it was a real sign of desperation that we had to do that apparently.
I remember the day he came back at the "council house" in the FA Cup, the bitters laughed.
total desperation is playing tevez and him still having 0 effect or a bad effect on the team
he's still the best playmaker in the league
Paul Scholes hasn't been on the losing side in the league this season.
Desperation or Fergie masterstroke ???
CHAMP20NS !!!
imagine how far ahead we'd be had he never retired in the first place.
i dont know ole
i think the 6 month break did scholes wonders, he got his hunger back
i think giggs should do the same!
The Blue Kenyan, Ken-ya Feel It? (U1641)
i see you disagree, care to give an alternative? please consider where we are compared to everyone else
if scholes hadnt come back, someone else would have stepped up. I so hate these scenarios which give credence to preferred state of mind. I remember vidic getting injured and how we will not be able to cope. Last yr with rooney and his drama and how berbatov could not do enough. Ronaldo left and valencia could never replace him, now everybody talks about him with one hand on their junk.
growth by players in a football team comes out of the pressure of first team football. You either grow or you wilt away. Injuries are perfect situations to test out young and fringe players. To me, it is basically the only bright spot to injuries. I would be equally as happy if we threw in pogba or will keane. We may not win the title but we would have developed either by knowing what pogba has to offer (and if it is worth the stress he is creating). Fergie himself has said he is reluctant to sign midfielders because of the youth coming through in that position, why then when fate presents you with basically a command to try them out does he just wilt?
Scholes has done a good job and could easily do it again next year, but am not happy about his coming back. it is fergie just being unwilling to suffer the growing pains required, instead using "quick fixes". History tells of the consequence of this type of mentality.
Not sure who would have stepped up.
Cleverley is always injured, Anderson is always injured, Fletcher is ill.
redastomatoes (U12026)
'we may not win the title', you say that like its no big thing, the premier league title is THE trophy to win. fergie wasnt going to risk it with youth players, instead he should continue to ease them into the first team than throw them in the deep end, with all the injuries we suffered with anderson, cleverley, fletcher, it was a masterstroke bringing scholes back, the youth will eventually get their chance, prob next season
youth players being promoted or league title, i know which one i would choose
Modric, Arteta, Cabaye, Allen, Dembele(who's been playing deeper recently) and Pizarro are all better than him
The Blue Kenyan, Ken-ya Feel It? (U1641)
prob out of them i would take modric but even then atm scholes would be my first choice
Modric, Arteta, Cabaye, Allen, Dembele(who's been playing deeper recently) and Pizarro are all better than him
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Joe Allen. If he played for a big team pundits would be creaming themselves over him.
comment by shafiul (U6126)
Yea i know, winning its all that matter right? Not how its done. Someday we are going to have to pay the price. There is no way this transition is going to be done without paying a price. This yr, the price we paid for losing vidic and bleeding de gea is champs league. Does not matter how long you postone it, transition WILL come with a price. So yay, we won the league. Did we answer any questions in midfield? This our squad actually improve this yr? How many of our talented youth players took the step forward?
We finally "move on" only we didnt. Great for transition stage.
Modric, Arteta, Cabaye, Allen, Dembele(who's been playing deeper recently) and Pizarro are all better than him
than Scholes, you drunk?
comment by The Blue Kenyan, Ken-ya Feel It? (U1641)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
Modric, Arteta, Cabaye, Allen, Dembele(who's been playing deeper recently) and Pizarro are all better than him
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Scholes > Modric
Scholes > Arteta
Scholes > Cabaye
Scholes > Dembele (are you having a laugh?!)
Scholes > Pizzaro (A player who can't even get into the City first XI, yet is a better player than Scholes who has been arguably the best player the PL has ever seen?)
And i thought you were a decent poster.....
You haven't mentioned Allen so I take it you agree he is better? Top man
No, i don't think he's better - i think he has potential. I'd like to see him consistently perform for a few years first!
Fair comment. I'm just wumming really.
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posted on 9/4/12
it was a real sign of desperation that we had to do that apparently.
posted on 9/4/12
I remember the day he came back at the "council house" in the FA Cup, the bitters laughed.
posted on 9/4/12
yep total desperation :D
posted on 9/4/12
total desperation is playing tevez and him still having 0 effect or a bad effect on the team
posted on 9/4/12
he's still the best playmaker in the league
posted on 9/4/12
Paul Scholes hasn't been on the losing side in the league this season.
Desperation or Fergie masterstroke ???
CHAMP20NS !!!
posted on 9/4/12
imagine how far ahead we'd be had he never retired in the first place.
posted on 9/4/12
i dont know ole
i think the 6 month break did scholes wonders, he got his hunger back
i think giggs should do the same!
posted on 9/4/12
fair point.
posted on 9/4/12
The Blue Kenyan, Ken-ya Feel It? (U1641)
i see you disagree, care to give an alternative? please consider where we are compared to everyone else
posted on 9/4/12
if scholes hadnt come back, someone else would have stepped up. I so hate these scenarios which give credence to preferred state of mind. I remember vidic getting injured and how we will not be able to cope. Last yr with rooney and his drama and how berbatov could not do enough. Ronaldo left and valencia could never replace him, now everybody talks about him with one hand on their junk.
growth by players in a football team comes out of the pressure of first team football. You either grow or you wilt away. Injuries are perfect situations to test out young and fringe players. To me, it is basically the only bright spot to injuries. I would be equally as happy if we threw in pogba or will keane. We may not win the title but we would have developed either by knowing what pogba has to offer (and if it is worth the stress he is creating). Fergie himself has said he is reluctant to sign midfielders because of the youth coming through in that position, why then when fate presents you with basically a command to try them out does he just wilt?
Scholes has done a good job and could easily do it again next year, but am not happy about his coming back. it is fergie just being unwilling to suffer the growing pains required, instead using "quick fixes". History tells of the consequence of this type of mentality.
posted on 9/4/12
Not sure who would have stepped up.
Cleverley is always injured, Anderson is always injured, Fletcher is ill.
posted on 9/4/12
redastomatoes (U12026)
'we may not win the title', you say that like its no big thing, the premier league title is THE trophy to win. fergie wasnt going to risk it with youth players, instead he should continue to ease them into the first team than throw them in the deep end, with all the injuries we suffered with anderson, cleverley, fletcher, it was a masterstroke bringing scholes back, the youth will eventually get their chance, prob next season
youth players being promoted or league title, i know which one i would choose
posted on 9/4/12
Modric, Arteta, Cabaye, Allen, Dembele(who's been playing deeper recently) and Pizarro are all better than him
posted on 9/4/12
The Blue Kenyan, Ken-ya Feel It? (U1641)
prob out of them i would take modric but even then atm scholes would be my first choice
posted on 9/4/12
Modric, Arteta, Cabaye, Allen, Dembele(who's been playing deeper recently) and Pizarro are all better than him
------------
Joe Allen. If he played for a big team pundits would be creaming themselves over him.
posted on 9/4/12
comment by shafiul (U6126)
Yea i know, winning its all that matter right? Not how its done. Someday we are going to have to pay the price. There is no way this transition is going to be done without paying a price. This yr, the price we paid for losing vidic and bleeding de gea is champs league. Does not matter how long you postone it, transition WILL come with a price. So yay, we won the league. Did we answer any questions in midfield? This our squad actually improve this yr? How many of our talented youth players took the step forward?
We finally "move on" only we didnt. Great for transition stage.
posted on 9/4/12
Modric, Arteta, Cabaye, Allen, Dembele(who's been playing deeper recently) and Pizarro are all better than him
than Scholes, you drunk?
posted on 9/4/12
comment by The Blue Kenyan, Ken-ya Feel It? (U1641)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
Modric, Arteta, Cabaye, Allen, Dembele(who's been playing deeper recently) and Pizarro are all better than him
--------
Scholes > Modric
Scholes > Arteta
Scholes > Cabaye
Scholes > Dembele (are you having a laugh?!)
Scholes > Pizzaro (A player who can't even get into the City first XI, yet is a better player than Scholes who has been arguably the best player the PL has ever seen?)
And i thought you were a decent poster.....
posted on 9/4/12
You haven't mentioned Allen so I take it you agree he is better? Top man
posted on 9/4/12
No, i don't think he's better - i think he has potential. I'd like to see him consistently perform for a few years first!
posted on 9/4/12
Fair comment. I'm just wumming really.
posted on 9/4/12
You'll warm back to me
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