I think everyone will agree that the DQ was harsh.
However, the punishment resulted because of the current level of incompetence of the McLaren team. They knew they had made a mistake but still let Lewis put in a fast lap.
Sam Michael then has the nerve to go to the stewards and try to convince them that the error was somehow outside of the team's control. How on earth can anyone with any semblance of common sense try to argue that point?
The McLaren team and it's leadership is the joke of F1 and someone needs to get a grip.
I would suggest that the only good thing to emerge from the debacle is that it has proven once and for all what a lot of us have been saying all along regarding the reputations of the McLaren drivers regarding their ability to manage tyres.
There only consistent thing in F1 right now is the Mclaren cockups and a team principal displaying extreme man love for one of his drivers!
One thing's for sure you can't back a donkey to win a horse race!
Not to descend into conspiracy theories but it just seems mad that the team can design and build a car which should have (and would have) been challenging for the race win in each of the races so far can also have such a bunch of comedy mechanics when it comes to pit lane action.
I don't believe all the conspiracy theory's but that penalty was bull s@&@! I don't think Hamilton has helped himself in his F1 career, he has definitely done and said things in his short career he shouldn't have. However he is clearly one of the best drivers around at the moment (if not the best). But this year he has knuckled down and got on with it. Even after that stupid punishment he didn't winge he just got on and did a great job. I've always loved his driving but not his personality, now he's proving me wrong. Well done Lewis!
Wish Jenson carried on as he started the season (always been a Button fan after the legend that is Mr Herbert retired). But at least the other English driver (who I admit is better than him) is becoming likeable now. Sort the mistakes out Mclaren and the stewards/FIA and let's hope one of our boys do it. (see it is possible to support both!)
comments by MikeyC (U13720)
“I don't think Hamilton has helped himself in his F1 career, he has definitely done and said things in his short career he shouldn't have.”
“I've always loved his driving but not his personality”
“always been a Button fan after the legend that is Mr Herbert retired”
“the other English driver”
“is becoming likeable now”
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You pompous fool.
You are just like a number of other people that judge Lewis Hamilton according to some arbitrary standards that you have dreamt up overnight. Lewis does not exist purely to please people like you and somehow achieve the status of being “acceptable as one of Mikey C's best mates”. Although he is obviously deeply upset that over his short 6 year career he has apparently failed you to a significant extent.
Maybe you would be happier if he broke the FIA rule regarding media access and refused to give any interviews. Maybe he should “know his place”.
Button fans – what a joke you are. He never had any fans before Lewis Hamilton came along.
Fernando Alonso became popular because he beat Schumacher. Button was a non entity, a useless playboy. A highly paid useless playboy.
Lets lay the cards on the table. Lewis will never ever get a fair shake from people like you. Always looking for something critical. Always judging him alone by some standards that you refuse to apply to others. But he has had to put up with that sort of nonsense since he was 8 years old so I doubt if it worries him.
Button fans
@ MikeyC
I am a Lewis fan, I like his agressive driving style and the fact he has ruffled a few feathers in the paddock. I will admit that I've probably overlooked a few occasions where he was probably in the wrong but on the whole, I just think his biggest crime is want to race agressively.
Last season you could sense his frustration with the car and he was doing a good job making it perform better than expected. As we know he had many a visit to the stewards but that's history. This season he genuinely seems happier even while things haven't gone his way which is a good attitude to have. It was quite refreshing though last season when he said one or two things he shouldn't as it showed he was indeed a normal person and not just a manufactured robot who must only say what his PR man tells him.
Anyway, the punishment he received seemed incredibly harsh for the crime - would another driver who'd done the same been punished equally? We'll never know but my gut feeling tells me that they wouldn't but that's another story and I'm not going to discuss conspiracy on here.
Your right, that came out completely wrong. Sorry, it was my birthday and I'd had a few. I'm sorry but I'm a people person and love an underdog, hence since I first got into F1 I always supported Jonny Herbert. He was never a great driver but had the worst luck I've ever seen yet always found the best in every situation and got on with it.
Hamilton is definetly the better driver and I'm sure he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him and rightly so. However just cos he is one of the two best drivers At the mo (in my opinion, Alonso is the other) I will always root for Button ahead of him.
Sorry, if that makes me a pompous fool, and I admit my last post sounded that way, then so be it. Either way! I hope one of the Brits win the drivers title.
Thanks MikeC for that.
I also apologise to you for my angry response which was also influenced by a few drinks.
Cheers.
So we can conclude, alcohol-induced 606'ing is always an angry affair. Don't drink and 606 - it just ends in tears!
I'm glad we all came to a pleasant and civil conclusion in time for the weekend. Nice to see everyone is happy on a Friday
And to continue with this trend, @ MikeyC, happy-belated birthday.
All's well that ends well! And here's to not drinking and 606ing!
im surprised schumacer was blamed for that incident. i thought senna left him with nowhere to go - he basically changed his line to block senna and then braked early for the corner.
im surprised schumacer was blamed for that incident. i thought senna left him with nowhere to go - he basically changed his line to block senna and then braked early for the corner.
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im surprised schumacer was blamed for that incident. i thought senna left him with nowhere to go - he basically changed his line to block schumacer and then braked early for the corner.
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posted on 15/5/12
I think everyone will agree that the DQ was harsh.
However, the punishment resulted because of the current level of incompetence of the McLaren team. They knew they had made a mistake but still let Lewis put in a fast lap.
Sam Michael then has the nerve to go to the stewards and try to convince them that the error was somehow outside of the team's control. How on earth can anyone with any semblance of common sense try to argue that point?
The McLaren team and it's leadership is the joke of F1 and someone needs to get a grip.
I would suggest that the only good thing to emerge from the debacle is that it has proven once and for all what a lot of us have been saying all along regarding the reputations of the McLaren drivers regarding their ability to manage tyres.
posted on 15/5/12
There only consistent thing in F1 right now is the Mclaren cockups and a team principal displaying extreme man love for one of his drivers!
One thing's for sure you can't back a donkey to win a horse race!
posted on 15/5/12
Not to descend into conspiracy theories but it just seems mad that the team can design and build a car which should have (and would have) been challenging for the race win in each of the races so far can also have such a bunch of comedy mechanics when it comes to pit lane action.
posted on 15/5/12
I don't believe all the conspiracy theory's but that penalty was bull s@&@! I don't think Hamilton has helped himself in his F1 career, he has definitely done and said things in his short career he shouldn't have. However he is clearly one of the best drivers around at the moment (if not the best). But this year he has knuckled down and got on with it. Even after that stupid punishment he didn't winge he just got on and did a great job. I've always loved his driving but not his personality, now he's proving me wrong. Well done Lewis!
Wish Jenson carried on as he started the season (always been a Button fan after the legend that is Mr Herbert retired). But at least the other English driver (who I admit is better than him) is becoming likeable now. Sort the mistakes out Mclaren and the stewards/FIA and let's hope one of our boys do it. (see it is possible to support both!)
posted on 16/5/12
comments by MikeyC (U13720)
“I don't think Hamilton has helped himself in his F1 career, he has definitely done and said things in his short career he shouldn't have.”
“I've always loved his driving but not his personality”
“always been a Button fan after the legend that is Mr Herbert retired”
“the other English driver”
“is becoming likeable now”
----------------------------------------------------–
You pompous fool.
You are just like a number of other people that judge Lewis Hamilton according to some arbitrary standards that you have dreamt up overnight. Lewis does not exist purely to please people like you and somehow achieve the status of being “acceptable as one of Mikey C's best mates”. Although he is obviously deeply upset that over his short 6 year career he has apparently failed you to a significant extent.
Maybe you would be happier if he broke the FIA rule regarding media access and refused to give any interviews. Maybe he should “know his place”.
Button fans – what a joke you are. He never had any fans before Lewis Hamilton came along.
Fernando Alonso became popular because he beat Schumacher. Button was a non entity, a useless playboy. A highly paid useless playboy.
Lets lay the cards on the table. Lewis will never ever get a fair shake from people like you. Always looking for something critical. Always judging him alone by some standards that you refuse to apply to others. But he has had to put up with that sort of nonsense since he was 8 years old so I doubt if it worries him.
Button fans
posted on 16/5/12
@ MikeyC
I am a Lewis fan, I like his agressive driving style and the fact he has ruffled a few feathers in the paddock. I will admit that I've probably overlooked a few occasions where he was probably in the wrong but on the whole, I just think his biggest crime is want to race agressively.
Last season you could sense his frustration with the car and he was doing a good job making it perform better than expected. As we know he had many a visit to the stewards but that's history. This season he genuinely seems happier even while things haven't gone his way which is a good attitude to have. It was quite refreshing though last season when he said one or two things he shouldn't as it showed he was indeed a normal person and not just a manufactured robot who must only say what his PR man tells him.
Anyway, the punishment he received seemed incredibly harsh for the crime - would another driver who'd done the same been punished equally? We'll never know but my gut feeling tells me that they wouldn't but that's another story and I'm not going to discuss conspiracy on here.
posted on 18/5/12
Your right, that came out completely wrong. Sorry, it was my birthday and I'd had a few. I'm sorry but I'm a people person and love an underdog, hence since I first got into F1 I always supported Jonny Herbert. He was never a great driver but had the worst luck I've ever seen yet always found the best in every situation and got on with it.
Hamilton is definetly the better driver and I'm sure he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him and rightly so. However just cos he is one of the two best drivers At the mo (in my opinion, Alonso is the other) I will always root for Button ahead of him.
Sorry, if that makes me a pompous fool, and I admit my last post sounded that way, then so be it. Either way! I hope one of the Brits win the drivers title.
posted on 18/5/12
Thanks MikeC for that.
I also apologise to you for my angry response which was also influenced by a few drinks.
Cheers.
posted on 18/5/12
So we can conclude, alcohol-induced 606'ing is always an angry affair. Don't drink and 606 - it just ends in tears!
I'm glad we all came to a pleasant and civil conclusion in time for the weekend. Nice to see everyone is happy on a Friday
And to continue with this trend, @ MikeyC, happy-belated birthday.
posted on 18/5/12
All's well that ends well! And here's to not drinking and 606ing!
posted on 19/5/12
im surprised schumacer was blamed for that incident. i thought senna left him with nowhere to go - he basically changed his line to block senna and then braked early for the corner.
posted on 19/5/12
im surprised schumacer was blamed for that incident. i thought senna left him with nowhere to go - he basically changed his line to block senna and then braked early for the corner.
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im surprised schumacer was blamed for that incident. i thought senna left him with nowhere to go - he basically changed his line to block schumacer and then braked early for the corner.
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