As soon as i got to the ground after a 900 mile round trip from hudfersfield to Bournemouth,and back again, I sat down with mi empty flask, i just had a nasty feeling it was going to be a bad game, the rain was pooring down it was freezing cold and dark, but worst of all they were absolutely know atmosphere in the ground infact they were more atmosphere at bornvill at 10 in the morning and they wasn't even a game on. So i believe if the team come on to the pitch to a boring crowd on a cold dark day, you won't be motivated to play a good game, now don't start saying its up to the players to motivate us , that won't wash because iam talking about before kick off here, i could understand if the fans went quite during a game, but it was flat before kick off, i have never seen it so flat before a game, so don't you think it's about time the fans took some blame fo that poor game yesterday and other home games too. The question is what do we do about it ??? Because the drumer aint doing any good. The team need us to motivate them, and we're not doing it it's been proved in the past this season It works, I remember one game this season, forgot who the team we played was now but the crowd got behind the team for the second hl and the team improved and won the game.
posted on 13/12/11
Firstly this is a one off for me posting on here but this is a subject that gets me.
Standing at Town.
The stewarding at Town is becoming ridiculous and if we are not careful we will have either outbreaks of fighting between fans and stewards each week or no fans at all.
Who do i blame for this, well for one i believe HTFC have to take some responsibility. They created the "singing section", they along with the stadium got everyone right where they wanted you to be... all sat together so they could keep a very close eye on you all in the same place
The chairman comes out with statements of "you buy the season ticket and we'll get you out of your seat"... shame he didn't add that it would be to be ejected.
The treatment of home fans is a disgrace. The stewards are actively looking to pick fans out each week but they are a bit more sneaky than just wading in willy nilly, what they do is watch them on CCTV at home games and collect evidence that you are persistanty breaking the stadium rules(mainly persistant standing) so in one game they note you have been standing and then without warning after 2 or 3 games of the same offences they come and pick you out for special treatment. You don't get any final warnings, you're out.
The worst thing of all is the club just try to fob you off claiming "it's nothing to do with HTFC"
Well stone me but you're happy to take our money but when we ask for a little help you don't want to know.
If kids cant see in the singing section then i've got a belting idea.... buy seats in the family stand! They have that option afforded to them and besides what kind of idiot would think the singing section would remain seated for large periods of a game?
posted on 13/12/11
I agree, I dont go in that end cos there are two many teenagers for my liking, But i do agree,, I and a mate who is 60 ! have been warned for getting up and down constantly ( isnt that part and parcel of watching sport) and have had 2 letters saying we may be banned, The letter also said we were using offensive language (we were not, as the people around us also told the sstewards we had not used foul language, when yet again they came to cause us grief, We do sit/stand on the back row so spoil nobodies view, The last time a ssteward came up to us he told us "he had been told to do so by his boss" ??? my mate politely told him something along the lines of "i dont go to work laying concrete in freezing buildings, all over the country, all week to come and watch Town and then have you telling me what to do, leave me alone, go get your boss and go get the police, Anyway tell your c**k of a boss he is supposed to be watching the cctv for safety issues not for spying and building a dossier against individuals, Do one cos your spoiling everybodies view of the game now", All said backed by a rousing rendition of "get a proper job", Since then we have been left alone. I do however think Town would be quite happy having a stadium full of kids n dads and stiffs n squares who just sit in relative silence, Great fun, Attendances will be fantastic in a couple of years.
posted on 13/12/11
So we're not to bleme then??? Right article deactivated.
posted on 13/12/11
No way Loui, You cant just take your ball home when you decide not to play.
posted on 13/12/11
Yet, as said earlier...you go and watch the Giants and it's a totally different atmosphere.
What's more, a lot of the fans at the Giants are Town fans too...(like me), and you go to Odsal and stand in unsegregated terrace...and it's a great...a bit of banter, which is fun, but the mindset of everyone is totally different. Why ?
posted on 13/12/11
No idea Jacko, I love going to all the old stadiums, Cas, Wakey, Saints, Batley etc,,, Perhaps the mindset is different as the lads playing the game dont cheat, dont feign injury, dont earn fortunes, get stuck in and get battered as well as having respect for the referee ??? The fans are not caged in, segregated or told they cannot have a drink, It is great to be able to swap ends at half time to get a different view of the action too,,, I enjoy it far more than footy nowadays.
posted on 13/12/11
Not that anyone on here will 'approve'...!
But yeah Jacko, spot on I used to go & watch Halifax RLFC on Sundays, (you might not believe this ? We had a choice !!!! We could stand OR sit )
great days, great games, happy memories,
"Totally different. Why ? " I can't answer it either Jacko, & I bet Brycey feels the same, Stood any & everywhere, with rival fans too, hand full of cops, & no such thing as Stewards,
It's going into politics....
Problem, Reaction, Solution.
It's sad.
It's all about Control.
The post's by U 12090 & Bryce confirm this.
Looks like the thread is RE-Activated Lou'
posted on 13/12/11
Blimey...As usual though, it's the mindless minority that spoil it for everyone. Football hooliganism, an offshoot of the youth rebellion of the 60's, probably was less than 5% of the crowd...but everyone was made to suffer under new ground regs...and it was social hooliganism, not football hooligans...these idiots caused trouble everywhere they went...but football got stigmatised, and instead of banning them, they over reacted.
You'll remember standing in the main terrace at Leeds Road, mingling with the away fans from Man Utd and Newcastle...minor problems with drunks but everyone mingled, women, kids, old fogeys...at half time you could walk along the running track and go and stand behind the goals at the other end for the 2nd half...or buy a pork pie which was thrown up to you from the guy walking round the track, and you threw the money down to him..
I won't say 'those were the days', but in a way there seemed to be more awe and wonder then, and kids got lifted to the front, and looked after by the adults there, without fear of being abused or bloomin kidnapped..Society has moved a long way from all that.
posted on 13/12/11
Here's a question or 2
1 When the Rugby is played at the Galpharm do the same standing rules apply
2 When the stadium stages a concert do the same standing rules apply.
The reason i ask is that if it so dangerous to stand in a all seater stand at the football then surely the same dangers exist at the football.
More questions....
Why is it Dangerous for 700 Town fans to stand in the South Stand(when we wre permitted) and told to sit down every 2 mins but it's safe for 4000 Leeds/Sheff Wed fans to stand up for 90mins. Surely it's more dangerous when it's full?
Final question.
How many serious inncidents have occured in this country from people standing in an all seater stadium?
posted on 13/12/11
I'll have a crack at some off your questions 'U 12'.
1 When the Rugby is played at the Galpharm do the same standing rules apply
apparently Not. !
2 When the stadium stages a concert do the same standing rules apply.
Definitely Not,
Why is it Dangerous for 700 Town fans to stand in the South Stand(when we wre permitted) and told to sit down every 2 mins but it's safe for 4000 Leeds/Sheff Wed fans to stand up for 90mins. Surely it's more dangerous when it's full?
There is NO danger what so ever...(That would mean the Kop at Anfield is Dangerous in the extreme - It clearly isn't) I'd suggest It is more to do with....Doing as your told by 'authority'...."Don't think, WE"LL decide what you can & can't do". The all seeing eye ! & your cctv'd all along the way....Shame the cctv's weren't above every desk, in every Bank to catch proper criminals .
Final question.
How many serious inncidents have occured in this country from people standing in an all seater stadium?
I'd say NONE.
& Just to continue on from Jacko's comments,
The Kids should still be allowed to go to the front, Common sense doesn't exist in the type of people who apply & are chosen to do these 'health & safety' jobs..
(read Bryce's comments about his dealings with them above, It would be Hilarious if it wasn't true)
It's all about making people fearful without the 'system' to look after them,
All the kids go to the front at, Aussie Rules, Cricket, Rugby League & Union..& lo & behold Perth Glory too.
No Kidnappings, No Molestings , No mental breakdowns (despite the results ) with 'counseling' required.
Of course there are problems now, because everyone is lumped together under the same instructions, There would be arguments & possibly fights in the Kop if the seating rule was 'enforced'..... But common sense prevails, Those who don't want to have their view interrupted continually have a CHOICE.... ....WOW ! Who thought of that one.
They sit darn the touchline sides, Where no one stands up, Everyone is happy
Whats happened to everyone's Spirit ?
They're grinding you darn & you can't see it. (Not all of you )