Over the last 9 games we have won 7 and lost 2, as follows:
18/09/2024 Coventry Won
21/09/2024 Brentford Won
26/09/2024 Qarabag Won
29/09/2024 Man U Won
03/10/2024 Ferencvaros Won
06/10/2024 Brighton Lost
19/10/2024 West Ham Won
24/10/2024 AZ Won
27/10/2024 Crystal Palace Lost
I know that some don't want to let facts get in the way of the anti Ange narrative, but my word is it reasonable to call for the manager's head after every set back? Do some fans actually think that we should be winning every single game? If so, they're deluded.
A defeat hurts me as much as any fan, but I think the reaction has been extreme. I've read comments like "our PL season is over"!! FFS, we're just 5 points off 4th with only 9 games played.
Those that are calling for Ange's head should give your heads a wobble
The Last 9 Games
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I think you have to put into context the quality of the opposition. Form at home is fine, but the away form is shocking. That said I was one that thought Ange was out of his deth, but he has won me around, so I won`t be calling for his head again anytime soon. That said football is a results game, and if results don`t improve by the end of the season, then I reckon he will be gone.
His best hope now is to take the cups seriously. No more mass rotation in the cups. Go strong from hereonin and see where it takes the club.
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I hear what you say regarding the "quality of the opposition". But you also say football is a "results game".
I just don't see how it's reasonable for some fans to throw their dummies out after 7 wins from the last 9 games. Every team (and that includes City) are capable of being beaten by any other team in the league. So it's deluded to think that we're gonna win every so called "easy" game.
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Problem is City would not lose at Brighton after being two goals up, and I doubt they would put in a performance like Spurs did at Palace. They would have also won at both Leicester and Newcastle if they dominated both games like Spurs did.
I suspect City would have come away with 10 points from Leicester, Newcastle, Brighton and Palace. Compared to Spurs coming away with just one point.
Therein lies the difference.
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But we're not City are we? That's an unfair comparison. They're the best side the Prem has seen so no team have come close to them yet.
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For what it is worth Fridge, Manchester United are the best team the Prem has seen, with their thirteen titles. City have a long way to go to come even close. And lets be fair City have purchased their trophies with unlimited spending power. At least United brought through a generational bunch of players through their youth team.
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That's not the point is it?! You used City as a framework to criticise why we hadn't won a series of games but my point is that, right now, City are the best team in world football so we can't compare ourselves to them. Whether they're the best team in Prem history or whether any of it is legitimate is a completely different debate.
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Well they are not the best team in world football. I think Real Madrid won the CL last season. They also gave won like 14 European Cups to Man Cities one. I don't see City winning the CL this season either.
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I think you have to put into context the quality of the opposition. Form at home is fine, but the away form is shocking. That said I was one that thought Ange was out of his deth, but he has won me around, so I won`t be calling for his head again anytime soon. That said football is a results game, and if results don`t improve by the end of the season, then I reckon he will be gone.
His best hope now is to take the cups seriously. No more mass rotation in the cups. Go strong from hereonin and see where it takes the club.
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I hear what you say regarding the "quality of the opposition". But you also say football is a "results game".
I just don't see how it's reasonable for some fans to throw their dummies out after 7 wins from the last 9 games. Every team (and that includes City) are capable of being beaten by any other team in the league. So it's deluded to think that we're gonna win every so called "easy" game.
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Problem is City would not lose at Brighton after being two goals up, and I doubt they would put in a performance like Spurs did at Palace. They would have also won at both Leicester and Newcastle if they dominated both games like Spurs did.
I suspect City would have come away with 10 points from Leicester, Newcastle, Brighton and Palace. Compared to Spurs coming away with just one point.
Therein lies the difference.
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But we're not City are we? That's an unfair comparison. They're the best side the Prem has seen so no team have come close to them yet.
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For what it is worth Fridge, Manchester United are the best team the Prem has seen, with their thirteen titles. City have a long way to go to come even close. And lets be fair City have purchased their trophies with unlimited spending power. At least United brought through a generational bunch of players through their youth team.
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That's not the point is it?! You used City as a framework to criticise why we hadn't won a series of games but my point is that, right now, City are the best team in world football so we can't compare ourselves to them. Whether they're the best team in Prem history or whether any of it is legitimate is a completely different debate.
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It was you that said they were the best team in Prrm history, not me. So what is there to debate?
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The non-league games are all pretty much Championship standard if we're honest. That's like Ange's bread and butter. The last 20 league games we have lost half. Spurs managers have been sacked with those sort of stats before. Nuno was sacked with 5 losses in 10. Mourinho had 9 losses in 20 when he was sacked. Poch had a period of 10 losses in 20 when he was near the end.
I'm not saying he should be sacked but giving a comparison. He will clearly be lucky if he gets to survive a lot longer than previous managers.
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I'm hoping that Levy has learned his lesson in that twisting doesn't always work out.
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I said I was on the brink of wanting him out yesterday. Maybe that was the emotion talking but realistically there has to be some form of progress being shown in the results we're seeing. After City in the league, we have Fulham, Bournemouth, Chelsea at home, and Southampton, before playing Liverpool. Now providing he doesn't get sacked before then, that's another chance to go on a decent run of results, as he should. If we go and thrash Fulham only to lose to Bournemouth that will seal the deal for me.
Improvement and progress should be coming from not just one or 2 wins here and there followed by a loss, but a good unbeaten run and a winning mentality being built. Villa, Forest and Brighton are managing that this season, so why can't we?
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Brighton drew at home with Wolves at the weekend after being 2-0 up. Forest hve won one home game all season I think, and yes Villa have won some matches, but drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, and they are hardly like 20 points clear of Spurs. None of those teams are on long unbeaten winning runs. They are having much the same season as Spurs, win one, lose one, draw one.
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Brighton and Forest have been on 5 game unbeaten runs, Villa currently on 7. Our best is 2. We've lost 4 times and they have lost once. I don't care who they may have drawn against, they are showing they are less easy to beat than we are.
Since our first 10 games we've had a longer run of losses in the league than we have any run of wins under Ange. Just think about that.
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Spurs were on a long unbeaten run at the start of last season. Means nothing. It's where you end up in May. I still fancy Spurs above Villa come May. But like I said we shall see. Nothing is decided in October. Plenty of teams have better 2nd half of the seasons than 1st halves.
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The non-league games are all pretty much Championship standard if we're honest. That's like Ange's bread and butter. The last 20 league games we have lost half. Spurs managers have been sacked with those sort of stats before. Nuno was sacked with 5 losses in 10. Mourinho had 9 losses in 20 when he was sacked. Poch had a period of 10 losses in 20 when he was near the end.
I'm not saying he should be sacked but giving a comparison. He will clearly be lucky if he gets to survive a lot longer than previous managers.
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I'm hoping that Levy has learned his lesson in that twisting doesn't always work out.
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I said I was on the brink of wanting him out yesterday. Maybe that was the emotion talking but realistically there has to be some form of progress being shown in the results we're seeing. After City in the league, we have Fulham, Bournemouth, Chelsea at home, and Southampton, before playing Liverpool. Now providing he doesn't get sacked before then, that's another chance to go on a decent run of results, as he should. If we go and thrash Fulham only to lose to Bournemouth that will seal the deal for me.
Improvement and progress should be coming from not just one or 2 wins here and there followed by a loss, but a good unbeaten run and a winning mentality being built. Villa, Forest and Brighton are managing that this season, so why can't we?
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Brighton drew at home with Wolves at the weekend after being 2-0 up. Forest hve won one home game all season I think, and yes Villa have won some matches, but drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, and they are hardly like 20 points clear of Spurs. None of those teams are on long unbeaten winning runs. They are having much the same season as Spurs, win one, lose one, draw one.
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Brighton and Forest have been on 5 game unbeaten runs, Villa currently on 7. Our best is 2. We've lost 4 times and they have lost once. I don't care who they may have drawn against, they are showing they are less easy to beat than we are.
Since our first 10 games we've had a longer run of losses in the league than we have any run of wins under Ange. Just think about that.
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Spurs were on a long unbeaten run at the start of last season. Means nothing. It's where you end up in May. I still fancy Spurs above Villa come May. But like I said we shall see. Nothing is decided in October. Plenty of teams have better 2nd half of the seasons than 1st halves.
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We did go on a good unbeaten run at the start and it's that that allowed us to be still in the hunt for top 4 by the end and had us finish as high as 5th. This season we've started poorly so we're going to need another run like that, otherwise I would forget hoping we're going to finish above Villa. Not going to do that if every other game is a loss.
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The non-league games are all pretty much Championship standard if we're honest. That's like Ange's bread and butter. The last 20 league games we have lost half. Spurs managers have been sacked with those sort of stats before. Nuno was sacked with 5 losses in 10. Mourinho had 9 losses in 20 when he was sacked. Poch had a period of 10 losses in 20 when he was near the end.
I'm not saying he should be sacked but giving a comparison. He will clearly be lucky if he gets to survive a lot longer than previous managers.
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I'm hoping that Levy has learned his lesson in that twisting doesn't always work out.
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I said I was on the brink of wanting him out yesterday. Maybe that was the emotion talking but realistically there has to be some form of progress being shown in the results we're seeing. After City in the league, we have Fulham, Bournemouth, Chelsea at home, and Southampton, before playing Liverpool. Now providing he doesn't get sacked before then, that's another chance to go on a decent run of results, as he should. If we go and thrash Fulham only to lose to Bournemouth that will seal the deal for me.
Improvement and progress should be coming from not just one or 2 wins here and there followed by a loss, but a good unbeaten run and a winning mentality being built. Villa, Forest and Brighton are managing that this season, so why can't we?
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Brighton drew at home with Wolves at the weekend after being 2-0 up. Forest hve won one home game all season I think, and yes Villa have won some matches, but drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, and they are hardly like 20 points clear of Spurs. None of those teams are on long unbeaten winning runs. They are having much the same season as Spurs, win one, lose one, draw one.
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Brighton and Forest have been on 5 game unbeaten runs, Villa currently on 7. Our best is 2. We've lost 4 times and they have lost once. I don't care who they may have drawn against, they are showing they are less easy to beat than we are.
Since our first 10 games we've had a longer run of losses in the league than we have any run of wins under Ange. Just think about that.
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Spurs were on a long unbeaten run at the start of last season. Means nothing. It's where you end up in May. I still fancy Spurs above Villa come May. But like I said we shall see. Nothing is decided in October. Plenty of teams have better 2nd half of the seasons than 1st halves.
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We did go on a good unbeaten run at the start and it's that that allowed us to be still in the hunt for top 4 by the end and had us finish as high as 5th. This season we've started poorly so we're going to need another run like that, otherwise I would forget hoping we're going to finish above Villa. Not going to do that if every other game is a loss.
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So if Spurs beat Villa at the weekend, they will be precisely two points behind everyone's current flavour of the month team, Aston Villa, with 29 matches still to play. Hardly an insurmountable task to overtake them.
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The non-league games are all pretty much Championship standard if we're honest. That's like Ange's bread and butter. The last 20 league games we have lost half. Spurs managers have been sacked with those sort of stats before. Nuno was sacked with 5 losses in 10. Mourinho had 9 losses in 20 when he was sacked. Poch had a period of 10 losses in 20 when he was near the end.
I'm not saying he should be sacked but giving a comparison. He will clearly be lucky if he gets to survive a lot longer than previous managers.
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I'm hoping that Levy has learned his lesson in that twisting doesn't always work out.
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I said I was on the brink of wanting him out yesterday. Maybe that was the emotion talking but realistically there has to be some form of progress being shown in the results we're seeing. After City in the league, we have Fulham, Bournemouth, Chelsea at home, and Southampton, before playing Liverpool. Now providing he doesn't get sacked before then, that's another chance to go on a decent run of results, as he should. If we go and thrash Fulham only to lose to Bournemouth that will seal the deal for me.
Improvement and progress should be coming from not just one or 2 wins here and there followed by a loss, but a good unbeaten run and a winning mentality being built. Villa, Forest and Brighton are managing that this season, so why can't we?
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Brighton drew at home with Wolves at the weekend after being 2-0 up. Forest hve won one home game all season I think, and yes Villa have won some matches, but drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, and they are hardly like 20 points clear of Spurs. None of those teams are on long unbeaten winning runs. They are having much the same season as Spurs, win one, lose one, draw one.
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Brighton and Forest have been on 5 game unbeaten runs, Villa currently on 7. Our best is 2. We've lost 4 times and they have lost once. I don't care who they may have drawn against, they are showing they are less easy to beat than we are.
Since our first 10 games we've had a longer run of losses in the league than we have any run of wins under Ange. Just think about that.
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Spurs were on a long unbeaten run at the start of last season. Means nothing. It's where you end up in May. I still fancy Spurs above Villa come May. But like I said we shall see. Nothing is decided in October. Plenty of teams have better 2nd half of the seasons than 1st halves.
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We did go on a good unbeaten run at the start and it's that that allowed us to be still in the hunt for top 4 by the end and had us finish as high as 5th. This season we've started poorly so we're going to need another run like that, otherwise I would forget hoping we're going to finish above Villa. Not going to do that if every other game is a loss.
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So if Spurs beat Villa at the weekend, they will be precisely two points behind everyone's current flavour of the month team, Aston Villa, with 29 matches still to play. Hardly an insurmountable task to overtake them.
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100% correct BUT how did the last 29 games of last season go .... Think its fair to say Villa are on an uptrend.... Spurs have been moving in the wrong direction Since Nov of last year
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The non-league games are all pretty much Championship standard if we're honest. That's like Ange's bread and butter. The last 20 league games we have lost half. Spurs managers have been sacked with those sort of stats before. Nuno was sacked with 5 losses in 10. Mourinho had 9 losses in 20 when he was sacked. Poch had a period of 10 losses in 20 when he was near the end.
I'm not saying he should be sacked but giving a comparison. He will clearly be lucky if he gets to survive a lot longer than previous managers.
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I'm hoping that Levy has learned his lesson in that twisting doesn't always work out.
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I said I was on the brink of wanting him out yesterday. Maybe that was the emotion talking but realistically there has to be some form of progress being shown in the results we're seeing. After City in the league, we have Fulham, Bournemouth, Chelsea at home, and Southampton, before playing Liverpool. Now providing he doesn't get sacked before then, that's another chance to go on a decent run of results, as he should. If we go and thrash Fulham only to lose to Bournemouth that will seal the deal for me.
Improvement and progress should be coming from not just one or 2 wins here and there followed by a loss, but a good unbeaten run and a winning mentality being built. Villa, Forest and Brighton are managing that this season, so why can't we?
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Brighton drew at home with Wolves at the weekend after being 2-0 up. Forest hve won one home game all season I think, and yes Villa have won some matches, but drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, and they are hardly like 20 points clear of Spurs. None of those teams are on long unbeaten winning runs. They are having much the same season as Spurs, win one, lose one, draw one.
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Brighton and Forest have been on 5 game unbeaten runs, Villa currently on 7. Our best is 2. We've lost 4 times and they have lost once. I don't care who they may have drawn against, they are showing they are less easy to beat than we are.
Since our first 10 games we've had a longer run of losses in the league than we have any run of wins under Ange. Just think about that.
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Spurs were on a long unbeaten run at the start of last season. Means nothing. It's where you end up in May. I still fancy Spurs above Villa come May. But like I said we shall see. Nothing is decided in October. Plenty of teams have better 2nd half of the seasons than 1st halves.
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We did go on a good unbeaten run at the start and it's that that allowed us to be still in the hunt for top 4 by the end and had us finish as high as 5th. This season we've started poorly so we're going to need another run like that, otherwise I would forget hoping we're going to finish above Villa. Not going to do that if every other game is a loss.
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So if Spurs beat Villa at the weekend, they will be precisely two points behind everyone's current flavour of the month team, Aston Villa, with 29 matches still to play. Hardly an insurmountable task to overtake them.
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100% correct BUT how did the last 29 games of last season go .... Think its fair to say Villa are on an uptrend.... Spurs have been moving in the wrong direction Since Nov of last year
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Teams are going to be close to one another at this stage. Easy to say we could overtake Villa now if you forget the form we're in. Not going to get far with the rate we keep losing.
Only time I'm going to be convinced we are heading in the right direction is if we make ourselves harder to beat, reduce the number of losses and go on a good run of league results.
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The non-league games are all pretty much Championship standard if we're honest. That's like Ange's bread and butter. The last 20 league games we have lost half. Spurs managers have been sacked with those sort of stats before. Nuno was sacked with 5 losses in 10. Mourinho had 9 losses in 20 when he was sacked. Poch had a period of 10 losses in 20 when he was near the end.
I'm not saying he should be sacked but giving a comparison. He will clearly be lucky if he gets to survive a lot longer than previous managers.
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I'm hoping that Levy has learned his lesson in that twisting doesn't always work out.
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I said I was on the brink of wanting him out yesterday. Maybe that was the emotion talking but realistically there has to be some form of progress being shown in the results we're seeing. After City in the league, we have Fulham, Bournemouth, Chelsea at home, and Southampton, before playing Liverpool. Now providing he doesn't get sacked before then, that's another chance to go on a decent run of results, as he should. If we go and thrash Fulham only to lose to Bournemouth that will seal the deal for me.
Improvement and progress should be coming from not just one or 2 wins here and there followed by a loss, but a good unbeaten run and a winning mentality being built. Villa, Forest and Brighton are managing that this season, so why can't we?
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Brighton drew at home with Wolves at the weekend after being 2-0 up. Forest hve won one home game all season I think, and yes Villa have won some matches, but drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, and they are hardly like 20 points clear of Spurs. None of those teams are on long unbeaten winning runs. They are having much the same season as Spurs, win one, lose one, draw one.
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Brighton and Forest have been on 5 game unbeaten runs, Villa currently on 7. Our best is 2. We've lost 4 times and they have lost once. I don't care who they may have drawn against, they are showing they are less easy to beat than we are.
Since our first 10 games we've had a longer run of losses in the league than we have any run of wins under Ange. Just think about that.
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Spurs were on a long unbeaten run at the start of last season. Means nothing. It's where you end up in May. I still fancy Spurs above Villa come May. But like I said we shall see. Nothing is decided in October. Plenty of teams have better 2nd half of the seasons than 1st halves.
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We did go on a good unbeaten run at the start and it's that that allowed us to be still in the hunt for top 4 by the end and had us finish as high as 5th. This season we've started poorly so we're going to need another run like that, otherwise I would forget hoping we're going to finish above Villa. Not going to do that if every other game is a loss.
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So if Spurs beat Villa at the weekend, they will be precisely two points behind everyone's current flavour of the month team, Aston Villa, with 29 matches still to play. Hardly an insurmountable task to overtake them.
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100% correct BUT how did the last 29 games of last season go .... Think its fair to say Villa are on an uptrend.... Spurs have been moving in the wrong direction Since Nov of last year
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Cannot really compare last season to this. For a start Spurs won at Old Trafford, where they drew last year. Beat West Ham at home where they lost last year. OK they lost at Palace, where they won last year. But two seasons never replicate each other.
Spurs may do the opposite of last season, and start badly but finish well. We won't know that until May though. No point in judging anything definitely in October with most of the season still to come.
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The non-league games are all pretty much Championship standard if we're honest. That's like Ange's bread and butter. The last 20 league games we have lost half. Spurs managers have been sacked with those sort of stats before. Nuno was sacked with 5 losses in 10. Mourinho had 9 losses in 20 when he was sacked. Poch had a period of 10 losses in 20 when he was near the end.
I'm not saying he should be sacked but giving a comparison. He will clearly be lucky if he gets to survive a lot longer than previous managers.
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I'm hoping that Levy has learned his lesson in that twisting doesn't always work out.
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I said I was on the brink of wanting him out yesterday. Maybe that was the emotion talking but realistically there has to be some form of progress being shown in the results we're seeing. After City in the league, we have Fulham, Bournemouth, Chelsea at home, and Southampton, before playing Liverpool. Now providing he doesn't get sacked before then, that's another chance to go on a decent run of results, as he should. If we go and thrash Fulham only to lose to Bournemouth that will seal the deal for me.
Improvement and progress should be coming from not just one or 2 wins here and there followed by a loss, but a good unbeaten run and a winning mentality being built. Villa, Forest and Brighton are managing that this season, so why can't we?
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Brighton drew at home with Wolves at the weekend after being 2-0 up. Forest hve won one home game all season I think, and yes Villa have won some matches, but drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, and they are hardly like 20 points clear of Spurs. None of those teams are on long unbeaten winning runs. They are having much the same season as Spurs, win one, lose one, draw one.
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Brighton and Forest have been on 5 game unbeaten runs, Villa currently on 7. Our best is 2. We've lost 4 times and they have lost once. I don't care who they may have drawn against, they are showing they are less easy to beat than we are.
Since our first 10 games we've had a longer run of losses in the league than we have any run of wins under Ange. Just think about that.
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Spurs were on a long unbeaten run at the start of last season. Means nothing. It's where you end up in May. I still fancy Spurs above Villa come May. But like I said we shall see. Nothing is decided in October. Plenty of teams have better 2nd half of the seasons than 1st halves.
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We did go on a good unbeaten run at the start and it's that that allowed us to be still in the hunt for top 4 by the end and had us finish as high as 5th. This season we've started poorly so we're going to need another run like that, otherwise I would forget hoping we're going to finish above Villa. Not going to do that if every other game is a loss.
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So if Spurs beat Villa at the weekend, they will be precisely two points behind everyone's current flavour of the month team, Aston Villa, with 29 matches still to play. Hardly an insurmountable task to overtake them.
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100% correct BUT how did the last 29 games of last season go .... Think its fair to say Villa are on an uptrend.... Spurs have been moving in the wrong direction Since Nov of last year
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Villa on an uptrend. Drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, four days later get knocked out the Carabou Cup at home to Crystal Palace. I would hate to think what a downtrend is if that is a supposed uptrend.
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The non-league games are all pretty much Championship standard if we're honest. That's like Ange's bread and butter. The last 20 league games we have lost half. Spurs managers have been sacked with those sort of stats before. Nuno was sacked with 5 losses in 10. Mourinho had 9 losses in 20 when he was sacked. Poch had a period of 10 losses in 20 when he was near the end.
I'm not saying he should be sacked but giving a comparison. He will clearly be lucky if he gets to survive a lot longer than previous managers.
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I'm hoping that Levy has learned his lesson in that twisting doesn't always work out.
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I said I was on the brink of wanting him out yesterday. Maybe that was the emotion talking but realistically there has to be some form of progress being shown in the results we're seeing. After City in the league, we have Fulham, Bournemouth, Chelsea at home, and Southampton, before playing Liverpool. Now providing he doesn't get sacked before then, that's another chance to go on a decent run of results, as he should. If we go and thrash Fulham only to lose to Bournemouth that will seal the deal for me.
Improvement and progress should be coming from not just one or 2 wins here and there followed by a loss, but a good unbeaten run and a winning mentality being built. Villa, Forest and Brighton are managing that this season, so why can't we?
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Brighton drew at home with Wolves at the weekend after being 2-0 up. Forest hve won one home game all season I think, and yes Villa have won some matches, but drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, and they are hardly like 20 points clear of Spurs. None of those teams are on long unbeaten winning runs. They are having much the same season as Spurs, win one, lose one, draw one.
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Brighton and Forest have been on 5 game unbeaten runs, Villa currently on 7. Our best is 2. We've lost 4 times and they have lost once. I don't care who they may have drawn against, they are showing they are less easy to beat than we are.
Since our first 10 games we've had a longer run of losses in the league than we have any run of wins under Ange. Just think about that.
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Spurs were on a long unbeaten run at the start of last season. Means nothing. It's where you end up in May. I still fancy Spurs above Villa come May. But like I said we shall see. Nothing is decided in October. Plenty of teams have better 2nd half of the seasons than 1st halves.
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We did go on a good unbeaten run at the start and it's that that allowed us to be still in the hunt for top 4 by the end and had us finish as high as 5th. This season we've started poorly so we're going to need another run like that, otherwise I would forget hoping we're going to finish above Villa. Not going to do that if every other game is a loss.
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So if Spurs beat Villa at the weekend, they will be precisely two points behind everyone's current flavour of the month team, Aston Villa, with 29 matches still to play. Hardly an insurmountable task to overtake them.
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100% correct BUT how did the last 29 games of last season go .... Think its fair to say Villa are on an uptrend.... Spurs have been moving in the wrong direction Since Nov of last year
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Villa on an uptrend. Drew at home to Bournemouth at the weekend, four days later get knocked out the Carabou Cup at home to Crystal Palace. I would hate to think what a downtrend is if that is a supposed uptrend.
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They are top 4 and currently top of the CL. Overall it's an uptrend, not just a couple of poor results.