Has Levein Paid The Leckie, Bill

"Development is not the SFA's business" OMG that comment is just unreal.

See my above post Arabian. The Dutch clubs Academies are in charge of development.

The fact Levein won nothing says it all.

He is tactically clueless and totally inept. We had such an easy group (to get second) with a great set of players.

We will never - sadly - qualify for ANY tournament whilst that fool is in charge.

It's not unreal Arabian. They can't influence much other than policy that clubs follow. Tell me how they can develop kids when they don't have them to coach?
Please explain?

As it stands - and always will be - it's clubs who coach kids for a few hours after school. I already explained how we can change it. I already explained what the Dutch and Spanish did so why am I wrong exactly?

Castle, all nations invest in the future of their game. Yes some clubs run acadamies but all Nations develop players through their national body. Do you think th FA just rely on th EPL clubs to bring through players? the FA have centres for excellence and development all over England and they produce quality players.


In Holland last year the Dutch FA spent the most it ever has on providing coaches and facilities to put into the clubs acadamies, so yes they work together, something people in this country sem incapable of.

If yo want to just throw insults at Levein, then that's ok. However the facts show your argument is completely flawed.

Arabian - you may have went backwards now but the season after he left you were better than when he was there, results showed this. Levein has got nothing to do with the development of the players he has at his disposal right now. If he's great at develpoing youngster then he should take a role within the SFA and plan how to make us better in future but the job of Scotland manager is to win the games that we need to qualify for 2012, not 2022.

But I honestly dont see how the Scotland manager, who picks, sees and trains already established players is able to drastically effect the future development of players coming through. And even if he does, he should be doing it while getting results. 6 goals in 6 games against pretty weak opposition is not good enough and the WC qualifying group is harder than this one was.

The facts don't show my argument is flawed. The FA schools of excellence does NOTHING. It's the clubs who coach the kids not the FA. The Fa get them a few times per year. Woopey doo.

Providing coaches I'm all for for schools etc. We need more of them.

The main difference is football academies the FACTS I'll give you two facts Spain and Holland, becuase it was the only thing these two changed.

Kids just need lots of time on the ball, yes with coaching.

How to fix scottish football -

1) Make all clubs in the SPL have to start a residential school for kids of 6+ where kids will do 3 hours work per day on 'educational' subjects and all the rest of the day is a football curriculum. (same as dance and drama schools. I posted this yesterday and someone did an article on it. The English are changing the law to allow them to do it from next season)

2) All the kids in this school will not be assigned a football position until they play for the first team. All kids will rotate positions.

4) Games will be played on smaller pitches until 13 years.

5) Summer football for kids.

6) SPl teams can put teams into the lower leagues if they wish.

Do all of the above and withing 20 years we will have world class players. After all it's what Spain did 20 years ago.

Levein employed a guy called Ian Cathro at United who previously had his own schools which were hugely popular and always booked out. This guy has a completely different ideology when it comes to training kids and one which this country has missed out on for years. It is based on continental ideas and the development of technical abiltiy from the youngest ages. The results at united have been fantastic with the young players and the chances are better players will come through at Scotland due to the larger groups these coaches are working with. This is how Levein is developing young players, through the implementation of a totally different system and one which is and will continue to produce a more technical level of young player.

Davie, United were very poor last season and if it weren't for Goodie bailing us out would have struggled big time. We were much better to watch under Levein and the spirit at the club was much better than it is now.

I agree we need to qualify ASAP, but what is the point in doing this now if we don't do it again for another 14 years. We must build an ethos that will continue to produce good players year after year and IMO this is the correct way to do it.

I understand what you are saying Castle, but all the funding, camps, schools and clubs which are provided for kids are done so by a nations governing body. The number of coaches employed by the SFA is huge and therefore development is very much their responsibility.


In the current climate where ALL clubs are skint, we can't ask them to shell out money on schools for kids and facilities for education. the SFA are the ones who must continue to examine thier own methods and coaching styles. This has started nearly 2 years ago now and there will be positive results.

I agree regarding the assigning of positions, however smaller pitches and summer football have been on the go for over 5 years now. The system of how we encourage football is what needs changing and a minority are trying to do this. They need to majority to support them.

"But I honestly dont see how the Scotland manager, who picks, sees and trains already established players is able to drastically effect the future development of players coming through."

by implementing an infrastructure that encourages development, and putting the right people in the right jobs, like Levein is doing.

"dundee utd fans back ex dundee utd manager shocker.

Up next, why turkeys dont vote for xmas"

I also fully supported McLeish and Smith, and Brown, and Vogts for the first few months.

Rangers fans distrust non-Rangers manager shocker.