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posted on 23/4/24

I think the owners would go for Tuchel just cos they know they’ll get the fans off their back for 6 months as they’d have swallowed their pride and shown they listen

So they’d be tempted just cos of that

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 23/4/24

comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted 15 seconds ago

comment by g7 (U12473)
posted 44 seconds ago
Reports from Germany suggests Tuchel would be happy to come back. If the owners have any clue they have to try and make that happen.
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Read my mind before my comment 😄
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Yep. I think only him, Ancelotti or Mourinho could gain them any favour now.

One is a bad decision. One is unattainable. One only requires a bit of humility. Easy choice to me.

posted on 23/4/24

Bringing on silva and chalobah now lol see these little things…why he’s so bad.

Petrovic been phenomenal btw

posted on 23/4/24

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
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comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted less than a minute ago
Said before that sadly the likes of Amorim, De Zerbi, Slot etc, any manager who could get a style etc into these players, all have much better offers from elsewhere, sadly we are probably bottom of the list for most managers becoming available.


Genuinely, I think there's a chance we go back to Tuchel. Owners will see the fans reaction to the news that he wouldn't mind a return. Apparently there's banners in the crowd for Tuchel as well
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Please no, was taking us down and burned Bayern down.....stay well away,
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I’d have him back tomorrow
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Not in a million years Nick

Was good for 6 months for us then couldn't handle it, lost a 1 horse race in Germany and got sacked months ago. Got fired from PSG......has Spurs written all over him

posted on 23/4/24

comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted less than a minute ago
Said before that sadly the likes of Amorim, De Zerbi, Slot etc, any manager who could get a style etc into these players, all have much better offers from elsewhere, sadly we are probably bottom of the list for most managers becoming available.


Genuinely, I think there's a chance we go back to Tuchel. Owners will see the fans reaction to the news that he wouldn't mind a return. Apparently there's banners in the crowd for Tuchel as well
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Please no, was taking us down and burned Bayern down.....stay well away,
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Not sure. A lot to be said in similarities to Mourinhos second coming and winning the league etc. Not saying it'll be a similar thing by any stretch, but owners need the fans on board and Tuchel return would do that imo

posted on 23/4/24

I wouldn't care if Poch went. Don't like him. Reminds me of Spurs. Has done nothing to change my feelings towards him.

Seems like his one gimmick was pressing a lot which was a big deal 10 years ago but not that new anymore.

My point is the players are a blend of mediocre, unexperienced, and ill suited to each other. Enzo belongs in a team with a lot of possession, Mudryk in a team that plays counter attacking football stc etc

And this will be close to impossible to fix over a short time frame due to FFP. Could take 3-5 years.

So, yeah sack Poch. Hope everyone feels better from it. Just don't think means we're going to be any better.

Much like with Potter who I was eager to bin. I learned my lesson sadly this season.

posted on 23/4/24

comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted less than a minute ago
Said before that sadly the likes of Amorim, De Zerbi, Slot etc, any manager who could get a style etc into these players, all have much better offers from elsewhere, sadly we are probably bottom of the list for most managers becoming available.


Genuinely, I think there's a chance we go back to Tuchel. Owners will see the fans reaction to the news that he wouldn't mind a return. Apparently there's banners in the crowd for Tuchel as well
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Please no, was taking us down and burned Bayern down.....stay well away,
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I’d have him back tomorrow
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Not in a million years Nick

Was good for 6 months for us then couldn't handle it, lost a 1 horse race in Germany and got sacked months ago. Got fired from PSG......has Spurs written all over him
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A 1 horse race against a team about to go unbeaten and near enough beat the all time points record…hmm

posted on 23/4/24

Now the cup games etc are all done. Should be youth players from here on out

posted on 23/4/24

I’ll take the 10 point deduction to fail fair play rules if it meant sacking Poch

posted on 23/4/24

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted less than a minute ago
Said before that sadly the likes of Amorim, De Zerbi, Slot etc, any manager who could get a style etc into these players, all have much better offers from elsewhere, sadly we are probably bottom of the list for most managers becoming available.


Genuinely, I think there's a chance we go back to Tuchel. Owners will see the fans reaction to the news that he wouldn't mind a return. Apparently there's banners in the crowd for Tuchel as well
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Please no, was taking us down and burned Bayern down.....stay well away,
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I’d have him back tomorrow
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Not in a million years Nick

Was good for 6 months for us then couldn't handle it, lost a 1 horse race in Germany and got sacked months ago. Got fired from PSG......has Spurs written all over him
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A 1 horse race against a team about to go unbeaten and near enough beat the all time points record…hmm
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Yeah to be fair no one was topping Leverkusen this season. Pretty sure they've got the longest unbeaten run in Europe amongst the top 5 leagues now, and are on course to set a new Bundesliga points record

posted on 23/4/24

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
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comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted less than a minute ago
Said before that sadly the likes of Amorim, De Zerbi, Slot etc, any manager who could get a style etc into these players, all have much better offers from elsewhere, sadly we are probably bottom of the list for most managers becoming available.


Genuinely, I think there's a chance we go back to Tuchel. Owners will see the fans reaction to the news that he wouldn't mind a return. Apparently there's banners in the crowd for Tuchel as well
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Please no, was taking us down and burned Bayern down.....stay well away,
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I’d have him back tomorrow
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Not in a million years Nick

Was good for 6 months for us then couldn't handle it, lost a 1 horse race in Germany and got sacked months ago. Got fired from PSG......has Spurs written all over him
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A 1 horse race against a team about to go unbeaten and near enough beat the all time points record…hmm
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Again with the team he had Bayern should have done that also, by far the best team in Germany for the last 10+ years mate. If he was so good would have easily matched Xabi, and adding one of the best strikers in thebworld

posted on 23/4/24

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 seconds ago
Now the cup games etc are all done. Should be youth players from here on out
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Impossible for Washington to be any worse than Jackson

Equally as bad yeh
Worse? Impossible

Just let him play all the last games see what he’s got

posted on 23/4/24

Another foul almost directly to a goal......

posted on 23/4/24

Without Cole palmer we’d be 18th. Let’s say we have a capable replacement who chipped in with a few goals. We’d be about 15th. Poch needs to go

posted on 23/4/24

comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted less than a minute ago
Said before that sadly the likes of Amorim, De Zerbi, Slot etc, any manager who could get a style etc into these players, all have much better offers from elsewhere, sadly we are probably bottom of the list for most managers becoming available.


Genuinely, I think there's a chance we go back to Tuchel. Owners will see the fans reaction to the news that he wouldn't mind a return. Apparently there's banners in the crowd for Tuchel as well
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Please no, was taking us down and burned Bayern down.....stay well away,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’d have him back tomorrow
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Not in a million years Nick

Was good for 6 months for us then couldn't handle it, lost a 1 horse race in Germany and got sacked months ago. Got fired from PSG......has Spurs written all over him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A 1 horse race against a team about to go unbeaten and near enough beat the all time points record…hmm
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Again with the team he had Bayern should have done that also, by far the best team in Germany for the last 10+ years mate. If he was so good would have easily matched Xabi, and adding one of the best strikers in thebworld
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They’re not a better team than Leverkusen now though. Those are the facts. They’re unreal and about to be an all time team.

And Bayern are still in the cl semis

comment by g7 (U12473)

posted on 23/4/24

Yep. Would not at all be surprised to see Tuchel pick up another CL this season. Great manager.

posted on 23/4/24

comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted less than a minute ago
Said before that sadly the likes of Amorim, De Zerbi, Slot etc, any manager who could get a style etc into these players, all have much better offers from elsewhere, sadly we are probably bottom of the list for most managers becoming available.


Genuinely, I think there's a chance we go back to Tuchel. Owners will see the fans reaction to the news that he wouldn't mind a return. Apparently there's banners in the crowd for Tuchel as well
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please no, was taking us down and burned Bayern down.....stay well away,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’d have him back tomorrow
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not in a million years Nick

Was good for 6 months for us then couldn't handle it, lost a 1 horse race in Germany and got sacked months ago. Got fired from PSG......has Spurs written all over him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A 1 horse race against a team about to go unbeaten and near enough beat the all time points record…hmm
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Again with the team he had Bayern should have done that also, by far the best team in Germany for the last 10+ years mate. If he was so good would have easily matched Xabi, and adding one of the best strikers in thebworld
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https://twitter.com/imzispoms/status/1782343374604788060

This tweet offers a pretty robust and fair defence of Tuchel imo

posted on 23/4/24

Leicester 5-0 up as well at home

posted on 23/4/24

Most goals conceded in our PL history. Our defenders aren't great but they've looked championship level under Poch. Also bear in mind we were quite solid in defence under Potter.

posted on 23/4/24

In terms of coaching tuchels the best coach we’ve ever had. For what he got out of a team of that quality is the most impressive. Jose had better teams, so did conte etc

posted on 23/4/24

There's also a lot of mounting pressure on Stewart and Winstanley as well. Fans want them out the door for leading the process in getting Poch.

We've gone from one massive overhaul to needing another one. About 3-4 signings, experienced signings, Amy from being able to compete imo, and we need a complete overhaul from directors of football, through to medical, if we even have a medical department this season, I'm skeptical on that 😄

posted on 23/4/24

Most important thing about having a good defence isn't personnel - it's shape and good organisation. These come directly from the manager.

posted on 23/4/24

comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 8 seconds ago
Most goals conceded in our PL history. Our defenders aren't great but they've looked championship level under Poch. Also bear in mind we were quite solid in defence under Potter.

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Problem is we also look moderately more effective going forward this season.

Partly the Palmer effect but also its because Poch turns matches into basketball games.

If we become a more compact team like under Tuchel we'll face the persistent issue we used to have of not being able to unlock low blocks

posted on 23/4/24

The main worry, and I think it was cited before by his stupid moneyball approach to buying players with metrics.

Most our players are really bad technically. Of our signings, badiashile, Jackson, cucurella, mudryk, sterling, disasi, caicedo!!!, all really really poor technically.

posted on 23/4/24

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 34 seconds ago
The main worry, and I think it was cited before by his stupid moneyball approach to buying players with metrics.

Most our players are really bad technically. Of our signings, badiashile, Jackson, cucurella, mudryk, sterling, disasi, caicedo!!!, all really really poor technically.
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The conundrum there is that all of them could become brilliant under a proper structure and a better manager,where there's a clear style implemented etc.

Flip side is,they aren't anywhere near that level yet, and may never be

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