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Some perspective on our situation.

We've now sold around 115/120 mill of players this window.

People need to stop going on about fair play and PSR, we are nowhere near any trouble for these.

Profits on Gray are huge, Summerville as well and lets face it, 12 months ago, no one saw Rutter as a 40 mil player.

There are no excuses now, we have money to spend, but as per usual its all a bit too late and I fear we'll get a Piroe type signing just to try and placate fans.

Ive said elsewhere, it feels just like last season, losing a game changer in Sinisterra and here we are again.

I really dont see how this is building last season. I would if we'd bought in 3/4 quality players, but we have Bogle, Rothwell and cairns, I genuinely do not see how we're going to achieve promotion this season.

Whether the 49ers involved in contracts or not, as owners (and part owners for some considerable amount of time) their ownership is a tale of ineptitude and lack of experience of English football....but isnt that what Kinnear was supposed to bring?

It genuinely feels that everything we ever had from Bielsa, has now gone. All teh culture that he built, the connection with the fans, the improvement in players, the performances....we have been left with a shadow of our former selves.

I think Farke has been completely shafted....2 years in a row. I was confident that given the tools he could get us up, but not if we've sold foundations from under him.

If I was a season ticket holder I would be fuming.

comment by RobLUFC (U5692)

posted on 16/8/24

You often hear the phrase 'we' got good money for him. Good for for who though? Sports group Investors or the fans?

posted on 16/8/24

comment by RobLUFC (U5692)
posted 13 minutes ago
You often hear the phrase 'we' got good money for him. Good for for who though? Sports group Investors or the fans?
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posted on 16/8/24

There's nothing wrong with Piroe. I'd say a bigger problem is the deadwood we have which no other club will go near.

posted on 16/8/24

Piroe looked pretty decent as a stiker in the play offs v Norwich. Was awful in the final though. For me hes simply not a number 10. A number 10 needs to be involved in the game setting up and creating chances like Pablo used to do. He might play as a second stiker if we played 2 up top but hes not a traditional number 10 i dont care what anyone says.

posted on 16/8/24

comment by Outwood White (U9610)
posted 32 minutes ago
Piroe looked pretty decent as a stiker in the play offs v Norwich. Was awful in the final though. For me hes simply not a number 10. A number 10 needs to be involved in the game setting up and creating chances like Pablo used to do. He might play as a second stiker if we played 2 up top but hes not a traditional number 10 i dont care what anyone says.
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Piroe & Rutter developed a good understanding very early last season & for me that should have remained the basis for our central attacking play.

But Farke introduced our infamous number 9 & Piroe consequently seemed to lose confidence & form.

I don't care what anyone says, if you score around 20 goals in this league in consecutive seasons, as Piroe did for a poor Swansea, you have something about you - whether you're deemed a striker, number 10 or whatever. The lad can finish & should be around the opposition penalty area as often as possible. He's not suited to playing as deep as Farke played him last season, he lost the ball a lot as a consequence. Crazily at times he was even receiving the ball from the centre-backs. He comes alive in the box & that's where his focus should be no matter what his position is deemed to be.

I think Piroe would thrive from a change in coach. And that may well be just around the corner.

posted on 16/8/24

Just to add I agree Piroe was awful in the play-off final. But Southampton went to 3 at the back & Piroe was woefully outnumbered every time he went near the ball. Farke failed to address this & was tactically outdone for the 3rd time by the same opposition.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 16/8/24

I think Piroe is a decent player.

BUT, how are we creating chances for him now?

Where will he play.

And really, it felt like he was only bought to shut fans up towards end of window as fans were restless.

posted on 16/8/24

New signings are clearly needed but in the meantime Farke has to come up with ideas to get the best out of what we have.

At the moment I'd play Piroe as a 2nd striker with Joseph with Gelhardt coming off the bench & Bamford sat in the stands.

We signed Piroe because he'd scored 40 in 2 seasons at this level. He wasn't a punt, he's a goalscorer.

posted on 16/8/24

Got to agree, think Joel is a good player, just not used correctly by Farke or doesn't fit the system - whatever that is now?

He was a goal machine for Swansea and you can guarantee, if he leaves, he will be again.

At times his partnership with Rutter looked very promising.

comment by RobLUFC (U5692)

posted on 16/8/24

Get the guy in the areas where he is most likely to prosper as often as you can. Many of his goal are where someone squares it and he is running on to it and hits low finishes or it drops for him and he gets a shot away. Not a coach but just from watching him they are his strengths and pressing, playing from deeper etc weaknesses. He could be a key player for us if used in the right way and in right circumstances and bag c15-20 goals.

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