kompany could be a huge success as his reputation is high for a guy who hasnt achieved a great deal at a high level. If he comes in and ruffles a few feathers, forces a few to leave, may be he's doing the dirty work for the next guy and he is easily and cheaply cast aside in 12 months when the decks have been cleared for new big name coach.

and while the Sitton one has been posted, good time to enjoy the Mike Bassett half time teamtalk again....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQtWVcFpvHg&t=88s

Football innit. If Bayern do well he'll be a genius, if they don't he'll get the sack. He made mistakes at Burnley - for example sticking with Trafford too long - but keeping a newly promoted club up these days seems a tall order for anyone.

comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 20 minutes ago
Football innit. If Bayern do well he'll be a genius, if they don't he'll get the sack. He made mistakes at Burnley - for example sticking with Trafford too long - but keeping a newly promoted club up these days seems a tall order for anyone.
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To be fair, he tried to keep Burnley playing good football but they had inferior players - not a lot he could do. If he had gone full Pulis then would Bayern take him on? Probably not

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 19 minutes ago
Seems like player-power has been an issue over recent seasons and maybe Kompany's bosses have encouraged him to confront that. His Burnley side played great football in the Championship and the squad wasn't good enough to stay in the PL without playing the kind of super-negative football that wouldn't do Kompany's CV any good. (McKenna faces a similar predicament at Ipswich this season: do you try to play sophisticated, ambitious football that your squad can't sustain against PL opposition, or do you go ultra-pragmatic to try to scrape survival - the kind of football that top clubs aren't looking for in the coaches they recruit?) Kompany's probably a pretty good manager.
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Yet other clubs do find a way to get up, stay up and play pretty attractive styles.
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Generally those are clubs with better resources than Burnley: whether budgetary or the competitive edge of a top class backroom operation (like Brighton and Brentford).

"You're not gonna get the ball by asking nicely."

Finally I know why I never made it as a footballer.

Not sure what the outrage is here. Sulking, overpaid millionaire footballer put in his place by his manager.

That'd happen at any top level club. You can't let players take the p*ss and bring down the standards with negativity.

I side with Kompany on this.

Now move on.

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 20 minutes ago
Football innit. If Bayern do well he'll be a genius, if they don't he'll get the sack. He made mistakes at Burnley - for example sticking with Trafford too long - but keeping a newly promoted club up these days seems a tall order for anyone.
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To be fair, he tried to keep Burnley playing good football but they had inferior players - not a lot he could do. If he had gone full Pulis then would Bayern take him on? Probably not
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I think Bayern were influenced by Alonso’s success at Leverkusen. There just aren’t many obvious choices among experienced managers and tbf however little experience Vinny has its a lot more than Alonso had when appointed.

Take down this rubbish. This is why this world has gone bloody soft. This is elite level sports not strictly come dancing. Getting a bolloc*king is part and parcel of football at any bloody level

If players are moaning they deserve a shouting at imo

I don't really see too much wrong with the video to be honest. Perhaps he went a touch far, but maybe he is making a concerted effort to instill some discipline in a squad that has a few slackers? Difficult for us to know what he is up against.

Aside from anything else, it looks like an ineffective coaching tool. He's not frightening his players, not motivating them nor building any goodwill. What's the point apart from blowing off some personal steam?