Would he have to be 'great' to play for NI though? While he hasn't pulled up any trees he has scored in a 1/4 final & 1/2 final of the Champion's League.
Of course the jury is out on just how good the fella can be until we see what he can do as a 1st team regular in a Premier league team but to suggest than he wouldn't have been playing regularly for NI if he'd opted for them is a joke.
Dublondain, in fairness i don't think any ROI fans are saying that Gibson is a "great" player. Unless he improves over the coming years he will never be good enough to be a regular in our side
he needs a proper run of games. All players do before we can judge them properly. He improved as the season went on last year and had a few good performances.
The NI fans like to jump on this kind of thing, but like most of the cr#p they come out with, this may come back to bite them.
I'm just a bit of a pessimist.
But at least we, as ROI fans, can be realistic about the prospects of our players (i.e. we know that certain players like Doyle are class, but others like McShane are not, and players like Gibson need to improve).
Most NI fans just cant seem to admit that their players are, on the whole, poor.
NI would have had Gibson in every squad if he stuck with them, no doubt about it.
Good points there Dublondain. If anything we are too critical of most of our players.
Not as bad as Dunphy or Giles on RTE all the same!!!
Compare their analysis with the BBC NIreland pundits after NIreland matches!!!
They remind me of Worthington always seeing "positives" no matter what the performance and result.
Theres a very thin line between being Optimistic and hopeful and being delusional!!!!
Still cant get past the fact he would be well behind Davis and Brunt in our team ?
No surprise really
Gibson, Davis and Brunt......3 average players....one trying to prove he is not like Darren Potter, the other two happy in their mediocrity.
Derek stop kidding yourself. Davis only plays in the SPL and coudn't make it in the Premiership .
Brunt plays for West Brom!!
What have either of them done lately for NIreland.
As Dublondain said Brunt, Davis and Gibson are all average players. All roughly the same standard.
If Worthington is willing to select a teenager who has never made a first team appearence for Wolves what makes you think he wouldn't select a player who has played nearly 50 times for Man Utd and scored a goal in the Champions league Semi-Final!!!
Here are the NI teams so far in the Euro qualifiers:
v Serbia - Camp, Cathcart, McAuley, Hughes, J Evans, C Evans, Baird, Clingan, Gorman, Brunt, Lafferty
v Slovenia (WP) - Camp, Cathcart, McAuley, Craigan, J. Evans, C. Evans, Baird, Clingan, McCann, Brunt, Feeney
v Faroes - Taylor, McAuley, Jonathan Evans, Craigan, Hughes, Baird, Davis, McGinn, Brunt, Feeney, Lafferty
v Italy - Taylor, McAuley, Hughes, Craigan, J Evans, Brunt , Baird, Davis, McCann , Feeney, Healy
v Slovenia (away) - Taylor, McAuley, Cathcart, Craigan, Baird, Davis, McCann, Healy, Feeney, Brunt, Hughes
Gibson would've played in every one of those games if he was available to Worthington. That's without taking friendlies into account. Take a look at your team and tell me you honestly believe that they could afford to leave out a Manchester United player (all be it fringe) with Champion's League experience. Do you in all seriousness think Darron Gibson wouldn't be a regular in the NI team?! Like really???!!!
Looking at the players Worthington has at his disposal i kind of feel sorry for them in a way.
Craigan,Cathcart,Baird,Mc Cann, Feeney,Healy - good god and these are all regulars!!
Was obvious Gibson, O'Shea and Brown would go, I forcast this on the old 606 lol..................
Obscurity beckons lol.....................
Yawn...
Yeah regular Premiership football . They're "finished" now alright
^^^^^Yip slippery slode to the Championship lol..............
Has Gibson actually gone to Sunderland??? I was watching Sky Sports News there and they said O'Shea and Brown had gone, but not a word on Gibbo.
Gibson won't be going anywhere until one of Sneijder or Nasri are signed
Simple case of Fergie making sure he doesn't make himself short of numbers.
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posted on 7/7/11
Would he have to be 'great' to play for NI though? While he hasn't pulled up any trees he has scored in a 1/4 final & 1/2 final of the Champion's League.
Of course the jury is out on just how good the fella can be until we see what he can do as a 1st team regular in a Premier league team but to suggest than he wouldn't have been playing regularly for NI if he'd opted for them is a joke.
posted on 7/7/11
Dublondain, in fairness i don't think any ROI fans are saying that Gibson is a "great" player. Unless he improves over the coming years he will never be good enough to be a regular in our side
posted on 7/7/11
he needs a proper run of games. All players do before we can judge them properly. He improved as the season went on last year and had a few good performances.
The NI fans like to jump on this kind of thing, but like most of the cr#p they come out with, this may come back to bite them.
posted on 7/7/11
I'm just a bit of a pessimist.
But at least we, as ROI fans, can be realistic about the prospects of our players (i.e. we know that certain players like Doyle are class, but others like McShane are not, and players like Gibson need to improve).
Most NI fans just cant seem to admit that their players are, on the whole, poor.
NI would have had Gibson in every squad if he stuck with them, no doubt about it.
posted on 7/7/11
Good points there Dublondain. If anything we are too critical of most of our players.
Not as bad as Dunphy or Giles on RTE all the same!!!
Compare their analysis with the BBC NIreland pundits after NIreland matches!!!
They remind me of Worthington always seeing "positives" no matter what the performance and result.
Theres a very thin line between being Optimistic and hopeful and being delusional!!!!
posted on 7/7/11
Still cant get past the fact he would be well behind Davis and Brunt in our team ?
No surprise really
posted on 7/7/11
Gibson, Davis and Brunt......3 average players....one trying to prove he is not like Darren Potter, the other two happy in their mediocrity.
posted on 7/7/11
Derek stop kidding yourself. Davis only plays in the SPL and coudn't make it in the Premiership .
Brunt plays for West Brom!!
What have either of them done lately for NIreland.
As Dublondain said Brunt, Davis and Gibson are all average players. All roughly the same standard.
If Worthington is willing to select a teenager who has never made a first team appearence for Wolves what makes you think he wouldn't select a player who has played nearly 50 times for Man Utd and scored a goal in the Champions league Semi-Final!!!
posted on 7/7/11
Here are the NI teams so far in the Euro qualifiers:
v Serbia - Camp, Cathcart, McAuley, Hughes, J Evans, C Evans, Baird, Clingan, Gorman, Brunt, Lafferty
v Slovenia (WP) - Camp, Cathcart, McAuley, Craigan, J. Evans, C. Evans, Baird, Clingan, McCann, Brunt, Feeney
v Faroes - Taylor, McAuley, Jonathan Evans, Craigan, Hughes, Baird, Davis, McGinn, Brunt, Feeney, Lafferty
v Italy - Taylor, McAuley, Hughes, Craigan, J Evans, Brunt , Baird, Davis, McCann , Feeney, Healy
v Slovenia (away) - Taylor, McAuley, Cathcart, Craigan, Baird, Davis, McCann, Healy, Feeney, Brunt, Hughes
Gibson would've played in every one of those games if he was available to Worthington. That's without taking friendlies into account. Take a look at your team and tell me you honestly believe that they could afford to leave out a Manchester United player (all be it fringe) with Champion's League experience. Do you in all seriousness think Darron Gibson wouldn't be a regular in the NI team?! Like really???!!!
posted on 7/7/11
Looking at the players Worthington has at his disposal i kind of feel sorry for them in a way.
Craigan,Cathcart,Baird,Mc Cann, Feeney,Healy - good god and these are all regulars!!
posted on 7/7/11
Was obvious Gibson, O'Shea and Brown would go, I forcast this on the old 606 lol..................
Obscurity beckons lol.....................
posted on 7/7/11
Yawn...
Yeah regular Premiership football . They're "finished" now alright
posted on 7/7/11
^^^^^Yip slippery slode to the Championship lol..............
posted on 7/7/11
Has Gibson actually gone to Sunderland??? I was watching Sky Sports News there and they said O'Shea and Brown had gone, but not a word on Gibbo.
posted on 7/7/11
Gibson won't be going anywhere until one of Sneijder or Nasri are signed
Simple case of Fergie making sure he doesn't make himself short of numbers.
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