What people need to understand is also that most of these decisions are not the fault of the officials. Take for example the FA Cup final, there was no way the officials could have seen it and if you're not sure you can't give it. Officials need help and so far the people in high places haven't given them it.
I'm sure the officials would want it just as much as you do.
true Arab, you did.
wouldnt it be funny though if "that" decision evened itself out on Sunday and we got a dodgey goal at City to win the game?
fat chance!
giggs' effort against chelsea in the 2007 fa cup final crossed the line and was visible for all to see at first glance. chelsea went onto win the game. the point being sh.t happens. sometimes it goes for you, sometimes it doesn't.
Why are you against it Ole?
Steve Kean predicted goal-line technology would be introduced in 1991. He is convinced of that prediction, he will be right and you will all be wrong. At the very latest he predicts goal-line technology will be introduced in 2015.
It's 21st century we do not need goal line technology, we need video technology. You know even goal line technology will come under question one day. The officials(FA, FIFA and UEFA) are stoopid.
Sandy Brown. And I thought we were supposed to be the victim club? Poor Spurs<wag>
The technology is there! Fudging implement it!
I don't think the standard of refereeing has gone downhill personally, its just previous referees didn't have pundits and fans alike watching an incident 5 or 6 times from 4 different angles, in slow motion, so people are aware of how many mistakes are made, when they weren't previously.
Refereeing is never going to be perfect, they will always get decisions wrong and some of them will have massive consequences, that's something we have to accept.
Goalline technology is an absolute must though, even if it's just a quick watch of the TV, that would be better than we get now. 'Goals' such as Carrolls still wouldn't be given because they are inclusive, but ones such as Mata's and Malouda's would be sorted out correctly. It's not perfect better than the current situation surely?
I'm intrigued Ole, why are you against it?
I'm would assume every fan would want correct decisions so I assume you value the controversy?
To me there are plenty of decisions on football that fall under the category of judgement call that will continue to provide controversy, debate and passionate response. Whether a shot is a goal isn't judgement, it's fact.
I personally think the refereeing has definately gone downhill, refs and linesmen are there to make the decisions that are correct that they should be able to see but they can't.
But they've always made mistakes Hajifur,they're just more obvious now because of the increased coverage.
no some refs like ovrebo see definate claims for pens but don't give anything deliberately. They could easily give them but for some reason don't. I have seen many man utd games that refs don't give even if 70000+ fans and the tv and the opposition players knows its a penalty.
It's so frustrating how slow football is moving forward. Even Cricket is more forward thinking than football and that's pretty amazing to me, but I guess that's what you get with a dinosaur dictator like Blatter in charge.
i am one of the few people left who is anti technology in football
very slippery slope in my opinion and the skumbag managers will not settle for just goal line and will eventually press for every single decision to be reviewed
NO to Goal Line Technology
Football is one of the only organic sports left.
If we introduce one then it will only be a matter of time before another is introduced.
Controversy and debates are a product of the game.
Just leave the game as it is.
Slippery slope to what? As long as the only reviewable decisions are absolutes not opinions then where can it go? Just need to make sure football does not start reviewing talking points as opposed to facts.
makes it a lot harder to fix games I guess
I like debate Metro, love it in fact - makes the game so much more interesting. But you debate penalties, free kicks, offsides, sending offs - goal line technology resolves an absolute, goal or no goal.
True but you only have to look at other sports to see that if you give technology an inch, the powers that be will keep running with it.
GLT is just not plausible. At what point can the game be stopped? What if someone puts in a rebound but the ref had already blew his whistle? What if the opposition counter attack and score - would it be ruled out?
Too messy for the beautiful game
At what point can the game be stopped? What if someone puts in a rebound but the ref had already blew his whistle? What if the opposition counter attack and score - would it be ruled out?
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Great point
In my mind it's no goal until proved otherwise. I'm no techie but I'd like to think that microchips placed at know places within a ball could pin point it to within mm thus you should be able to an instant yes/no in a refs ear. Game carries on, of the ref gets a yes in his ear then he blows the whistle.
Maybe I'm simplifying but surely in 2012 we can find a solution for an instantaneous decision.
Point taken on the technology creep, that's why I think it should absolutely be restricted to absolute decisions.
@Metro
None of that would happen because the brief for the developers of the tech stated that it had to respond to a goal within a second and inform the ref, there'll be no rebound, no running up the field because the goal would already have been awarded already.
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posted on 9/5/12
What people need to understand is also that most of these decisions are not the fault of the officials. Take for example the FA Cup final, there was no way the officials could have seen it and if you're not sure you can't give it. Officials need help and so far the people in high places haven't given them it.
I'm sure the officials would want it just as much as you do.
posted on 9/5/12
true Arab, you did.
wouldnt it be funny though if "that" decision evened itself out on Sunday and we got a dodgey goal at City to win the game?
fat chance!
posted on 9/5/12
giggs' effort against chelsea in the 2007 fa cup final crossed the line and was visible for all to see at first glance. chelsea went onto win the game. the point being sh.t happens. sometimes it goes for you, sometimes it doesn't.
posted on 9/5/12
Why are you against it Ole?
posted on 9/5/12
Steve Kean predicted goal-line technology would be introduced in 1991. He is convinced of that prediction, he will be right and you will all be wrong. At the very latest he predicts goal-line technology will be introduced in 2015.
posted on 9/5/12
It's 21st century we do not need goal line technology, we need video technology. You know even goal line technology will come under question one day. The officials(FA, FIFA and UEFA) are stoopid.
posted on 9/5/12
Sandy Brown. And I thought we were supposed to be the victim club? Poor Spurs<wag>
posted on 9/5/12
The technology is there! Fudging implement it!
posted on 9/5/12
I don't think the standard of refereeing has gone downhill personally, its just previous referees didn't have pundits and fans alike watching an incident 5 or 6 times from 4 different angles, in slow motion, so people are aware of how many mistakes are made, when they weren't previously.
Refereeing is never going to be perfect, they will always get decisions wrong and some of them will have massive consequences, that's something we have to accept.
Goalline technology is an absolute must though, even if it's just a quick watch of the TV, that would be better than we get now. 'Goals' such as Carrolls still wouldn't be given because they are inclusive, but ones such as Mata's and Malouda's would be sorted out correctly. It's not perfect better than the current situation surely?
posted on 9/5/12
I'm intrigued Ole, why are you against it?
I'm would assume every fan would want correct decisions so I assume you value the controversy?
To me there are plenty of decisions on football that fall under the category of judgement call that will continue to provide controversy, debate and passionate response. Whether a shot is a goal isn't judgement, it's fact.
posted on 9/5/12
I personally think the refereeing has definately gone downhill, refs and linesmen are there to make the decisions that are correct that they should be able to see but they can't.
posted on 9/5/12
But they've always made mistakes Hajifur,they're just more obvious now because of the increased coverage.
posted on 9/5/12
no some refs like ovrebo see definate claims for pens but don't give anything deliberately. They could easily give them but for some reason don't. I have seen many man utd games that refs don't give even if 70000+ fans and the tv and the opposition players knows its a penalty.
posted on 9/5/12
It's so frustrating how slow football is moving forward. Even Cricket is more forward thinking than football and that's pretty amazing to me, but I guess that's what you get with a dinosaur dictator like Blatter in charge.
posted on 10/5/12
i am one of the few people left who is anti technology in football
very slippery slope in my opinion and the skumbag managers will not settle for just goal line and will eventually press for every single decision to be reviewed
posted on 10/5/12
NO to Goal Line Technology
Football is one of the only organic sports left.
If we introduce one then it will only be a matter of time before another is introduced.
Controversy and debates are a product of the game.
Just leave the game as it is.
posted on 10/5/12
Slippery slope to what? As long as the only reviewable decisions are absolutes not opinions then where can it go? Just need to make sure football does not start reviewing talking points as opposed to facts.
posted on 10/5/12
makes it a lot harder to fix games I guess
posted on 10/5/12
I like debate Metro, love it in fact - makes the game so much more interesting. But you debate penalties, free kicks, offsides, sending offs - goal line technology resolves an absolute, goal or no goal.
posted on 10/5/12
True but you only have to look at other sports to see that if you give technology an inch, the powers that be will keep running with it.
GLT is just not plausible. At what point can the game be stopped? What if someone puts in a rebound but the ref had already blew his whistle? What if the opposition counter attack and score - would it be ruled out?
Too messy for the beautiful game
posted on 10/5/12
At what point can the game be stopped? What if someone puts in a rebound but the ref had already blew his whistle? What if the opposition counter attack and score - would it be ruled out?
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Great point
posted on 10/5/12
In my mind it's no goal until proved otherwise. I'm no techie but I'd like to think that microchips placed at know places within a ball could pin point it to within mm thus you should be able to an instant yes/no in a refs ear. Game carries on, of the ref gets a yes in his ear then he blows the whistle.
Maybe I'm simplifying but surely in 2012 we can find a solution for an instantaneous decision.
Point taken on the technology creep, that's why I think it should absolutely be restricted to absolute decisions.
posted on 10/5/12
@Metro
None of that would happen because the brief for the developers of the tech stated that it had to respond to a goal within a second and inform the ref, there'll be no rebound, no running up the field because the goal would already have been awarded already.
posted on 10/5/12
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