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comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 23/5/24

There's literally no manager out there that fits this ridiculous narrow criteria that the club are imposing.

Maresca probably the only one that comes close. Don't sleep on him being appointed if the club have deemed De Zerbi not enough of a yes man.

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 23/5/24

comment by Superb - gonna get what we De Zerbi. (U6486)
posted 22 minutes ago
There's literally no manager out there that fits this ridiculous narrow criteria that the club are imposing.

Maresca probably the only one that comes close. Don't sleep on him being appointed if the club have deemed De Zerbi not enough of a yes man.
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It's a made up criteria that changes like the weather.

This time next season they'll be after an experienced coach who has a track record of winning trophies

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 23/5/24

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Superb - gonna get what we De Zerbi. (U6486)
posted 22 minutes ago
There's literally no manager out there that fits this ridiculous narrow criteria that the club are imposing.

Maresca probably the only one that comes close. Don't sleep on him being appointed if the club have deemed De Zerbi not enough of a yes man.
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It's a made up criteria that changes like the weather.

This time next season they'll be after an experienced coach who has a track record of winning trophies
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Yup, when they realise that this current method gets them precisely nowhere.

As I said the other day these owners are so far behind in their understanding and have a huge amount of learning to go through. It's just a shame that us fans will have to suffer further thanks to their arrogance and naivety.

posted on 23/5/24

Owners only look at data

They don’t realise it’s not all data, human element. If you’ve gone from Pochettino who everyone liked to the Ipswich manager, the players ain’t gonna respect him one bit

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 23/5/24

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 3 minutes ago

Owners only look at data

They don’t realise it’s not all data, human element. If you’ve gone from Pochettino who everyone liked to the Ipswich manager, the players ain’t gonna respect him one bit
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Yep

I've got no reason to doubt he's a great choice going by a very specific data algorithm. Unfortunately that doesn't factor in the players thinking "who tf is this? why should I listen to him?"

This is the type of appointment that might work in 5-10 years after we've won f*ck all & burnt through a stream of more qualified managers, it might feel fresh, now it's just stupid.

posted on 23/5/24

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 5 minutes ago
Owners only look at data

They don’t realise it’s not all data, human element. If you’ve gone from Pochettino who everyone liked to the Ipswich manager, the players ain’t gonna respect him one bit
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The data is the only thing that makes Pooch looks somewhat competent, though.....as the football side was dreadful for 9/10 of the season. Terrible selection, 0 in game management and so fragile to set plays and a refusal to fix it is the tip of the iceberg.

Did I miss the part were Pooch was good, like I know the season has only just finished but I only seem to recall dreadful football for the most part and then a month of something you could call adequate.

posted on 23/5/24

This isn't the Chelsea side yesteryear, with a hugely experienced spine who held a lot of power. Right now have a pretty young side with lots of players who've won very little. I actually think it isn't such a bad time for someone unheralded in the PL but with good ideas to take the reins.

The risk for McKenna would be considerable. Not so much for Chelsea, who could just get rid after a couple of months. Even if it meant binning another season, it still wouldn't really threaten your position as one of the 10/12 richest clubs in the world.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 23/5/24

In fairness to McKenna I didn't realize he took over Ipswich in League One so that's a very impressive job he's done there. Nothing but an upward trajectory & it happened rapidly. And that kind of makes this even more silly. Just one season of Ipswich impressing in the PL (say 8-10th & great football) and suddenly he does look like an attractive coach to a Europa/CL hopeful team.

It's the AVB mistake again. Young manager who doesn't know what failure is yet making the jump only a year too soon.

posted on 23/5/24

Lol we played a lot of good football under Poch. We went head to head against the best and came out disappointed not to pick up 3 points.

posted on 23/5/24

Enzo Maresca is a serious contender to take over Chelsea. Release clause is near £10m. (@JPercyTelegraph @TeleFootball)


Maresca very close apparently

posted on 23/5/24

#Chelsea are prepared to offer their next head coach a minimum three-year guaranteed contract.

[via @JacobsBen]

posted on 23/5/24

Leicester fans want him out which says it all.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 23/5/24

comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 5 minutes ago
Owners only look at data

They don’t realise it’s not all data, human element. If you’ve gone from Pochettino who everyone liked to the Ipswich manager, the players ain’t gonna respect him one bit
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The data is the only thing that makes Pooch looks somewhat competent, though.....as the football side was dreadful for 9/10 of the season. Terrible selection, 0 in game management and so fragile to set plays and a refusal to fix it is the tip of the iceberg.

Did I miss the part were Pooch was good, like I know the season has only just finished but I only seem to recall dreadful football for the most part and then a month of something you could call adequate.
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And yet we would have finished 4th if the season had started in December. This team was clearly improving over the season and we were about to head into next season with great optimism. Especially with a new striker as well as players like Nkunku back.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 23/5/24

comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted 11 minutes ago
Enzo Maresca is a serious contender to take over Chelsea. Release clause is near £10m. (@JPercyTelegraph @TeleFootball)


Maresca very close apparently
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Wow. He'll do until about October I suppose.

posted on 23/5/24

comment by TLLL (U4640)
posted 15 minutes ago
Lol we played a lot of good football under Poch. We went head to head against the best and came out disappointed not to pick up 3 points.
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We certainly didn't play "Alot" of good football under Pooch. We maybe had 1 good 90mins all season, with then the odd 20-30mins that was then usually followed by some of the worse football witnessed in the 5 years.

And no Superb we weren't improving until the last month, before that was slightly more fortunate results....NOT improvement, massive difference. Some awful football was played from Dec till around mid-April. If you want to complain about the owners go for it, but lets not pretend Pooch was the second coming of prime Jose (thank you for whoever wrote this the other day)

comment by g7 (U12473)

posted on 23/5/24

Didn’t watch the championship but apparently Leicester really struggled 2nd half of the season despite having mostly a PL squad and a fair amount of Leicester fans wanted Maresca sacked.

Might be a decent coach, apparently worked with Lavia and Palmer in City’s youth team, but based on what I’ve read last couple of days do not want him.

McKenna seems the opposite, only read good things about his approach, and he took a league one squad through successive promotions without massive investment. Probably of the 3 people named by Law in the telegraph he would be my preferred choice at this stage.

Thomas Frank would probably be fine too. Brentford play hoofball now in order to survive the prem, but I think they were a fairly dominant championship team under him. Give him better players and he could likely get a tune out of them. Middle of the road for me.

Assuming the 4th unnamed candidate is De Zerbi, because it just makes sense that Brighton’s former Sporting Director rates the coach hired under his watch, even if Bloom lead the selection. I know many on here are sceptical, but personally rate De Zerbi so would he happy with him also.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 23/5/24

As someone who was very much against us getting De Zerbi before I think I'd now take him with open arms if these are the managers we're looking at

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 23/5/24

De Zerbi or Amorim for me.

I'd like to see how both McKenna and Maresca get on in the premier league before taking a punt on them.

Don't want Thomas Frank

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 23/5/24

We're not getting Amorim. Probably not even De Zerbi at this stage

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 23/5/24

If you want to complain about the owners go for it, but lets not pretend Pooch was the second coming of prime Jose (thank you for whoever wrote this the other day)
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Nobody in their right mind is claiming that.

posted on 23/5/24

Having read the not606 article on it those guys speak a lot more sense then the morons on here

posted on 23/5/24

Agree with pretty much all on here

https://www.not606.com/threads/well-i-didnt-see-that-coming.412810/

posted on 23/5/24

comment by TLLL (U4640)
posted 43 minutes ago
Lol we played a lot of good football under Poch. We went head to head against the best and came out disappointed not to pick up 3 points.
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People seem to have forgotten the state of us and how we finished last season before Pocn took over.

I need to understand why some people expected him to hit the ground running with a group of players that were in relegation form from Jan23 to end of that season.

I need to understand from those same people why the context of the way the owners assembled the squad, without input from Poch, plus the absurd injuries are not considered.

I neeed to understand what those same people think Poch should have achieved inhis first season with the youngest squad in the PL that has no leaders and no spine.

I need to understand why it is a good thing to lose a coach whose squad of players both liked and respected and improved with

I need to understand why John Terry endorsed Poch's coaching style, if indeed he was crap.

I need to understand that despite top coaches saying it takes at least 18 months to do so, why some people don't think it takes time to mould a new young group of players

I need to understand why the progress of Arsenal hi
Under Arteta does not give those people criticising Poch's first season pause.

I need to understand why a novice, inexperienced and unproven new manager is a step forward?

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 23/5/24

It's impressive the lengths the owners are going to avoiding saying three magic words that'll get the right guy in before the end of the week

posted on 23/5/24

My question is, what happens if Chalobah and Gallagher put their heels in the ground and refuse to leave? Chalobah has 4 years left to run and Gallagher can probably walk for free at the end of the season. It would be great to see some of our players stand up to these as$wipes.

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