Daniel Levy when asked;

When you look at the list of winners of domestic competitions over the last 10 years you can see that it is dominated by Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Arsenal and Liverpool.

Leicester managed to buck the trend in 2016 by winning the PL (which was miraculous) and they also managed to win a league cup in 2021. But on the whole it's been the same five teams.

Premier league
2013-14 Man City
2014-15 Chelsea
2015-16 Leicester
2016-17 Chelsea
2017-18 Man City
2018-19 Man City
2019-20 Liverpool
2020-21 Man City
2021-22 Man City
2022-23 Man City
2023-24 Man city

FA Cup
2013-14 Arsenal
2014-15 Arsenal
2015-16 Man United
2016-17 Arsenal
2017-18 Chelsea
2018-19 Man City
2019-20 Arsenal
2020-21 Leicester
2021-22 Liverpool
2022-23 Man City
2023-24 Man United

League Cup
2013-14 Man City
2014-15 Chelsea
2015-16 Man City
2016-17 Man United
2017-18 Man City
2018-19 Man City
2019-20 Man City
2020-21 Man City
2021-22 Liverpool
2022-23 Man United
2023-24 Liverpool

Hopefully as FFP/PSR takes more hold on the game it will open up opportunities for the likes of Spurs and others. But it really is the same clubs overall that are winning things and it's easy to think the Spurs are the only club that hasn't won anything.

With the recruitment of Ange last season the club are trying something different. As Ange has said, if you keep doing things the same way you get the same results.

I for one am positive that Ange will win a trophy for our club, but that will be dependent on him continuing to be backed by the club and for the fans to not throw their dummies out of the pram after every set back.

Despite all the doom and gloom that has hung over us these last few weeks, we're only actually 4 points behind Arsenal in the PL and we're still in the League cup!

https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/tottenham-takevoer-news-mehrdad-ghodoussi-26773273

In other news.

comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 12 minutes ago
When you look at the list of winners of domestic competitions over the last 10 years you can see that it is dominated by Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Arsenal and Liverpool.

Leicester managed to buck the trend in 2016 by winning the PL (which was miraculous) and they also managed to win a league cup in 2021. But on the whole it's been the same five teams.

Premier league
2013-14 Man City
2014-15 Chelsea
2015-16 Leicester
2016-17 Chelsea
2017-18 Man City
2018-19 Man City
2019-20 Liverpool
2020-21 Man City
2021-22 Man City
2022-23 Man City
2023-24 Man city

FA Cup
2013-14 Arsenal
2014-15 Arsenal
2015-16 Man United
2016-17 Arsenal
2017-18 Chelsea
2018-19 Man City
2019-20 Arsenal
2020-21 Leicester
2021-22 Liverpool
2022-23 Man City
2023-24 Man United

League Cup
2013-14 Man City
2014-15 Chelsea
2015-16 Man City
2016-17 Man United
2017-18 Man City
2018-19 Man City
2019-20 Man City
2020-21 Man City
2021-22 Liverpool
2022-23 Man United
2023-24 Liverpool

Hopefully as FFP/PSR takes more hold on the game it will open up opportunities for the likes of Spurs and others. But it really is the same clubs overall that are winning things and it's easy to think the Spurs are the only club that hasn't won anything.

With the recruitment of Ange last season the club are trying something different. As Ange has said, if you keep doing things the same way you get the same results.

I for one am positive that Ange will win a trophy for our club, but that will be dependent on him continuing to be backed by the club and for the fans to not throw their dummies out of the pram after every set back.

Despite all the doom and gloom that has hung over us these last few weeks, we're only actually 4 points behind Arsenal in the PL and we're still in the League cup!

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Unfortunately levy is happy to charge the same and more for tickets as those five teams that win stuff but is unable or unwilling to provide the same on the pitch

In his tenure, arsenal have won the double, gone through an entire cycle and rebuild (winning stuff as they did it) and are now challenging to win the title again

Absolutely no reason why spurs shouldn’t be challenging.

Levy has created a culture of ‘excuse’ whilst profiteering from a fanbase he constantly dangles carrots in front
of.

Ex players and managers alike have expressed that there is no necessity to win like there is at other clubs.

Levy has made spurs a huge brand, but a small time football club.

comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 14 minutes ago
When you look at the list of winners of domestic competitions over the last 10 years you can see that it is dominated by Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Arsenal and Liverpool.

Leicester managed to buck the trend in 2016 by winning the PL (which was miraculous) and they also managed to win a league cup in 2021. But on the whole it's been the same five teams.

Premier league
2013-14 Man City
2014-15 Chelsea
2015-16 Leicester
2016-17 Chelsea
2017-18 Man City
2018-19 Man City
2019-20 Liverpool
2020-21 Man City
2021-22 Man City
2022-23 Man City
2023-24 Man city

FA Cup
2013-14 Arsenal
2014-15 Arsenal
2015-16 Man United
2016-17 Arsenal
2017-18 Chelsea
2018-19 Man City
2019-20 Arsenal
2020-21 Leicester
2021-22 Liverpool
2022-23 Man City
2023-24 Man United

League Cup
2013-14 Man City
2014-15 Chelsea
2015-16 Man City
2016-17 Man United
2017-18 Man City
2018-19 Man City
2019-20 Man City
2020-21 Man City
2021-22 Liverpool
2022-23 Man United
2023-24 Liverpool

Hopefully as FFP/PSR takes more hold on the game it will open up opportunities for the likes of Spurs and others. But it really is the same clubs overall that are winning things and it's easy to think the Spurs are the only club that hasn't won anything.

With the recruitment of Ange last season the club are trying something different. As Ange has said, if you keep doing things the same way you get the same results.

I for one am positive that Ange will win a trophy for our club, but that will be dependent on him continuing to be backed by the club and for the fans to not throw their dummies out of the pram after every set back.

Despite all the doom and gloom that has hung over us these last few weeks, we're only actually 4 points behind Arsenal in the PL and we're still in the League cup!

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Shows the ultimate underachievement of the club that we have occupied many of the same spaces as those teams in the league and not converted to any success. Had our share of being above Liverpool, United, Arsenal and Chelsea. Maybe not so much City.

Fair play to Leicester though, they've essentially put their name up there where ours should be. Even Arsenal and their 4 cups, in this period of time that should have been similar for us. We've had the squads and momentum at times to do it.

1. Multiplying our investment at least 50 fold
2. Turning Spurs into an extremely successful business
3. Creating vast scope to increase our investment further

comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 7 minutes ago
1. Multiplying our investment at least 50 fold
2. Turning Spurs into an extremely successful business
3. Creating vast scope to increase the value of our investment further

1.made money
2. Then fleeced the fans for more money, some fans actually love me
3. Then found other ways to fleece them for more money, whilst having to deliver nothing in the pitch.

comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
1.made money
2. Then fleeced the fans for more money, some fans actually love me
3. Then found other ways to fleece them for more money, whilst having to deliver nothing in the pitch.
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Value of the investment (THFC) has little to do with what they can then invest in the team.

Revenue is king in respect of how much we can spend in the market.

Look at Newcastle. State owned with unlimited pockets which could & would easily afford a fantasy league approach to building their club and team....but instead they have to sell players, make free transfers and limit spending (£65m this summer, net they made a profit of £5m). Thats because they made £250m last time around and Spurs much greater spending off the back of £550m revenues.

Fans need to decide where they want to be...an Everton who over stretched and are now doomed, a Newcastle who despite their vast stadium have matchday revenues of less than £40m compared to ours of £118m.

Fans like you conflate our lack of success with a lack of investment and that is not supported by the facts.

This club has been put in to an extremely strong financial position, delivering revenues that have now begun to make a massive impact on our ability to invest in the squad.

Its chicken and egg with regards to success. Look at the list above of teams who have dominated the trophies over 10 years. Oil doped Chelsea and City, super-clubs Liverpool & United, whose financial power has always been at the very top. Arsenal on the fringes of that off the back of Wenger's legacy.

We are now in a period where we should be reaping the rewards from some tough years where we have been massively financially inferior, or impacted by our stadium build.

I said on another thread that this is the period to judge the ownership. They have done almost all they can in terms of making us financially competitive. We are bringing in the money. It's now how it is spent and the decisions they make on the playing side with the objective of making us a success. That is now behind us. We are positioned to grow and succeed but that will take a bit of time - i hate referring to it but look closely at what Arsenal have done. The time they took to completely evolve their squad, their patterns of spending, the steady progress season on season.

At least let this play out because the old "in it for profit' narrative is not only inaccurate but is also a tired old argument. Get behind the club. Hold them to account for their footballing decisions but stop looking backwards, constantly backwards at stuff which now has no impact on where we are going as a club.

‘Fans like you conflate our lack of success with a lack of investment and that is not supported by the facts.’


Of course it’s supported by facts. We were closest under Poch. Levy decided not to spend for two years.

We were close under rednapp. Levy gave him Nelson and Saha on the cheap

That happened. We could’ve won things with a couple of bigger signings. Levy didn’t spend

Instead he sacked Poch and rednapp, hiring Jose and avb instead

Much cheaper to change the manager

Lack of investment at the right time.

Dele Ali recently said, even when spurs were really good and close, all the players thought they were a couple of signings short

But ok, let’s see how we get on now we have the stadium etc etc. how many more years of football failure will you need to see what’s really going on?