levein hates celtic and rangers

leckie hates celtic and rangers

for the first time i can remember i agree with maryhill!!!

id like to see gordon strachen in charge of scotland or even walter smith back in charge

levein has no clue how to win games and scoring 9 goals in 8 games with teams like leich and lithuania in the group shows me he hasnt a clue how to set teams up to score goals

3 of our goals were against spain so that leaves 6 goals against the rest not good enough

Levein is doing ok. The players are on his side for a start.

Ishmael,

Define, how 1 point against the poorest Czech side in years os ok.

How scraping an injury time win at home to Litchenstein is ok.

How failiing to score against a toothless Lithuania is ok.

How the stubborn persistence with one man up front is ok.

How 9 goals in 8 games, given the quality of opposition mentioned above is ok.

How failing to win half your games in this group was ok.

the only improvement i can see is the margin by which we are failing to qualify, but we are STILL failing

Levein has the makings of a good squad of young players at his disposal. i fear he may ruin our chances of WC qualification.

i have been surprised at how little stick levein has taken off the press.

We would have qualified from that group no problem under eck or walter.

Levien is more like burley and vogts, without the media witchunt.

Ish - The players are on his side? How about the best striker we have? The players are hardly gonna come out and say they arent on his side, they wouldnt get in the team again.

It'l be an absolute joke if Levien keeps his job, but strangley enough I think he will. P!ss easy group thats ended in total failure. Just slighty beating a bunch of farmers twice, the 6-4-0 and not able to beat the Lithuianians away, more shouldve been taken off the Czechs too. This is the best Scotland side in ages playing at the highest level at their clubs we could ask for and he only manages 6 goals in 6 games against the poorer teams. Not good enough and he should be sacked so he can continue his management career in achieving SFA

Vogts would have got us through the group. Simply because he wouold have played with more than one striker.

celticdavie - couldnt agree more.

maryhill - you may have taken that to far mate

Ibrox,

Vogts got us to a play-off.

Re Vogts - He hada poorer pool of players to pick from, most of his squads were made up of spl and championship players, not EPL players (all be it mainly bottom half).

He became a victim of a media witchhunt, as did Burley, creating a situation where he was undermined, turned into a joke figure, and his position became untenable. Both their reins ended in farce, but maybe with some support it didn't need to be like that?

Levein seems to be getting cut some slack by his media lackeys.

true!

Levein is a didy.
Leckie, I wouldn't wipe ma rse with his articles.

Redtops are written for thick cants.

"We would have qualified from that group no problem under eck or walter."

Very true, and they both took the money and ran. Who would do a better job that the SFA could afford?

I think hes done OK.

the SFA have a very simple, plain choice.

Pay top dollar for a top manager and rip-up the way we run youth development in this country.

Or watch our game sink into a state from which it will never recover.

Summer football's the answer.

Maryhill, the way in which development is orchestrated has alraedy been overhauled since Levein got the job.

He implemented this at United 5 years ago and now we are starting to see the benefits, Russell, Allan, Watson, Dow, Armstrong et al are all products of this. There is no quick fix to the state our game was in 6-7 years ago, people need to realise this.

We are a quarter of the way down the right road and sacking Levein is not the answer. I don't always agree with his choices/tactics and yes he can be painfully defensive. However we need to give him one more campaign and see if we get through. If not then it is on his head.

BTW anyone who wants Strachan needs their head looked at. His recent record in football is embarassing and you are only as good as your last job. Actually on the whole his entire career is underwhelming. If Levein does not produce then we need to start thinking outside the box, but for now I am backing him to get it right.

Couldnt agre more arabian knight. The last thing we need is another change of manager.

Levien IMO seems to havent taken on the mantle to improve Scottish football from the bottom up. The coaching side seems to be a small part of the job as a whole for him.

To me he seems to be a very intelligent man with a vision that he wants to carry through for Scotland internationally. He has a free reign with the SFA and this is the only reason he would have took the job on.

Lets be honest he could be earning a hell of a lot more plying his trade in England and he would have got another chance down there no problem in IMO as united were doing pretty well under his leadership.

That's a very good measure of the man Wotsit. He wants to develop the game from grassroots in this country and has already done so much in this process.

That must have been a significant factor in him taking the job, as he seems to have the authority to get involved with all aspects of the Scottish game.

He is an intelligent man (Strachan is not), with a certainty of where he wants to take Scottish football and I think his philosophy is correct. Instant results are not possible when the game was in the mess it was. We needed to start from the bottom and only levein in recent times has done that, I look forward to seeing the results. He's got my backing for the next campaign.

dundee utd fans back ex dundee utd manager shocker.

Up next, why turkeys dont vote for xmas

Very good Elite. Unlike many people on here I could not give a toss about club loyalties when it comes to the national team.

My opinion is that the guy is trying to do something for football in this country which someone else should have done years ago. He has completely overhauled the way we are teaching our kids to play football and at United this has had great results. It will at Scotland too, whether he is still there or not.

I don't back him because he's ex- United, it's because in my opinion he is finally doing things others ignored, and Scottish fooball will be much improved for it.

To the Dundee United fans - Were you or were you not a better side after Levein left? You finished higher in the table and you won a trophy AFTER he left.

Now you may say he laid the foundations with a couple of fantastic 5th placed finishes but its not the Scotland managers job to develop future players from grassroots, its his job to pick the best players currently avaliable and get results now. He already cant pick from the best striker we have in Fletcher.

Is he responsible for the fact that he can almost pick a starting 11 from "the best league in the world"? No, got nothing to do with him. He's got the pick of the best group we've had in a while and he's blown it big time. We couldnt have asked for an easier group and he's shown time and time again that tactically he aint up to it. He even tried to defend his 4-6-0 and said it was the "future". If he's good at developing youngsters and making them into better players then the Scotland job is the last one he should have.

And Strachans career is underwhelming? Well what does that make Leveins considering he's achieved absolutely nothing as a manager?

He's is quite a young man he has taken the job on full-time and I can see he is deadly serious when it comes to the Scotland job and trying to improve from the bottom up.

I Agree that he has been given a break by the press that some before him never got but that may be because he has the energy and commitment to carry out his vision.

Some have taken the job on as a part-time stop gap and maybe the likes of Voigts and Burley were not given a chance by the press but Burley IMO only seen himself as a coach and Voigts possibly had a plan to try and improve things but Levein looks hungry to make some really positive changes.

I for one think he is the man to taker us forward and If that takes another qualifying campaign I say back him!