You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
Josh is one of the examples why u always think it’s hard to truly predict the trajectory of players when they’re 17-21. Players who look chit can turn good, players who you’re sure will be too PL players end up in Championship.
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Yeah good point BK. It is very difficult to predict how a player develops from those young ages into his early to mid 20's because there are so many factors. A player has to be fully dedicated to reach the top and if they waver even slightly it can all go to pot even if they have all the talent in the world.
In terms of our overhyped youngsters..I always thought RLC was massively overhyped but he won me over while he was at Palace. I honestly thought before that he wouldn’t even be a PL standard player.
This is a while back but Piazon defo got hyped and unlike Josh there wasn’t even any tangible reason for it. He came from Brazil at 18 having done nothing there other than a decent U17 World Cup. He randomly won young player of the year in his first season even though he was only playing since Jan (over players like Chalobah who captained the side throughout the season). Seen as the new Kaka. Never saw anything special in his game at first team or reserve level
Piazon looked a bit like Kaka so we all assumed he was.
comment by Mons (U21799)
posted 4 minutes ago
You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
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Is there a suggestion that they will Mons ? They surely couldn't get away with that regardless of how much the FA and PL want Utd to be in the CL next season.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mons (U21799)
posted 4 minutes ago
You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
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Is there a suggestion that they will Mons ? They surely couldn't get away with that regardless of how much the FA and PL want Utd to be in the CL next season.
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Why? They all deserve it and there’s no real doubt about it as they’re all miles clear after 3/4 of the season and was on my formalities in securing it
Correct decision
European governments have given different estimates of how many people in their respective countries they think will be affected by the virus.
On Sunday, French Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer said about half of the French population would be infected by the virus.
"From the start, the strategy has not been to prevent the virus from passing - we know that it will probably pass through more than half of us - but it is to make sure that it is spread as much as possible over time," he told France Info.
In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel warned earlier this week that up to 70% of the country's population - some 58 million people - could contract the virus.
The British government has previously said up to a fifth of the workforce may be off sick during the peak of the epidemic in the UK, and that up to 80% of Britons could catch coronavirus in a worst-case scenario of a major outbreak.
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See I don’t get this, why would China have 100,000 but Europe countries have 20 times more?
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 11 minutes ago
European governments have given different estimates of how many people in their respective countries they think will be affected by the virus.
On Sunday, French Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer said about half of the French population would be infected by the virus.
"From the start, the strategy has not been to prevent the virus from passing - we know that it will probably pass through more than half of us - but it is to make sure that it is spread as much as possible over time," he told France Info.
In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel warned earlier this week that up to 70% of the country's population - some 58 million people - could contract the virus.
The British government has previously said up to a fifth of the workforce may be off sick during the peak of the epidemic in the UK, and that up to 80% of Britons could catch coronavirus in a worst-case scenario of a major outbreak.
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See I don’t get this, why would China have 100,000 but Europe countries have 20 times more?
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Well as mentioned before, there is every reason to questions the authenticity of Chinese data ditto Russia, for obvious reasons.
It is easier for both these countyries to strictly enforces restriction of movement
China does have a less dense population than England
Demovratic govts are under much more public scrutiny and therefore possibly feel the presssure to be more cautious/pessimistic in their forecasts
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mons (U21799)
posted 4 minutes ago
You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there a suggestion that they will Mons ? They surely couldn't get away with that regardless of how much the FA and PL want Utd to be in the CL next season.
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Why? They all deserve it and there’s no real doubt about it as they’re all miles clear after 3/4 of the season and was on my formalities in securing it
Correct decision
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Liverpool should be given the title imo...i don't however feel that promotion is in anyway guarranteed for the top two teams in the Championship.
I don’t think it’s that unfair to end the season as it is and give promotion/relegation to where teams are (if they’re all on same number of games). It’s not ideal but literally nothing is. It’s just a symptom of the worst global viral pandemic that’s been seen in generations. If teams are going to complain they had 6 games to go it can surely be counteracted with the fact that they had 38 games (talking Championship) previously to get to where they are. Something has to be done and if the season ends I think it makes more sense than making everything void tbh
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mons (U21799)
posted 4 minutes ago
You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there a suggestion that they will Mons ? They surely couldn't get away with that regardless of how much the FA and PL want Utd to be in the CL next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why? They all deserve it and there’s no real doubt about it as they’re all miles clear after 3/4 of the season and was on my formalities in securing it
Correct decision
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Liverpool should be given the title imo...i don't however feel that promotion is in anyway guarranteed for the top two teams in the Championship.
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top 2 in championship were clear by around 6-8 points to 3rd
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
I think we should perhaps reign in a little the understandable excitement about Gilmore.
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Indeed...
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 7 minutes ago
As much as I wanted Josh to be good, looking back on it now I think he was the biggest youth hype job we might have had in the modern era.
Jon Harley was another one although he might be before some fan's time on here. And I was a guilty as anyone else of hyping him up when he first burst onto the scene.
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I thought Jon Harley was the next messiah, hence my caution these days
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Gotta say I never saw it in him myself
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 minutes ago
That's not to say that we necessarily have room for Grealish. Much depends on Loftus-Cheek who I'd absolutely love to see overcome his constant injury woes because potentially he's a world beater. I'm just not sure he will.
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yeah...bang on, I'm still wondering whether Van Ginkel will ever make it as a player with us, or do a 'Hargreaves'
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I guess if nothing else this enforced stoppage will give players like Ruben loftus-cheek more time to get fit...I'm guessing most of these guys we've got fitness equipment at home in gyms and the like... Obviously it's not match fitness but what can you do
Agree with BK that under Carlo, Josh looked just as impressive as Gilmour has in his two appearances this season. For example Carlo himself said he was MotM at Marseille in a game we lost, only to drop him afterwards.
Brummie doesn’t post here anymore but he’ll tell you the same thing.
I still think Josh could/should have gone on to achieve much more. Once the 11/12 season started his career took a massive nosedive.
But even at Middlesbrough the following season he was doing alright in the Championship, if not amazing. Weird how he’s no better than he was back then, arguably worse.
Makes me think fitness/attitude/coaching played as big a role as talent in his case
seems like every bad flu disease or plague always originates in china
remind me the point of not nuking china again?
(not the people)
just the land, nuke it then re-build it so it's cleaner?
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If they were to promote Leeds and West Brom just because they’re in the spots then Chelsea and Leicester should get CL since they’re in the spots
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Oh I agree. Again you could just argue that based on the preceding 29 games, the league is what it is. Just cancel it then. If they wanted fourth then they should have done better during the season. And more importantly just accept its extraordinary circumstances with no ideal solution in a once in a lifetime contagious viral pandemic.
When I say just cancel it then, I mean cancel it but not making it void, just where everyone is. I dunno just makes most sense to me.
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posted on 15/3/20
You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
posted on 15/3/20
Josh is one of the examples why u always think it’s hard to truly predict the trajectory of players when they’re 17-21. Players who look chit can turn good, players who you’re sure will be too PL players end up in Championship.
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Yeah good point BK. It is very difficult to predict how a player develops from those young ages into his early to mid 20's because there are so many factors. A player has to be fully dedicated to reach the top and if they waver even slightly it can all go to pot even if they have all the talent in the world.
posted on 15/3/20
In terms of our overhyped youngsters..I always thought RLC was massively overhyped but he won me over while he was at Palace. I honestly thought before that he wouldn’t even be a PL standard player.
This is a while back but Piazon defo got hyped and unlike Josh there wasn’t even any tangible reason for it. He came from Brazil at 18 having done nothing there other than a decent U17 World Cup. He randomly won young player of the year in his first season even though he was only playing since Jan (over players like Chalobah who captained the side throughout the season). Seen as the new Kaka. Never saw anything special in his game at first team or reserve level
posted on 15/3/20
Piazon looked a bit like Kaka so we all assumed he was.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Mons (U21799)
posted 4 minutes ago
You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there a suggestion that they will Mons ? They surely couldn't get away with that regardless of how much the FA and PL want Utd to be in the CL next season.
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mons (U21799)
posted 4 minutes ago
You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there a suggestion that they will Mons ? They surely couldn't get away with that regardless of how much the FA and PL want Utd to be in the CL next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why? They all deserve it and there’s no real doubt about it as they’re all miles clear after 3/4 of the season and was on my formalities in securing it
Correct decision
posted on 15/3/20
European governments have given different estimates of how many people in their respective countries they think will be affected by the virus.
On Sunday, French Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer said about half of the French population would be infected by the virus.
"From the start, the strategy has not been to prevent the virus from passing - we know that it will probably pass through more than half of us - but it is to make sure that it is spread as much as possible over time," he told France Info.
In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel warned earlier this week that up to 70% of the country's population - some 58 million people - could contract the virus.
The British government has previously said up to a fifth of the workforce may be off sick during the peak of the epidemic in the UK, and that up to 80% of Britons could catch coronavirus in a worst-case scenario of a major outbreak.
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See I don’t get this, why would China have 100,000 but Europe countries have 20 times more?
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 11 minutes ago
European governments have given different estimates of how many people in their respective countries they think will be affected by the virus.
On Sunday, French Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer said about half of the French population would be infected by the virus.
"From the start, the strategy has not been to prevent the virus from passing - we know that it will probably pass through more than half of us - but it is to make sure that it is spread as much as possible over time," he told France Info.
In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel warned earlier this week that up to 70% of the country's population - some 58 million people - could contract the virus.
The British government has previously said up to a fifth of the workforce may be off sick during the peak of the epidemic in the UK, and that up to 80% of Britons could catch coronavirus in a worst-case scenario of a major outbreak.
——————————
See I don’t get this, why would China have 100,000 but Europe countries have 20 times more?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well as mentioned before, there is every reason to questions the authenticity of Chinese data ditto Russia, for obvious reasons.
It is easier for both these countyries to strictly enforces restriction of movement
China does have a less dense population than England
Demovratic govts are under much more public scrutiny and therefore possibly feel the presssure to be more cautious/pessimistic in their forecasts
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mons (U21799)
posted 4 minutes ago
You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there a suggestion that they will Mons ? They surely couldn't get away with that regardless of how much the FA and PL want Utd to be in the CL next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why? They all deserve it and there’s no real doubt about it as they’re all miles clear after 3/4 of the season and was on my formalities in securing it
Correct decision
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool should be given the title imo...i don't however feel that promotion is in anyway guarranteed for the top two teams in the Championship.
posted on 15/3/20
I don’t think it’s that unfair to end the season as it is and give promotion/relegation to where teams are (if they’re all on same number of games). It’s not ideal but literally nothing is. It’s just a symptom of the worst global viral pandemic that’s been seen in generations. If teams are going to complain they had 6 games to go it can surely be counteracted with the fact that they had 38 games (talking Championship) previously to get to where they are. Something has to be done and if the season ends I think it makes more sense than making everything void tbh
posted on 15/3/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mons (U21799)
posted 4 minutes ago
You can't gift Liverpool the title and promote Leeds and West brom based on league position and then have a playoff for CL places
The fa are corrupt but they couldn't get away with that
If they stop the league they freeze everything in time and that goes for everything csnt have one rule for one and both the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there a suggestion that they will Mons ? They surely couldn't get away with that regardless of how much the FA and PL want Utd to be in the CL next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why? They all deserve it and there’s no real doubt about it as they’re all miles clear after 3/4 of the season and was on my formalities in securing it
Correct decision
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool should be given the title imo...i don't however feel that promotion is in anyway guarranteed for the top two teams in the Championship.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
top 2 in championship were clear by around 6-8 points to 3rd
posted on 15/3/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
I think we should perhaps reign in a little the understandable excitement about Gilmore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed...
posted on 15/3/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 7 minutes ago
As much as I wanted Josh to be good, looking back on it now I think he was the biggest youth hype job we might have had in the modern era.
Jon Harley was another one although he might be before some fan's time on here. And I was a guilty as anyone else of hyping him up when he first burst onto the scene.
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I thought Jon Harley was the next messiah, hence my caution these days
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Gotta say I never saw it in him myself
posted on 15/3/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 minutes ago
That's not to say that we necessarily have room for Grealish. Much depends on Loftus-Cheek who I'd absolutely love to see overcome his constant injury woes because potentially he's a world beater. I'm just not sure he will.
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yeah...bang on, I'm still wondering whether Van Ginkel will ever make it as a player with us, or do a 'Hargreaves'
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess if nothing else this enforced stoppage will give players like Ruben loftus-cheek more time to get fit...I'm guessing most of these guys we've got fitness equipment at home in gyms and the like... Obviously it's not match fitness but what can you do
posted on 15/3/20
Agree with BK that under Carlo, Josh looked just as impressive as Gilmour has in his two appearances this season. For example Carlo himself said he was MotM at Marseille in a game we lost, only to drop him afterwards.
Brummie doesn’t post here anymore but he’ll tell you the same thing.
posted on 15/3/20
I still think Josh could/should have gone on to achieve much more. Once the 11/12 season started his career took a massive nosedive.
But even at Middlesbrough the following season he was doing alright in the Championship, if not amazing. Weird how he’s no better than he was back then, arguably worse.
posted on 15/3/20
Makes me think fitness/attitude/coaching played as big a role as talent in his case
posted on 15/3/20
seems like every bad flu disease or plague always originates in china
remind me the point of not nuking china again?
posted on 15/3/20
(not the people)
just the land, nuke it then re-build it so it's cleaner?
posted on 15/3/20
They have nukes too
posted on 15/3/20
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posted on 15/3/20
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posted on 15/3/20
If they were to promote Leeds and West Brom just because they’re in the spots then Chelsea and Leicester should get CL since they’re in the spots
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Oh I agree. Again you could just argue that based on the preceding 29 games, the league is what it is. Just cancel it then. If they wanted fourth then they should have done better during the season. And more importantly just accept its extraordinary circumstances with no ideal solution in a once in a lifetime contagious viral pandemic.
posted on 15/3/20
When I say just cancel it then, I mean cancel it but not making it void, just where everyone is. I dunno just makes most sense to me.
posted on 15/3/20
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