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comment by De Zerbi Is Inevitable (U6489)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted 32 minutes ago
O
Chelsea will receive approximately £13m - £15m in bonuses from Real Madrid for winning the Champions League last night:-

✅£5m - £7m bonus payment for Eden Hazard
✅£8m bonus payment for Kepa Arrizabalaga
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Hazard never stops being an absolute legend
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Beats selling a hotel

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about 2 hours ago
Someone will pay £35 million for Maatsen if Dortmund don't. I'm surprised that Maresca wouldn't want to keep Maatsen as I think he can play that inverted fullback role as well as Cucurella.

I'd keep both Maatsen and Cucurella as our LB options and sell injury crock Ben Chilwell.
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We really don't know if Maatsen is any good or not or if he will become so. Poch obviously didn't fancy him for some reason and it seems Dortmund have a value cap on him, which is also a bit strange.
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Well he's played well in a team that came very close to winning the CL.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about 2 hours ago
Someone will pay £35 million for Maatsen if Dortmund don't. I'm surprised that Maresca wouldn't want to keep Maatsen as I think he can play that inverted fullback role as well as Cucurella.

I'd keep both Maatsen and Cucurella as our LB options and sell injury crock Ben Chilwell.
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We really don't know if Maatsen is any good or not or if he will become so. Poch obviously didn't fancy him for some reason and it seems Dortmund have a value cap on him, which is also a bit strange.
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Well he's played well in a team that came very close to winning the CL.
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I don't know how many games he has played or how many times you have watched him play full 90 minutes but he is unproven in the PL and Boswinga is a CL winner, so I don't your point carries substance.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about 2 hours ago
Someone will pay £35 million for Maatsen if Dortmund don't. I'm surprised that Maresca wouldn't want to keep Maatsen as I think he can play that inverted fullback role as well as Cucurella.

I'd keep both Maatsen and Cucurella as our LB options and sell injury crock Ben Chilwell.
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We really don't know if Maatsen is any good or not or if he will become so. Poch obviously didn't fancy him for some reason and it seems Dortmund have a value cap on him, which is also a bit strange.
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Well he's played well in a team that came very close to winning the CL.
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I don't know how many games he has played or how many times you have watched him play full 90 minutes but he is unproven in the PL and Boswinga is a CL winner, so I don't your point carries substance.
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He's been their mainstay LB since he went there. The general consensus that I've seen is that he's been good since he's been there. He's certainly been very good for the most part in the CL games I've watched him in.

Have you seen any reports saying that he hasn't been good out of interest ?

I think Cucurella and Maatsen are more similar in the way they play LB. Both inverting into midfield.

Chilwell offers a different option with his runs in behind which is valuable, except he can never stay fit.

Ideally imo we should have one LB who can invert and one who can run in behind, or, if possible, buy a star who can do the lot.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about an hour ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about 2 hours ago
Someone will pay £35 million for Maatsen if Dortmund don't. I'm surprised that Maresca wouldn't want to keep Maatsen as I think he can play that inverted fullback role as well as Cucurella.

I'd keep both Maatsen and Cucurella as our LB options and sell injury crock Ben Chilwell.
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We really don't know if Maatsen is any good or not or if he will become so. Poch obviously didn't fancy him for some reason and it seems Dortmund have a value cap on him, which is also a bit strange.
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Well he's played well in a team that came very close to winning the CL.
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I don't know how many games he has played or how many times you have watched him play full 90 minutes but he is unproven in the PL and Boswinga is a CL winner, so I don't your point carries substance.
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He's been their mainstay LB since he went there. The general consensus that I've seen is that he's been good since he's been there. He's certainly been very good for the most part in the CL games I've watched him in.

Have you seen any reports saying that he hasn't been good out of interest ?
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No, my point t is he is unproven either way. I don't see substantial evidence or sample size to make claims about how good or bad he will be.

comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
I thought we'd banned banned chat chat on this thread?
Randy should be enforcing that as we all agreed no more banned chat chat on here. Plenty of other places you can take it or just create another thread. Very simple.
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Stay on topic.

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 4 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 52 seconds ago
Forza - played a few rounds of Robinson Crusoe. It was a rough go as we had some very bad weather about 4 days straight and were suffering because of it. Morale was low and we were lacking in resources. Had to go exploring in hopes of finding useful treasure. Discovered a book that was a sad read which took our morale to the lowest point and ended up starving because we exhausted the supply from all of our ponds and trees. It was a sad end to our life. Wish we would’ve just drowned.
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did u bild a sturdy roof toot sweet?

think that is v impourtant
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Sure did but we had to move a couple of times on account of the earthquake taking out a sector that we used for resources. So kept going down by half and then once the weather dice came into play we kept losing wood because of all the snow.

I also found some gold but it was useless as I was on a deserted island.
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oh man

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 4 hours, 56 minutes ago
I was trapped for the last 45 mins or so. I am house sitting for a friend and their cat decided to sit on my lap when I was reading. Any time I moved it was met with a loud meow or a hiss and her face was facing mine. I decided to wait it out and see who died of starvation first.

I won
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sumbtimes u just gotta take em on mano a mano

they respecked u afterthat once u get outta the hospital

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about an hour ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about 2 hours ago
Someone will pay £35 million for Maatsen if Dortmund don't. I'm surprised that Maresca wouldn't want to keep Maatsen as I think he can play that inverted fullback role as well as Cucurella.

I'd keep both Maatsen and Cucurella as our LB options and sell injury crock Ben Chilwell.
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We really don't know if Maatsen is any good or not or if he will become so. Poch obviously didn't fancy him for some reason and it seems Dortmund have a value cap on him, which is also a bit strange.
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Well he's played well in a team that came very close to winning the CL.
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I don't know how many games he has played or how many times you have watched him play full 90 minutes but he is unproven in the PL and Boswinga is a CL winner, so I don't your point carries substance.
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He's been their mainstay LB since he went there. The general consensus that I've seen is that he's been good since he's been there. He's certainly been very good for the most part in the CL games I've watched him in.

Have you seen any reports saying that he hasn't been good out of interest ?
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No, my point t is he is unproven either way. I don't see substantial evidence or sample size to make claims about how good or bad he will be.
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How good or bad he will be for who though ? Do you mean for us specifically or in general?

comment by g7 (U12473)
posted 25 minutes ago
I think Cucurella and Maatsen are more similar in the way they play LB. Both inverting into midfield.

Chilwell offers a different option with his runs in behind which is valuable, except he can never stay fit.

Ideally imo we should have one LB who can invert and one who can run in behind, or, if possible, buy a star who can do the lot.
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From what I've gleaned from Maresca football (obviously still learning) it looks like fullbacks who can invert and join midfield when needed are going to be the priority. Not sure Chilwell really fits that mould at all plus the huge question marks over his injury record are another concern. Can see us moving Chilwell on if Maresca is here for any length of time.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about an hour ago
comment by g7 (U12473)
posted 25 minutes ago
I think Cucurella and Maatsen are more similar in the way they play LB. Both inverting into midfield.

Chilwell offers a different option with his runs in behind which is valuable, except he can never stay fit.

Ideally imo we should have one LB who can invert and one who can run in behind, or, if possible, buy a star who can do the lot.
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From what I've gleaned from Maresca football (obviously still learning) it looks like fullbacks who can invert and join midfield when needed are going to be the priority. Not sure Chilwell really fits that mould at all plus the huge question marks over his injury record are another concern. Can see us moving Chilwell on if Maresca is here for any length of time.
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We have all been pretty critical of Chilwell (me included), but if he can stay fit (perhaps a long shot) and at his best (not very often this season) he is a much better player than Cucurella. There’s no reason he can’t play as an inverted midfield player - even if he hasn’t played there previously. He’s a smart guy (for a footballer), so I’m sure he’d pick it up quickly. But of course his fitness remains a concern.

comment by De Zerbi Is Inevitable (U6489)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
I thought we'd banned banned chat chat on this thread?
Randy should be enforcing that as we all agreed no more banned chat chat on here. Plenty of other places you can take it or just create another thread. Very simple.
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Stay on topic.
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comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about an hour ago
comment by g7 (U12473)
posted 25 minutes ago
I think Cucurella and Maatsen are more similar in the way they play LB. Both inverting into midfield.

Chilwell offers a different option with his runs in behind which is valuable, except he can never stay fit.

Ideally imo we should have one LB who can invert and one who can run in behind, or, if possible, buy a star who can do the lot.
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From what I've gleaned from Maresca football (obviously still learning) it looks like fullbacks who can invert and join midfield when needed are going to be the priority. Not sure Chilwell really fits that mould at all plus the huge question marks over his injury record are another concern. Can see us moving Chilwell on if Maresca is here for any length of time.
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We have all been pretty critical of Chilwell (me included), but if he can stay fit (perhaps a long shot) and at his best (not very often this season) he is a much better player than Cucurella. There’s no reason he can’t play as an inverted midfield player - even if he hasn’t played there previously. He’s a smart guy (for a footballer), so I’m sure he’d pick it up quickly. But of course his fitness remains a concern.
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I'm not getting my hopes up

Maatsen is better than both Chilwell and Cucurella, so’s Lewis Hall

Chilwell should be first out the door this summer

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about 8 hours ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about an hour ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about 2 hours ago
Someone will pay £35 million for Maatsen if Dortmund don't. I'm surprised that Maresca wouldn't want to keep Maatsen as I think he can play that inverted fullback role as well as Cucurella.

I'd keep both Maatsen and Cucurella as our LB options and sell injury crock Ben Chilwell.
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We really don't know if Maatsen is any good or not or if he will become so. Poch obviously didn't fancy him for some reason and it seems Dortmund have a value cap on him, which is also a bit strange.
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Well he's played well in a team that came very close to winning the CL.
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I don't know how many games he has played or how many times you have watched him play full 90 minutes but he is unproven in the PL and Boswinga is a CL winner, so I don't your point carries substance.
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He's been their mainstay LB since he went there. The general consensus that I've seen is that he's been good since he's been there. He's certainly been very good for the most part in the CL games I've watched him in.

Have you seen any reports saying that he hasn't been good out of interest ?
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No, my point t is he is unproven either way. I don't see substantial evidence or sample size to make claims about how good or bad he will be.
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How good or bad he will be for who though ? Do you mean for us specifically or in general?
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At this stage, n general.

Zappacosta also made the Europa final...we never liked him either....

Poch never used Casadei either..despite him being almost ever present on the bench....who knows he might be brilliant

Emerson is another...got Euro success at West Ham last season

comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 7 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by De Zerbi Is Inevitable (U6489)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
I thought we'd banned banned chat chat on this thread?
Randy should be enforcing that as we all agreed no more banned chat chat on here. Plenty of other places you can take it or just create another thread. Very simple.
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Stay on topic.
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Think we banned fun banter chat on this thread. Used to be all about that before it became about arguing and moaning. At least numbers on here haven't dwindled as a result

comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 8 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted about an hour ago
comment by g7 (U12473)
posted 25 minutes ago
I think Cucurella and Maatsen are more similar in the way they play LB. Both inverting into midfield.

Chilwell offers a different option with his runs in behind which is valuable, except he can never stay fit.

Ideally imo we should have one LB who can invert and one who can run in behind, or, if possible, buy a star who can do the lot.
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From what I've gleaned from Maresca football (obviously still learning) it looks like fullbacks who can invert and join midfield when needed are going to be the priority. Not sure Chilwell really fits that mould at all plus the huge question marks over his injury record are another concern. Can see us moving Chilwell on if Maresca is here for any length of time.
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We have all been pretty critical of Chilwell (me included), but if he can stay fit (perhaps a long shot) and at his best (not very often this season) he is a much better player than Cucurella. There’s no reason he can’t play as an inverted midfield player - even if he hasn’t played there previously. He’s a smart guy (for a footballer), so I’m sure he’d pick it up quickly. But of course his fitness remains a concern.
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The problem is that Chilwell definitely can't stay fit, he's shown that over and over. He's undoubtedly a good player but I'm not sure how effective he'd be if asked to play in tighter spaces. His strengths seem to be his off the ball runs as opposed to being able to beat players on the ball when he gets forward. Cucurella by comparison has proved that he definitely can operate in those spaces and seems to come into his own if anything.

comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 7 hours, 32 minutes ago
Maatsen is better than both Chilwell and Cucurella, so’s Lewis Hall

Chilwell should be first out the door this summer
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I'd say it's difficult to know who's the best out of those mentioned but Maatsen has definitely made a case for himself based on what he's done at Dortmund this season. He looks like he belongs at CL level.

Why Poch decided not to play him is a mystery but we were doing well in preseason with Maatsen in the side and then when Maatsen was taken out of the side at the beginning of the season we had a terrible start and first few months of the season. Coincidence? Who knows.

Definitely agree that Chilwell needs to go though. Sad but true.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 7 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by De Zerbi Is Inevitable (U6489)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
I thought we'd banned banned chat chat on this thread?
Randy should be enforcing that as we all agreed no more banned chat chat on here. Plenty of other places you can take it or just create another thread. Very simple.
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Stay on topic.
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Think we banned fun banter chat on this thread. Used to be all about that before it became about arguing and moaning. At least numbers on here haven't dwindled as a result
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Haven glory days were miniclip pool tourneys and chess games. Nowadays we would have to make a new thread

Darts was a brief glimpse

comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted 30 minutes ago
Darts was a brief glimpse
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Into hell ?