How Much Sh*t will You lose...

I might have a grumble because naturally it's Werner and he's rubbish, but before the game is not the time to lose your sh*t, that would be after the game if we lose/don't win it and Werner fails to have an impact.

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 15 minutes ago
I wouldn’t lose any sh*t at all as it’s the right choice.

As great as Moore looks he is going only 17 and we shouldn’t rush him into anything. Similarly Odebert is likely unable to play a full 90.

I think the smart option would be to have Werner on for the first 45 and then Moore/Odebert for the remaining game.

It’s all about physical readiness.
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Wouldn’t the right choice be to play the in form player? I mean call me crazy……

I think Moore will be Plan B on Sunday 😂

bored as a Fudge lost his sh*t before the game, imagine after

I don't see how he can start Werner. He looks completely gone to me. His head isn't right to start a Prem game and there's only so many chances he can miss before Ange takes him out of the firing line.

Moore is a kid, sure, but like others have said, so was Rooney, Giggs, Sharpe and many others. Playing Thursday/Sunday once isn't going to hurt him. He's young. His powers of recovery will be so much better than the older lads. I wouldn't mind betting he'd play today if he could.

“We are talking to Timo constantly,” the former Celtic boss said ahead of Sunday's trip to Selhurst Park.

“We understand he is lacking some confidence at the moment and everyone has been working hard at that, but with all these things, ultimately it’s incumbent on him to use as much support he’s got around here to get himself out of it.

“Our role in that is to provide that support whether that’s internally or externally, whatever he needs.

“Obviously it’s then up to him to try to use that to get him back to the levels where he wants to be and where he can contribute for us.

“Like I said, with all the players what we try to do is provide an environment where should they need help, it’s readily available.

“We do need output and that’s the key part. Obviously when Mikey was on with Brennan (Johnson), we were a threat on both wings and we were getting outcomes from it.

“We didn’t score but three or four really good chances came from it and we need that to happen with the way we play.

“Whilst the general play is important and Timo has done well, we still need more in that front third and we got it in the second half.”

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 49 minutes ago
“We are talking to Timo constantly,” the former Celtic boss said ahead of Sunday's trip to Selhurst Park.

“We understand he is lacking some confidence at the moment and everyone has been working hard at that, but with all these things, ultimately it’s incumbent on him to use as much support he’s got around here to get himself out of it.

“Our role in that is to provide that support whether that’s internally or externally, whatever he needs.

“Obviously it’s then up to him to try to use that to get him back to the levels where he wants to be and where he can contribute for us.

“Like I said, with all the players what we try to do is provide an environment where should they need help, it’s readily available.

“We do need output and that’s the key part. Obviously when Mikey was on with Brennan (Johnson), we were a threat on both wings and we were getting outcomes from it.

“We didn’t score but three or four really good chances came from it and we need that to happen with the way we play.

“Whilst the general play is important and Timo has done well, we still need more in that front third and we got it in the second half.”
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He is not our player, any time and resource used to build him up at the expense of one of our players is a complete waste.

I always thought he would be a good late sub against tired legs when we signed him. I was even wrong about that.

I don't agree that it's a waste - if it's a few hours a week working on finishing with one of the coaches to get him scoring that's fine. But from the sound of those quotes Ange is running out of patience.

It's tough cos you don't want to heap too much on Moore at his age while not starting a player who's in bad form. Richarlison or Odobert to start would be the pragmatic thing to do

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 15 minutes ago
I wouldn’t lose any sh*t at all as it’s the right choice.

As great as Moore looks he is going only 17 and we shouldn’t rush him into anything. Similarly Odebert is likely unable to play a full 90.

I think the smart option would be to have Werner on for the first 45 and then Moore/Odebert for the remaining game.

It’s all about physical readiness.
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Wouldn’t the right choice be to play the in form player? I mean call me crazy……
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Well, crazy. Which player is the in form one?

Moore played 88mins on Thursday. Ange made 9 changes from the West Ham game.

Can see him making at least 8 changes for Palace. He might even make 9 again with only Madders and Udogie surviving Thursday.

And if Moore doesn't start tomorrow, he can start on Wed against City. Plenty of games. No need to burn him out. Stay humble.