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Cole Palmer best in the league?

Is this the case? Certainly looks a strong contender with the only competition being Haaland at the moment?

KDB and Rodri with differing levels of injuries, or at least in the case of KDB i just seem to see him less and less.

Everyone knows the numbers, more goal involvements than haaland since his chelsea debut which is incredible in itself.

But the incredible thing about palmer is the assists he doesn't get, the workrate, the dropping deep and starting moves.

It's a short time period but I can only think of gerrard and hazard coming as close to carrying a team to victories near single handedly.

Even this season chelsea haven't been fantastic, but with our forwards we are putting teams to the sword and palmer is a massive part of that.

So, is the best in the league? and If not who is?

posted on 22/10/24

Palmer hasn’t been exactly ripping up trees this season though and we won’t the league without him last year.

He wants to go to United and there’s no way City would sell him directly.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 22/10/24

We won the league without KDB the year after selling him, did it justify it in hindsight? Nope.

He's still clearly our best & most influential offensive player & we're doing alright at the moment + now he's getting into the England team. Reasonable to assume his value will only increase & if we sold in the near future we'd have no problem getting a nine figure sum.

It was bad business for City. You can give reasons for why it happened & they'll be valid, we had them with KDB & Salah, but a spade is a spade.

posted on 22/10/24

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 11 seconds ago
We won the league without KDB the year after selling him, did it justify it in hindsight? Nope.

He's still clearly our best & most influential offensive player & we're doing alright at the moment + now he's getting into the England team. Reasonable to assume his value will only increase & if we sold in the near future we'd have no problem getting a nine figure sum.

It was bad business for City. You can give reasons for why it happened & they'll be valid, we had them with KDB & Salah, but a spade is a spade.
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Who is paying 9 figures for players these days? No one is buying anyone for big money.

posted on 22/10/24

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 35 minutes ago
We won the league without KDB the year after selling him, did it justify it in hindsight? Nope.

He's still clearly our best & most influential offensive player & we're doing alright at the moment + now he's getting into the England team. Reasonable to assume his value will only increase & if we sold in the near future we'd have no problem getting a nine figure sum.

It was bad business for City. You can give reasons for why it happened & they'll be valid, we had them with KDB & Salah, but a spade is a spade.
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The Mirror described KdB as the '£50m Flop' when City bought him and praised Mourinho for his business acumen for getting rid of a player who was quite happy where he was.

Palmer is totally different, asked for a transfer and got one immediately, thus freeing up a slot for someone who actually wanted to play for the club.

posted on 22/10/24

Selling him was fine but £40m is about a quarter of what he would go for this Summer if United get purchased by an oil state

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 22/10/24

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 35 minutes ago
We won the league without KDB the year after selling him, did it justify it in hindsight? Nope.

He's still clearly our best & most influential offensive player & we're doing alright at the moment + now he's getting into the England team. Reasonable to assume his value will only increase & if we sold in the near future we'd have no problem getting a nine figure sum.

It was bad business for City. You can give reasons for why it happened & they'll be valid, we had them with KDB & Salah, but a spade is a spade.
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The Mirror described KdB as the '£50m Flop' when City bought him and praised Mourinho for his business acumen for getting rid of a player who was quite happy where he was.

Palmer is totally different, asked for a transfer and got one immediately, thus freeing up a slot for someone who actually wanted to play for the club.
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Inaccurate information. De Bryune wanted out for first team football just like Palmer, and just like Palmer there was a pro's & con's argument for it - very talented player but possibly asking for too much too soon in a position stacked with too much talent (in our case both Mata & Oscar were ahead of him).

The two key difference, to me, are as follows : (1) Pep gave Palmer a few more opportunities than Mourinho gave KDB, and (2) KDB closed off the loan option, he imposed play me or sell me, where in Palmer's case Pep drew that line in the sand.

If KDB was happy to stay, Mourinho was happy to keep him. Salah was the one he actively pushed out.

posted on 22/10/24

KdB tells it differently.

posted on 22/10/24

If he was such a bargain at £40m, why was no one else interested?

He was desperate to get away so it wouldn't have taken much persuasion to get him to move anywhere.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 22/10/24

Link? I remember him talking about it awhile ago & saying he was happy UNTIL it was clear Mourinho wasn't gunna play him. And Mourinho's take has always been he liked the player (refused to send him on loan when KDB was up for it - mistake!) but he wanted out.

He was very highly thought of at Chelsea. de Visser, Roman's right hand & talent spotter, called him the best teenage player he'd ever seen - the guy who discovered Ronaldo (Brazilian) and Romario said that. Nobody at the club was gunna push him out.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 22/10/24

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 20 minutes ago

If he was such a bargain at £40m, why was no one else interested?

He was desperate to get away so it wouldn't have taken much persuasion to get him to move anywhere.
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Not the point I'm arguing. I could make good arguments now that at the time the sells of KDB & Salah made some sense & the fees were alright.

The issue is hindsight is proven them completely wrong, just like Palmer atm.

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