9 losses in 18 (the most for 16 years at this stage). Only Wolves and Saints have more losses.
21 L, 6 D, 19 W since last November 2023.
2 wins in 8 currently.
11th in the league (worst position for 16 years at this stage).
Most goals conceded at this stage for 17 years (equalled).
10 points from top 4.
Closer to the relegation zone than top 4.
Can't stay unbeaten for longer than 2 games. El Sackico Lopetuigi is on a 4 match unbeaten run.
Losses to Palace and Ipswich who hadn't won games until then and who have been near the bottom of the table all season.
Only wins lately to City and Saints, who are the 2 worst form teams in the league right now, other than Leicester, who we only drew to earlier in the season.
But it's ok cause we have injuries.
Our form
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
Just a reminder that lots of our fans want a manager back that had exactly the same record with Chelsea this time last year after spending over £300 million.
23 points from 18 games = Poch 23/24.
Be careful what you wish for.
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What about the second part of the season, Sandy?
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Well how do you know that the 2nd half of the season for Spurs is not going to be good.
Can only compare similar for things that have actually happened. Both first halves were exactly the same. No one knows how the 2nd half of this season pans out. Then we can compare.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
Just a reminder that lots of our fans want a manager back that had exactly the same record with Chelsea this time last year after spending over £300 million.
23 points from 18 games = Poch 23/24.
Be careful what you wish for.
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What about the second part of the season, Sandy?
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Well we haven't got to the 2nd part of this season. So prefer just to match up both managers 1st halves. Ange may yet still win a cup.
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I meant the second half of Chelsea’s season last year.
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What about it? Chelsea are playing in the Conference, when they spent to get CL.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
Out of interest when a club starts a complete rebuild how long do you expect to give said manager?
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He gets the first season then I think it's fair you start to see some progress in the second. We're halfway into the season and have not seen any and we weren't seeing it before all the injuries either. The form is the same as it was at the end of last season.
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Spurtle, just for the record how do you think any new manager is going to make the Spurs defence watertight when they come up against Newcastle, Liverpool and Arsenal in January given it will probably be a reserve team goalie, two out of form full backs and Gray and Dorrington as the CBs? Or am I missing something?
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They might not be able to turn a switch as soon as they come but better to start afresh with a manager you'd be more confident in than one who you're midway into a project with you are not. They could offer new ideas, a new voice, different tactics, different man management. Of course we want to try choosing one that will still want to play attractive football, just with better in game management and more flexibility.
What about a manager getting more against teams we should be able to get something out of? Cause we've struggled against those as well.
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Like United appointing Amoren then?
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
Out of interest when a club starts a complete rebuild how long do you expect to give said manager?
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He gets the first season then I think it's fair you start to see some progress in the second. We're halfway into the season and have not seen any and we weren't seeing it before all the injuries either. The form is the same as it was at the end of last season.
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Spurtle, just for the record how do you think any new manager is going to make the Spurs defence watertight when they come up against Newcastle, Liverpool and Arsenal in January given it will probably be a reserve team goalie, two out of form full backs and Gray and Dorrington as the CBs? Or am I missing something?
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They might not be able to turn a switch as soon as they come but better to start afresh with a manager you'd be more confident in than one who you're midway into a project with you are not. They could offer new ideas, a new voice, different tactics, different man management. Of course we want to try choosing one that will still want to play attractive football, just with better in game management and more flexibility.
What about a manager getting more against teams we should be able to get something out of? Cause we've struggled against those as well.
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Like United appointing Amoren then?
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Well there are no guarantees in appointing anyone are there? Not that Amorim should be written off or anything.
I just don't really get the sense in keeping someone around for the sake of it though when it isn't working. That's why you try and replace, to see if somebody can do better. The fact is he won't have done anything to warrant keeping around. If he had credit in the bank I'd understand it. And if, as some are suspecting, his training methods are actually causing more injuries then that's a pretty significant reason to get rid right now. How is that situation going to get any better?
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 3 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
Just a reminder that lots of our fans want a manager back that had exactly the same record with Chelsea this time last year after spending over £300 million.
23 points from 18 games = Poch 23/24.
Be careful what you wish for.
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What about the second part of the season, Sandy?
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Well we haven't got to the 2nd part of this season. So prefer just to match up both managers 1st halves. Ange may yet still win a cup.
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I meant the second half of Chelsea’s season last year.
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Yes they finished behind Spurs, who apparently had a shocking season. So I don't get your point?
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 5 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 59 minutes ago
Out of interest when a club starts a complete rebuild how long do you expect to give said manager?
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6 Windows.
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Why mate he has not developed a single player why would he need more windows?
Conte had 3 windows all together yet got us champions league football.
Poch never had us below fifth and semis champions league final
Jose got us to a final.
We have a league one manager and it is embarrasing.
posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago
Every manager needs time to implement their philosophy. At other clubs this could one or maybe two years. We are Tottenham. There is no overnight fix.
Patience.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 12 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 5 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 59 minutes ago
Out of interest when a club starts a complete rebuild how long do you expect to give said manager?
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6 Windows.
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Why mate he has not developed a single player why would he need more windows?
Conte had 3 windows all together yet got us champions league football.
Poch never had us below fifth and semis champions league final
Jose got us to a final.
We have a league one manager and it is embarrasing.
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None of those managers had their best goalie and all four CBs injured at the same time. Plus injuries and suspensions littered throughout the rest of the squad.
I doubt Ange will survive. But no manager in Spurs history has had to contend with an injury list that Ange has had practically since the day he entered WHL.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by hounslows-finest (U6180)
posted 20 hours, 47 minutes ago
Ange needs a couple of wins or else Levy may well put him out of his misery especially if the atmosphere turns toxic in home games.
I hope we can get the wins but I’m not confident.
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This
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 20 hours, 36 minutes ago
Club needs a whole new era
New owners
New manager
New coaches
New medical department
New players
New fans
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