Nice guy. Took over at a bloody difficult time. 'Lean' spell was diabolical.
Just hope we get a prolific striker to put all those chances away!
Nice article. When you put it like that.....
Yep, no whinging or moaning. Knew he didn't have a great remit but got on with the job. As soon as he had a chance to change the little he could, it made a huge difference.
If we get good owners, I'd rather have him than some expensive numpty like Sven
I'd cry if we had Sven
To be fair I will admit he has done well, obviously if you said we could have Billy back then sorry Cotterill but he is better, but no he has done well, and if we don't get Billy back in the summer then yeah I will admit, I would give Cotterill and o driscoll a chance!
His job was to keep us up which a few months ago was a mammoth task.
Heard him on Radio Nottm today and he seemed relalxed and at ease so pleased for him.
Good job by SC under very difficult circumstances.
Let us not forget, that Sir BC had Peter Taylor as his right hand man, at their peak. It is a master stroke that SC has got Sean OD in a similar position. Especially, when you consider Sean OD, would be a fantastic manager in his own right! Maybe the beginnings of an amazing partnership...who knows? But looks good so far. Let's give it some!
FTID!!!
He has clearly demonstrated that he is a good manager
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Don't be daft. Longest goalless run in our history, longest run of straight home defeats. All he's done is got us playing, for a few games. Like we should have been playing all season. He's spent years being a bad manager in this league and is hated by the fans of pretty much every club he's managed.
We're told he's been great since he's had the chance to bring his own players in. One player of what he brought in starts in our best eleven and its an eleven thats as good, or should be as most in this league,
It makes you laugh. If you do a lot worse than you should then reach your level months after you should you get praise. If he'd have done really well then dropped off hed get stick.
Unlike some on here I make my decisions and come to my conclusions based on all the info I have avalible. Cotterill was a rubbish manager no one wanted when he came in and I'm not going to change my mind based on a few results like plenty of forest fans are doing.
Saying all that we did play well today and I don't want to have a go just for the sake of it. I hope the new owners get rid but unless things go really I'll support him going forward.
" Unlike some on here I make my decisions and come to my conclusions based on all the info I have avalible" [sic]
Clearly, you need to get more information sources that are available.
How patronising - Bless!
I said he should go before Christmas I think, results were terrible as we all know and this is a results game.
However he and SOD have turned it around, our recent results put us in the top six. SC hasn't complained, his loans have all been good, the players obviously play for him and the dressing room needs stability with everything else that's cracking off.
SC has earnt the clubs and fans loyalty for the next season. If we don't attract another wealthy owner and even if we do.......................Cotterill will do just fine!
Well said Red Forest Bear!
cotterill has almost achieved what he was recruited to achieve and assuming we do stay up, he deserves credit for that
i can't see anything but further toil in mediocrity at best next season if he stays on though
cotterill has almost achieved what he was recruited to achieve and assuming we do stay up,
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Is that true?
Did anyone ever say to him "just keep us up" on the day McClaren left if I'd have posted an article saying, if the new manager can just keep us up he's donea great job. Hardly anyone would have agreed, baring in mind when McClaren was moaning about the squad, most on here were saying he'd been backed and the squad was better than the previous two seasons.
Now all of sudden SC was brought in just to keep us up. Football fans have shorter memories than goldfish.
comment by sutton (U3208)
posted 59 minutes ago
cotterill has almost achieved what he was recruited to achieve and assuming we do stay up,
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Is that true?
Did anyone ever say to him "just keep us up" on the day McClaren left if I'd have posted an article saying, if the new manager can just keep us up he's donea great job. Hardly anyone would have agreed, baring in mind when McClaren was moaning about the squad, most on here were saying he'd been backed and the squad was better than the previous two seasons.
Now all of sudden SC was brought in just to keep us up. Football fans have shorter memories than goldfish.
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what do you think he was brought in to achieve sutton? have you seen anything at any stage of this season that suggested we were in anything but a relegation battle? he came in with no squad, no money and no hope with the attitude key players displayed for much of the season.
i'm far from a cotterill fan but you're so blind to the reality you've got no business whatsoever telling other fans what's what.
what do you think he was brought in to achieve sutton?
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I think he was brought in to get the best out of what he's got. I'm asking the question, did anyone say to him "your job is just to keep us up"?
I don't think they did. I'm also asking people to think back to when McClaren was moaning and think about what they thought then. To think about when he left and to think about what they thought the squad was capable of back then.
Cotterill came in with no money, fair enough. But at the start of the season this forum was full of people telling me McClaren didn't need any more money. That what he already had was plenty, he'd been backed as much as was reasonable and if he did his job right that this squad could challenge. Many believed it better than the squad that had finished in the top 6 two seasons running. Now the same people seem to be telling me just staying up is a big achievement. I'm not saying we should be in the top 6 just that we should have done much better.
Im just being consistent in my views. Sorry if that annoys people but it's the way I am.
Sorry to interject, but you do come across in a 'blinkered' way Sutton.
You've previously said that you base your judgement of Cotterill on his historical managerial record. This in itself suggests that despite what he achieves at Forest, you will not change your mind. This is consistent, granted, but just not in a very fair way
Sorry to interject, but you do come across in a 'blinkered' way Sutton.
You've previously said that you base your judgement of Cotterill on his historical managerial record.
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Not purely on is historical record but thats a big part of it, yes. Surely that's the opposite of blinkered? Isn't it more blinkered to just look at the last few games? As I always say it's looking at all the information available and making a decision based on that. It might mean your less likely to change your mind, maybe you could say stubborn. But I don't think blinkereds fair.
Just to add to that, Hoons I don't think he's achieved anything at Forest and don't think he ever will. That's why I hope he's replaced. Let's say I'm wrong and he stays and we have a great season. Does that make him a good manager? Not nessaserily, Dowie took Palace up, Boothryd took Watford and was supposed to be the next big thing. They had a good season would you want them as our manager? I wouldn't.
It will take a lot for Cotterill to change my mind and for me to believe he's a good manager, but I want what's best for the club. And if we were to start doing well it might be best he stays. Despite what some think I dont dislike Cotterill personally and I'll happily hold my hands up and say I'm wrong if that's proven to be the case.
cotterill is never going to take us to the premier league but credit where it's due. we've looked a relegation certainty at various points of this season.
i've been critical of him at times but i said at the start that if he keeps this team up he'll have done a good job. once the loan players go back he's going to have a job on to keep us up next season as well looking at who's going to be under contract at this point
Apart from Sutton, it's nice to see done support coming in at last on here. Steve's done a good job and has to be given a chance to show what he can do from the start of a season.
it's nice to see done support coming in at last on here. Steve's done a good job
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Football fans get angry when clubs make rash decisions and don't follow a long term plan. Yet your happy that fans changed their opinions after every other result.
When i first said Cotterill should go i got hammered and no one agreed. A few weeks later most agreed. Now I'm back to being the bad fan and no one agrees. It's so fickle, if we lose the last 3 and i post a Cotterill out article plenty will agree, if we win them I'd get hammered again. Cotterill won't be a better or worse than he is now, regardless of our last 3 results.
There are lots of fans who have always liked Cotterill, appreciated he was given a nigh impossible task when he took on the job, and are finally pleased he is getting some recognition. Just not on a lot of the football forums it seems, but then again, the majority of fans probably don't post of forums.
There are lots of fans who have always liked Cotterill, appreciated he was given a nigh impossible task when he took on the job
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If you say so. But that's not what I've found. I've never spoken to a Forest fan that wanted Cotterill as manager or that thinks he done a good job. Obviously I've seen people on here or exchanged tweets with people that do think Cotterills done a good job. But there are some Forest fans that would think Hitler was brilliant if someone decided to give him the Forest managers job.
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posted on 14/4/12
Nice guy. Took over at a bloody difficult time. 'Lean' spell was diabolical.
Just hope we get a prolific striker to put all those chances away!
posted on 14/4/12
Bring Billy Back!
posted on 14/4/12
Nice article. When you put it like that.....
posted on 14/4/12
Yep, no whinging or moaning. Knew he didn't have a great remit but got on with the job. As soon as he had a chance to change the little he could, it made a huge difference.
If we get good owners, I'd rather have him than some expensive numpty like Sven
posted on 14/4/12
I'd cry if we had Sven
To be fair I will admit he has done well, obviously if you said we could have Billy back then sorry Cotterill but he is better, but no he has done well, and if we don't get Billy back in the summer then yeah I will admit, I would give Cotterill and o driscoll a chance!
posted on 14/4/12
His job was to keep us up which a few months ago was a mammoth task.
Heard him on Radio Nottm today and he seemed relalxed and at ease so pleased for him.
Good job by SC under very difficult circumstances.
posted on 15/4/12
Let us not forget, that Sir BC had Peter Taylor as his right hand man, at their peak. It is a master stroke that SC has got Sean OD in a similar position. Especially, when you consider Sean OD, would be a fantastic manager in his own right! Maybe the beginnings of an amazing partnership...who knows? But looks good so far. Let's give it some!
FTID!!!
posted on 15/4/12
He has clearly demonstrated that he is a good manager
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Don't be daft. Longest goalless run in our history, longest run of straight home defeats. All he's done is got us playing, for a few games. Like we should have been playing all season. He's spent years being a bad manager in this league and is hated by the fans of pretty much every club he's managed.
We're told he's been great since he's had the chance to bring his own players in. One player of what he brought in starts in our best eleven and its an eleven thats as good, or should be as most in this league,
It makes you laugh. If you do a lot worse than you should then reach your level months after you should you get praise. If he'd have done really well then dropped off hed get stick.
Unlike some on here I make my decisions and come to my conclusions based on all the info I have avalible. Cotterill was a rubbish manager no one wanted when he came in and I'm not going to change my mind based on a few results like plenty of forest fans are doing.
Saying all that we did play well today and I don't want to have a go just for the sake of it. I hope the new owners get rid but unless things go really I'll support him going forward.
posted on 15/4/12
" Unlike some on here I make my decisions and come to my conclusions based on all the info I have avalible" [sic]
Clearly, you need to get more information sources that are available.
How patronising - Bless!
posted on 15/4/12
I said he should go before Christmas I think, results were terrible as we all know and this is a results game.
However he and SOD have turned it around, our recent results put us in the top six. SC hasn't complained, his loans have all been good, the players obviously play for him and the dressing room needs stability with everything else that's cracking off.
SC has earnt the clubs and fans loyalty for the next season. If we don't attract another wealthy owner and even if we do.......................Cotterill will do just fine!
posted on 16/4/12
Well said Red Forest Bear!
posted on 16/4/12
cotterill has almost achieved what he was recruited to achieve and assuming we do stay up, he deserves credit for that
i can't see anything but further toil in mediocrity at best next season if he stays on though
posted on 16/4/12
cotterill has almost achieved what he was recruited to achieve and assuming we do stay up,
_______
Is that true?
Did anyone ever say to him "just keep us up" on the day McClaren left if I'd have posted an article saying, if the new manager can just keep us up he's donea great job. Hardly anyone would have agreed, baring in mind when McClaren was moaning about the squad, most on here were saying he'd been backed and the squad was better than the previous two seasons.
Now all of sudden SC was brought in just to keep us up. Football fans have shorter memories than goldfish.
posted on 16/4/12
comment by sutton (U3208)
posted 59 minutes ago
cotterill has almost achieved what he was recruited to achieve and assuming we do stay up,
_______
Is that true?
Did anyone ever say to him "just keep us up" on the day McClaren left if I'd have posted an article saying, if the new manager can just keep us up he's donea great job. Hardly anyone would have agreed, baring in mind when McClaren was moaning about the squad, most on here were saying he'd been backed and the squad was better than the previous two seasons.
Now all of sudden SC was brought in just to keep us up. Football fans have shorter memories than goldfish.
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what do you think he was brought in to achieve sutton? have you seen anything at any stage of this season that suggested we were in anything but a relegation battle? he came in with no squad, no money and no hope with the attitude key players displayed for much of the season.
i'm far from a cotterill fan but you're so blind to the reality you've got no business whatsoever telling other fans what's what.
posted on 16/4/12
what do you think he was brought in to achieve sutton?
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I think he was brought in to get the best out of what he's got. I'm asking the question, did anyone say to him "your job is just to keep us up"?
I don't think they did. I'm also asking people to think back to when McClaren was moaning and think about what they thought then. To think about when he left and to think about what they thought the squad was capable of back then.
Cotterill came in with no money, fair enough. But at the start of the season this forum was full of people telling me McClaren didn't need any more money. That what he already had was plenty, he'd been backed as much as was reasonable and if he did his job right that this squad could challenge. Many believed it better than the squad that had finished in the top 6 two seasons running. Now the same people seem to be telling me just staying up is a big achievement. I'm not saying we should be in the top 6 just that we should have done much better.
Im just being consistent in my views. Sorry if that annoys people but it's the way I am.
posted on 16/4/12
Sorry to interject, but you do come across in a 'blinkered' way Sutton.
You've previously said that you base your judgement of Cotterill on his historical managerial record. This in itself suggests that despite what he achieves at Forest, you will not change your mind. This is consistent, granted, but just not in a very fair way
posted on 16/4/12
Sorry to interject, but you do come across in a 'blinkered' way Sutton.
You've previously said that you base your judgement of Cotterill on his historical managerial record.
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Not purely on is historical record but thats a big part of it, yes. Surely that's the opposite of blinkered? Isn't it more blinkered to just look at the last few games? As I always say it's looking at all the information available and making a decision based on that. It might mean your less likely to change your mind, maybe you could say stubborn. But I don't think blinkereds fair.
posted on 16/4/12
Just to add to that, Hoons I don't think he's achieved anything at Forest and don't think he ever will. That's why I hope he's replaced. Let's say I'm wrong and he stays and we have a great season. Does that make him a good manager? Not nessaserily, Dowie took Palace up, Boothryd took Watford and was supposed to be the next big thing. They had a good season would you want them as our manager? I wouldn't.
It will take a lot for Cotterill to change my mind and for me to believe he's a good manager, but I want what's best for the club. And if we were to start doing well it might be best he stays. Despite what some think I dont dislike Cotterill personally and I'll happily hold my hands up and say I'm wrong if that's proven to be the case.
posted on 16/4/12
cotterill is never going to take us to the premier league but credit where it's due. we've looked a relegation certainty at various points of this season.
i've been critical of him at times but i said at the start that if he keeps this team up he'll have done a good job. once the loan players go back he's going to have a job on to keep us up next season as well looking at who's going to be under contract at this point
posted on 16/4/12
Apart from Sutton, it's nice to see done support coming in at last on here. Steve's done a good job and has to be given a chance to show what he can do from the start of a season.
posted on 16/4/12
it's nice to see done support coming in at last on here. Steve's done a good job
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Football fans get angry when clubs make rash decisions and don't follow a long term plan. Yet your happy that fans changed their opinions after every other result.
When i first said Cotterill should go i got hammered and no one agreed. A few weeks later most agreed. Now I'm back to being the bad fan and no one agrees. It's so fickle, if we lose the last 3 and i post a Cotterill out article plenty will agree, if we win them I'd get hammered again. Cotterill won't be a better or worse than he is now, regardless of our last 3 results.
posted on 16/4/12
There are lots of fans who have always liked Cotterill, appreciated he was given a nigh impossible task when he took on the job, and are finally pleased he is getting some recognition. Just not on a lot of the football forums it seems, but then again, the majority of fans probably don't post of forums.
posted on 16/4/12
There are lots of fans who have always liked Cotterill, appreciated he was given a nigh impossible task when he took on the job
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If you say so. But that's not what I've found. I've never spoken to a Forest fan that wanted Cotterill as manager or that thinks he done a good job. Obviously I've seen people on here or exchanged tweets with people that do think Cotterills done a good job. But there are some Forest fans that would think Hitler was brilliant if someone decided to give him the Forest managers job.
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