I don't share that perspective, he has been playing regularly now and while his overall performances have been patchy, he is starting to contribute at the business end. He is also one of TT's favourites - and clearly a 'project' player in that respect.
Also, when 'our team was fit' isn't really an argument as we haven't had all seven attacking players at our disposal fit at the same time in any matchweek fixture this season - the reality he is racking up a lot of minutes, and to be fair to him he has been much more effective than Werner, Ziyech or Pulisic.
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Hudson-Odoi is probably a starter for us when all players are fit - when looking at form this season.
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If Werner, Havertz, Lukaku and Pulisic are all injured you mean?
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I think CHO is above both Pulisic and Werner in the pecking order and Havertz is more typically used as a false nine, or as a false footballer when is off form.
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Nah
He wasn't getting a sniff when our team was fit. He might get a few more games as TT brings players back slowly but when our team is fit CHO will even struggle to get on the bench
Hes had a couple of good games, but seriously needs to up consistency, but honestly hasn't been looking good enough. However, he's young, very young so time is on his side.........but if someone offers us 60+ million I would sell now with a buy back, since we have the cover, but he's hardly pulling up trees.
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Lol no one is gonna bid £60m for him AND accept a buyback clause
I think CHO is the worst out of all our attacking options under normal circumstances with everyone fit. But he’s definitely had a better season than most others so far. And not just because he’s played more games.
CHO - got the penalty, an assist, and the pass to set Lukaku up for the second penalty, you don't need to be CMF to recognise he is contributing
Anyway is he like Batshuayi?
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Anyway is he like Batshuayi?
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Nah cos hes a wing back........
NPE, first you say:
"Hudson-Odoi is probably a starter for us when all players are fit".
Then you say:
"when 'our team was fit' isn't really an argument".
I think you're arguing with yourself.
comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 2 minutes ago
NPE, first you say:
"Hudson-Odoi is probably a starter for us when all players are fit".
Then you say:
"when 'our team was fit' isn't really an argument".
I think you're arguing with yourself.
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I meant he has probably earned that status if/when all our players are fit.
It is perfectly reasonable to make the case - whether you agree or disagree with it - while also saying that so far this season, we have not yet had all our attackers fit at one time.
And that CHO has done more with his game time than Ziyech, Pulisic or Werner and probably Havertz.
Now that is damning on our collective performance from our forwards in some ways, but it also means if all players were fit - I'd start CHO-Lukaku-Mount as our front three.
You can agree or disagree but there is zero inconsistency or logic gap and you misunderstood me completely.
OK - I understand (I was just teasing anyway). I do have a different opinion though. If everyone is fit (which I agree is sadly unlikely) CHO would be far down the pecking order for me. I have seen no evidence that CHO is one of Tuchel's favourites either - he plays when he's fit because that's all we have. He has been selected ahead of Ziyech most recently, but certainly not always.
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Spurs to win against 10 men again
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Nope...they got VAR'dðŸ¤
Norwich fans booing Gilmour
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted 41 minutes ago
Anyway is he like Batshuayi?
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Do you want banning...
So Watford lost again...and Dennis scored again...I see better things for him
Can’t wait until RtM returns as a changed man.
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posted 7 minutes ago
Norwich fans booing Gilmour
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They have been slagging him off on Twitter too - and are getting increasingly irate at Chelsea fans who are praising him for various statistics.
I don't watch Norwich play enough to make a judgement, but increasingly a win-win scenario for both parties appears to be recalling him and either sending him elsewhere or retaining him.
Loaning him out appears increasingly foolish following our injury and Covid crisis.
He's learnt a lot playing for Norwich - how to be on the wrong side of a beating every week
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posted 43 seconds ago
He's learnt a lot playing for Norwich - how to be on the wrong side of a beating every week
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He's learnt what losing feels like
Every time I have watched Norwich he has been the stand out player, even the other week he dominated a United midfield that we struggled with a bit. But I think in the current climate I would recall him in Jan if that was possible as I would rather see him playing than Ross/Saul. And honestly thinking back you gotta question the Saul loan again tbh, as why bring in someone from Italy when we have a kid whose been doing it for us since last year, unless Saul was only really supposed to be 5th choice bench warmer
Chelsea are considering options to replace Chilwell.
First approach with Lucas Digne’s camp as he’s prepared to leave Everton.
Sergiño Dest is appreciated - nothing advanced yet. Nicolás Tagliafico has been discussed weeks ago.
Recalling E. Palmieri or Maatsen, plan B.
Fabrizio Romano ^^^
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chelsea are considering options to replace Chilwell.
First approach with Lucas Digne’s camp as he’s prepared to leave Everton.
Sergiño Dest is appreciated - nothing advanced yet. Nicolás Tagliafico has been discussed weeks ago.
Recalling E. Palmieri or Maatsen, plan B.
Fabrizio Romano ^^^
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Anyone know anything about these guys?
But seriously Nick's grandma is a better option than Alonso. Not against......but not really a fan of plan B, but Emerson showed a few glimpses I guess
Digne loan w/ option to buy is my preference. Not sure how willing Everton would be to sell to us though.
Ideal situation would've been buying someone who could play on both wings (i.e. rwb and lwb) as we look a little light at rwb. Our current back-ups to James (Azpi, CHO and Pulisic) aren't really suited to the position.
Seen enough of Digne in the league to know he's a decent player.
Tagliafico out of favour this season at Ajax. Daley Blind is ahead of him.
Not seen Dest play tbh
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I don't share that perspective, he has been playing regularly now and while his overall performances have been patchy, he is starting to contribute at the business end. He is also one of TT's favourites - and clearly a 'project' player in that respect.
Also, when 'our team was fit' isn't really an argument as we haven't had all seven attacking players at our disposal fit at the same time in any matchweek fixture this season - the reality he is racking up a lot of minutes, and to be fair to him he has been much more effective than Werner, Ziyech or Pulisic.
posted on 28/12/21
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 1 second ago
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted 4 minutes ago
Hudson-Odoi is probably a starter for us when all players are fit - when looking at form this season.
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If Werner, Havertz, Lukaku and Pulisic are all injured you mean?
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I think CHO is above both Pulisic and Werner in the pecking order and Havertz is more typically used as a false nine, or as a false footballer when is off form.
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Nah
He wasn't getting a sniff when our team was fit. He might get a few more games as TT brings players back slowly but when our team is fit CHO will even struggle to get on the bench
Hes had a couple of good games, but seriously needs to up consistency, but honestly hasn't been looking good enough. However, he's young, very young so time is on his side.........but if someone offers us 60+ million I would sell now with a buy back, since we have the cover, but he's hardly pulling up trees.
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Lol no one is gonna bid £60m for him AND accept a buyback clause
posted on 28/12/21
I think CHO is the worst out of all our attacking options under normal circumstances with everyone fit. But he’s definitely had a better season than most others so far. And not just because he’s played more games.
posted on 28/12/21
CHO - got the penalty, an assist, and the pass to set Lukaku up for the second penalty, you don't need to be CMF to recognise he is contributing
posted on 28/12/21
Anyway is he like Batshuayi?
posted on 28/12/21
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted less than a minute ago
Anyway is he like Batshuayi?
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Nah cos hes a wing back........
posted on 28/12/21
NPE, first you say:
"Hudson-Odoi is probably a starter for us when all players are fit".
Then you say:
"when 'our team was fit' isn't really an argument".
I think you're arguing with yourself.
posted on 28/12/21
comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 2 minutes ago
NPE, first you say:
"Hudson-Odoi is probably a starter for us when all players are fit".
Then you say:
"when 'our team was fit' isn't really an argument".
I think you're arguing with yourself.
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I meant he has probably earned that status if/when all our players are fit.
It is perfectly reasonable to make the case - whether you agree or disagree with it - while also saying that so far this season, we have not yet had all our attackers fit at one time.
And that CHO has done more with his game time than Ziyech, Pulisic or Werner and probably Havertz.
Now that is damning on our collective performance from our forwards in some ways, but it also means if all players were fit - I'd start CHO-Lukaku-Mount as our front three.
You can agree or disagree but there is zero inconsistency or logic gap and you misunderstood me completely.
posted on 28/12/21
OK - I understand (I was just teasing anyway). I do have a different opinion though. If everyone is fit (which I agree is sadly unlikely) CHO would be far down the pecking order for me. I have seen no evidence that CHO is one of Tuchel's favourites either - he plays when he's fit because that's all we have. He has been selected ahead of Ziyech most recently, but certainly not always.
posted on 28/12/21
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Spurs to win against 10 men again
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Nope...they got VAR'dðŸ¤
posted on 28/12/21
Norwich fans booing Gilmour
posted on 28/12/21
comment by NPE - Finding Timo (U22712)
posted 41 minutes ago
Anyway is he like Batshuayi?
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Do you want banning...
posted on 28/12/21
So Watford lost again...and Dennis scored again...I see better things for him
posted on 28/12/21
Insigne to Toronto
posted on 28/12/21
Can’t wait until RtM returns as a changed man.
posted on 28/12/21
comment by CSTP (U1453)
posted 7 minutes ago
Norwich fans booing Gilmour
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They have been slagging him off on Twitter too - and are getting increasingly irate at Chelsea fans who are praising him for various statistics.
I don't watch Norwich play enough to make a judgement, but increasingly a win-win scenario for both parties appears to be recalling him and either sending him elsewhere or retaining him.
Loaning him out appears increasingly foolish following our injury and Covid crisis.
posted on 28/12/21
He's learnt a lot playing for Norwich - how to be on the wrong side of a beating every week
posted on 28/12/21
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 43 seconds ago
He's learnt a lot playing for Norwich - how to be on the wrong side of a beating every week
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He's learnt what losing feels like
posted on 28/12/21
Every time I have watched Norwich he has been the stand out player, even the other week he dominated a United midfield that we struggled with a bit. But I think in the current climate I would recall him in Jan if that was possible as I would rather see him playing than Ross/Saul. And honestly thinking back you gotta question the Saul loan again tbh, as why bring in someone from Italy when we have a kid whose been doing it for us since last year, unless Saul was only really supposed to be 5th choice bench warmer
posted on 28/12/21
*Spain even
posted on 28/12/21
Chelsea are considering options to replace Chilwell.
First approach with Lucas Digne’s camp as he’s prepared to leave Everton.
Sergiño Dest is appreciated - nothing advanced yet. Nicolás Tagliafico has been discussed weeks ago.
Recalling E. Palmieri or Maatsen, plan B.
Fabrizio Romano ^^^
posted on 28/12/21
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 4 minutes ago
Chelsea are considering options to replace Chilwell.
First approach with Lucas Digne’s camp as he’s prepared to leave Everton.
Sergiño Dest is appreciated - nothing advanced yet. Nicolás Tagliafico has been discussed weeks ago.
Recalling E. Palmieri or Maatsen, plan B.
Fabrizio Romano ^^^
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Anyone know anything about these guys?
But seriously Nick's grandma is a better option than Alonso. Not against......but not really a fan of plan B, but Emerson showed a few glimpses I guess
posted on 28/12/21
Digne loan w/ option to buy is my preference. Not sure how willing Everton would be to sell to us though.
Ideal situation would've been buying someone who could play on both wings (i.e. rwb and lwb) as we look a little light at rwb. Our current back-ups to James (Azpi, CHO and Pulisic) aren't really suited to the position.
posted on 28/12/21
Seen enough of Digne in the league to know he's a decent player.
Tagliafico out of favour this season at Ajax. Daley Blind is ahead of him.
Not seen Dest play tbh
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