I would say far to much and I wish they would both p iss off
why do people on this board think these men are good businessmen? Good businessmen don't go to court over personal vendettas.
Good businessmen don't go to court over personal vendettas.
MarkoLUFC, I understand your feelings re Bates and Harvey. But that last part of your point is not necesarily correct. There are plenty of false complaints brought by unscrupulous people against decent businessmen every year throughout the world. On many occasions people make false accusations.
Thankfully we have a legal system that allows evidence to be tested.
which would be fair enough if the accusations were false, but they're not. These things actually happened. You don't print the address of someone you've already been taken to court and lost over harassing them. You don't ask fans to go looking for them on the radio.
Bates just can't keep his mouth shut, he's done wrong and is now spending club money fighting against having done wrong out of stubbornness. It's costing the club a ridiculous amount of money and he's doing what he does best, mouthing off in court.
MarkoLUFC I'm not disputing your comments re Bates and Harvey, merely pointing out what I think is an incorrect claim.
you said it's not necessarily correct, but it is correct. I'm saying this particular instance is bates costing us money chasing his personal vendettas. The evidence being discussed shows he's harrassed Mr Levi even after losing the last harassment case.
He's a liability.
"There are plenty of false complaints brought by unscrupulous people against decent businessmen
every year throughout the world."
Eric, every man and his dog knows that Bates doesn't
fall anywhere close to the moniker 'decent businessman' - 'unscupulous' fits though.
'unscRupulous' probably fits even better...
and when was the last time you heard of any "false complains" against bates?
I hope that the judge rules in the Levis favour again
and forces Bates to pay out of his own private funds
and not his LUFC slush fund (read NW's transfer kitty).
Sadly, KB's mouth cannot be tamed.
and the court won't force him to pay out of his own money. Technically it's against the club since he used club media as his megaphone, so we're the ones that will suffer, as usual.
MarkoLUFC
You trying to be dense or does it come naturally? If you read my comment you see I agree with you on Bates...! It's probably because it's so rare (someone agreeing with you that is).
You decided to cause the pause between the two comments you made, by putting in a question mark, I am referring to the second part, the first being a question, the second a statement..
However you put it the statement 'Good businessmen don't go to court over personal vendettas' is incorrect, because they do.
This all makes a mockery of the fit and proper persons test.
The FL should exercise better governance in terms of runs or ruins football clubs it allows in its competitions.
Harvey is ineffective and incompetent in his role, admitting that he is uncomfortable with bates Programme notes. Harvey is meant to be responsible for the Programmes so he should use that responsibility to ensure we're not paying a "fortune " in legal costs (his words under oath yesterday).
Harvey has been through 3 admins now and is fortunate that Bradford admins were before 2004 otherwise he wouldn't pass the fit and proper test.
I hope people start to realize that what some of us have been saying for years - the club is not being properly run - is true and that fans should be demanding change from this regime.
Just read a piece on the bbc sports site regarding Lorimer, saying theres no place on the board ever for fan representation. I laughed at his 'people put a lot of money into the club, so they should decide what to do' statement. bates has put no money into the club ffs and Lorimer needs to get his tongue out of Bates'sarse
Why would a good businessman go to court over a personal vendetta?
MarkoLUFC
Depends who brings the action
Not all the bad ones get done and not only bad ones end up in court.
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"Vayrynen was a waste of money". Hypocrite.
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posted on 24/4/12
I would say far to much and I wish they would both p iss off
posted on 24/4/12
why do people on this board think these men are good businessmen? Good businessmen don't go to court over personal vendettas.
posted on 24/4/12
Good businessmen don't go to court over personal vendettas.
MarkoLUFC, I understand your feelings re Bates and Harvey. But that last part of your point is not necesarily correct. There are plenty of false complaints brought by unscrupulous people against decent businessmen every year throughout the world. On many occasions people make false accusations.
Thankfully we have a legal system that allows evidence to be tested.
posted on 24/4/12
which would be fair enough if the accusations were false, but they're not. These things actually happened. You don't print the address of someone you've already been taken to court and lost over harassing them. You don't ask fans to go looking for them on the radio.
Bates just can't keep his mouth shut, he's done wrong and is now spending club money fighting against having done wrong out of stubbornness. It's costing the club a ridiculous amount of money and he's doing what he does best, mouthing off in court.
posted on 24/4/12
MarkoLUFC I'm not disputing your comments re Bates and Harvey, merely pointing out what I think is an incorrect claim.
posted on 24/4/12
you said it's not necessarily correct, but it is correct. I'm saying this particular instance is bates costing us money chasing his personal vendettas. The evidence being discussed shows he's harrassed Mr Levi even after losing the last harassment case.
He's a liability.
posted on 24/4/12
"There are plenty of false complaints brought by unscrupulous people against decent businessmen
every year throughout the world."
Eric, every man and his dog knows that Bates doesn't
fall anywhere close to the moniker 'decent businessman' - 'unscupulous' fits though.
posted on 24/4/12
'unscRupulous' probably fits even better...
posted on 24/4/12
and when was the last time you heard of any "false complains" against bates?
posted on 24/4/12
I hope that the judge rules in the Levis favour again
and forces Bates to pay out of his own private funds
and not his LUFC slush fund (read NW's transfer kitty).
Sadly, KB's mouth cannot be tamed.
posted on 24/4/12
and the court won't force him to pay out of his own money. Technically it's against the club since he used club media as his megaphone, so we're the ones that will suffer, as usual.
posted on 25/4/12
MarkoLUFC
You trying to be dense or does it come naturally? If you read my comment you see I agree with you on Bates...! It's probably because it's so rare (someone agreeing with you that is).
You decided to cause the pause between the two comments you made, by putting in a question mark, I am referring to the second part, the first being a question, the second a statement..
However you put it the statement 'Good businessmen don't go to court over personal vendettas' is incorrect, because they do.
posted on 25/4/12
This all makes a mockery of the fit and proper persons test.
The FL should exercise better governance in terms of runs or ruins football clubs it allows in its competitions.
Harvey is ineffective and incompetent in his role, admitting that he is uncomfortable with bates Programme notes. Harvey is meant to be responsible for the Programmes so he should use that responsibility to ensure we're not paying a "fortune " in legal costs (his words under oath yesterday).
Harvey has been through 3 admins now and is fortunate that Bradford admins were before 2004 otherwise he wouldn't pass the fit and proper test.
I hope people start to realize that what some of us have been saying for years - the club is not being properly run - is true and that fans should be demanding change from this regime.
posted on 25/4/12
Just read a piece on the bbc sports site regarding Lorimer, saying theres no place on the board ever for fan representation. I laughed at his 'people put a lot of money into the club, so they should decide what to do' statement. bates has put no money into the club ffs and Lorimer needs to get his tongue out of Bates'sarse
posted on 25/4/12
Why would a good businessman go to court over a personal vendetta?
posted on 25/4/12
MarkoLUFC
Depends who brings the action
Not all the bad ones get done and not only bad ones end up in court.
posted on 25/4/12
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posted on 25/4/12
"Vayrynen was a waste of money". Hypocrite.
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