Good hi,
It is the aged old question that we have been trying to answer for decades. Who would win out of an English PL XI and a Saudi Pro League XI?
For the purposes of the debate, it is English players playing in the PL. So no Haaland etc.
Who do you think would win out of the below teams, if they were coached by their managers for an extended period? It is also a cup final level match so players aren't just playing in their sandals like they do in Saudi. Proper up for it. Also forget that the England team is basically the England team who have been playing together for years. The Saudi team have been too, for these purposes.
----------------Pickford---------------
Walker------Stones---Guehi---Shaw
-------------Rice--------Mainoo
----Saka---------Foden----------Palmer
------------------Watkins------------------
Manager: Edward Howe
Saudi League XI
---------------------Mendy-----------
---------Laporte----Demiral---Koulibaly
-----------Kante-------Neves------
Mahrez---------M-Savic-------------Mane
---------------Mitrovic--Toney
Bench: Ronaldo, Benzema, Neymar etc.
Manager: Jorge Jesus/Ronaldo demanding to get on
Feel free to change about the formations or players. It's more about the concept.
Secondary question. That Saudi XI, where would they place in the PL?
Fond regards
English PL XI vs Saudi XI
posted 1 week, 4 days ago
Richarlison, Nkunku, Nunez
posted 1 week, 4 days ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 24 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see if it can progress beyond that though as the China thing died pretty quickly. Could it become normalised for players to go there and still continue a normal international career etc? If it keeps going and they keep injecting all this money into it then it will keep growing.
I reckon in just a couple of years the top teams will have the same calibre of player as say Chelsea and Spurs. Doesn't mean they'll be great teams.
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It might also depend to an extent of how much of a success the revamped FIFA Club World Cup is, and how much of an impact the Saudi clubs manage to make there.
It could provide a huge platform for non-European clubs, and if someone like Al-Hilal were capable of going far, they'd be sure to capture the attention of many fans and footballers worldwide and raise the profile of the Saudi league even further.
posted 1 week, 4 days ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 24 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see if it can progress beyond that though as the China thing died pretty quickly. Could it become normalised for players to go there and still continue a normal international career etc? If it keeps going and they keep injecting all this money into it then it will keep growing.
I reckon in just a couple of years the top teams will have the same calibre of player as say Chelsea and Spurs. Doesn't mean they'll be great teams.
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It might also depend to an extent of how much of a success the revamped FIFA Club World Cup is, and how much of an impact the Saudi clubs manage to make there.
It could provide a huge platform for non-European clubs, and if someone like Al-Hilal were capable of going far, they'd be sure to capture the attention of many fans and footballers worldwide and raise the profile of the Saudi league even further.
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Yeah it's sad. I want the opposite. Proper big South American clubs with mental fans doing well. Managing to hold on to their talented, world class young players.
But they are prime candidates for Saudi. Young Brazilians and the like.
posted 1 week, 4 days ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
Richarlison, Nkunku, Nunez
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Antony, Fati, Paqueta
posted 1 week, 4 days ago
England barely beat any sides in the euros, despite being stronger than the Saudi 11, they'd find a way to not win it.
posted 1 week, 3 days ago
Seems pointless to ask first to compare a limited English only xi to an all star xi from Saudi money league and then turn around and ask where thst all star xi might finish in the full prem.
It's not apples and apples comparison.
England would probably beat that all star team for the record as England are a team that's played before and would have a certain team.work.
If you gave pep guardiola that xi from Saudi maybe it'd get top 6 but probably not as half of them are retirees
Again just a pointless kind of question
posted 1 week, 3 days ago
That's fair, Barry. You should have named an all-Saudi team.
People would probably scoff at such a comparison, but Saudi Arabia have, in all fairness, beaten a World Champion side in a major tournament more recently than England.
posted 1 week, 3 days ago
It was more to determine the standard of players that went to Saudi compared to the English players playing in the PL.
If it gets to the point where the English players playing in the PL aren't as good as the foreign players playing in Saudi then that's one hell of a fall from grace for the PL. Or a jump from ungrace for Saudi.
posted 1 week, 3 days ago
i thin Barry has unequivercabubbly proove his point.
goodnite
posted 1 week, 3 days ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 8 hours, 51 minutes ago
It was more to determine the standard of players that went to Saudi compared to the English players playing in the PL.
If it gets to the point where the English players playing in the PL aren't as good as the foreign players playing in Saudi then that's one hell of a fall from grace for the PL. Or a jump from ungrace for Saudi.
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To follow that thread through, I’d assume you feel similar about Spanish players in Spain, Italian players in Italy and French players in France?