Yes i have a united bias and i really wanted to see a squad built round Rio carrick scholes barry
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Sorry but a midfield based around Carrick Scholes and Barry would have absolutely no energy in it. Our end of season form should have told you that.
I said a squad built around the above. I would play a centre mid of carrick barry and lampard. Scholes would be an ideal sixty minute man at the end or start depending on what we were doing attacking wise.
Immaterial anyway because no united midfielders will go.
carrickature
I wouldn't have Barry or Lampard anywhere near an England team.
Time for new blood, the old has and never will perform for England.
What Roy needs to do is follow the way Germany went in the last world cup.
If the likes of Terry, Gerrard, Lampard and Barry are playing for England in the Euros, I will not be watching, I will be painting the walls in my house and watching them dry.
You want to build a squad around United and City players even though both our teams didn't even qualify for the second round of the Champions League. At least the Chelsea players are going into the tournament on a high with the knowledge that they beat Napoli and Barcelona, teams containing players we may well meet in the competition.
Roy just has to pick the most in form players and this team for me would get to the Semi's at least.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Terry Cole
Carrick Barry
Lampard
Walcott Rooney Young
(Johnson has played in the same Chelsea team as Terry and Terry, Cahill and Cole have played together this season and kept a clean sheet against Barcelona)
I agree. If the focal point of the team the same old terry fat frank Steve me trio then i really struggle to have any interest in the team. Sad but true.
Roy just has to pick the most in form players and this team for me would get to the Semi's at least.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Terry Cole
Carrick Barry
Lampard
Walcott Rooney Young
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No it will not get to the semis, it will not even get out of the group.
Vidicschin
Why not? The defence is solid, we have great midfield protection and pace up front to help Rooney.
barry was diabolical at the last world cup. ozil ran rings around him.
Its a shame really. After the last world cup you would think thinks would even slightly.
I feel for Carrick he's been the best in his position this season(don't forget schooling Lampard in the CL last year)but there's just no way he would make it into the squad with Gerrard, Lampard, Parker and Barry as certs to go.
The criticism is that he is not good enough but surely if he is good enough for the spine of a team that has dominated PL and CL in recent years then he is good enough for Eng.
Terry going in a non-captain capacity
Lampard Milner Barry Gerrard
We have learnt zip from the last WC it seems
comment by funrob (U9808)
posted 5 minutes ago
Vidicschin
Why not? The defence is solid,
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It doesn't matter how solid your defence is, if your midfield gets over run, and can not keep possession, you will not win the game. There is no creativity in that midfield.
And Rooney is not playing in the first two games.
So unless it's full of utd players your not interested?
I will hate to see Terry, Gerrard, Lampard etc play, but unfortunately the alternatives are injured, off form or hardly played this season. We have to set up defensively and hope to snatch a goal IMO - our squad is in tatters.
comment by King Luis Suarez - I might be fick but I can spell DEEEEENCH!!! (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
So unless it's full of utd players your not interested?
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Moron, who has said it should be full of United players?
Please learn how to read before gobbing off.
There isn't a whole lot of creativity in United's midfield but we still score goals. Chances will come from Walcott and Young. Lampard has creativity (did you see that pass for Ramires against Barcelona?)
We will probably draw our first 2 games and need to beat Ukraine to qualify (once Rooney is back) and the team I stated is more than good enough to do that.
Out of interest Vidicschin, what would your ideal team be?
Its not the lack of united players. Its the depressing line up of old failures. What's exciting about that. They Brent suddenly going to start playing well together in their early thirties.
comment by King Luis Suarez - I might be fick but I can spell DEEEEENCH!!! (U1695) posted 1 minute ago
So unless it's full of utd players your not interested?
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Hard to be interested if we just take the same midfielders who were carp at the last WC
Nothing to do with United players
Chances will come from Walcott and Young. Lampard has creativity (did you see that pass for Ramires against Barcelona?)
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I know we have very little in the way of alternatives, but Walcott is only really effective against a high line of defence, running in behind them from the wing. He's not a conventional winger in that his style of play isn't to take on his man. Young struggles to beat his man at times, too.
All the opposition will have to do is set up deep and pressure our wingers and slow Lampard and all of a sudden our best player has no supply. Rooney is only good up top on his own with decent service, and he just won't get that playing for England. He needs to play deeper to affect our general play.
Lampard has creativity (did you see that pass for Ramires against Barcelona?)
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Wow, he made one pass.
Tell me, have you ever watched England?
Lampard is a goalscoring midfielder, who has had his best days. he is nothing more than that. He is not creative, he can not keep possession, and he does not set the tempo of games.
But Vidicschin, who else do we have? Wilshere is one possibility but he's injured. Cleverley is another but he's not quite at the level required. Maybe Brazil will be his opportunity. And as for Lampard, Bastian Sweinsteiger himself today said that Lampard was to England what Xabi Alonso is to Spain. I'm not so blinkered to my my love of United that I can't see how good a player he is.
As for his age, who's to say he's past his best? He is super fit and these days players like him can be brilliant until their late 30's. Have faith because football is a funny old game.
And as for Lampard, Bastian Sweinsteiger himself today said that Lampard was to England what Xabi Alonso is to Spain.
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Then might I suggest that he is taking the pee. Either that or you are.
In fact I find that one of the most laughable comments I have ever heard.
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I'm not so blinkered to my my love of United that I can't see how good a player he is.
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Lampard has been good for Chelsea, not the last two seasons by the way, but never has he been good for England.
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posted on 16/5/12
Yes i have a united bias and i really wanted to see a squad built round Rio carrick scholes barry
........................
Sorry but a midfield based around Carrick Scholes and Barry would have absolutely no energy in it. Our end of season form should have told you that.
posted on 16/5/12
I said a squad built around the above. I would play a centre mid of carrick barry and lampard. Scholes would be an ideal sixty minute man at the end or start depending on what we were doing attacking wise.
Immaterial anyway because no united midfielders will go.
posted on 16/5/12
carrickature
I wouldn't have Barry or Lampard anywhere near an England team.
Time for new blood, the old has and never will perform for England.
What Roy needs to do is follow the way Germany went in the last world cup.
If the likes of Terry, Gerrard, Lampard and Barry are playing for England in the Euros, I will not be watching, I will be painting the walls in my house and watching them dry.
posted on 16/5/12
You want to build a squad around United and City players even though both our teams didn't even qualify for the second round of the Champions League. At least the Chelsea players are going into the tournament on a high with the knowledge that they beat Napoli and Barcelona, teams containing players we may well meet in the competition.
Roy just has to pick the most in form players and this team for me would get to the Semi's at least.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Terry Cole
Carrick Barry
Lampard
Walcott Rooney Young
(Johnson has played in the same Chelsea team as Terry and Terry, Cahill and Cole have played together this season and kept a clean sheet against Barcelona)
posted on 16/5/12
I agree. If the focal point of the team the same old terry fat frank Steve me trio then i really struggle to have any interest in the team. Sad but true.
posted on 16/5/12
Roy just has to pick the most in form players and this team for me would get to the Semi's at least.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Terry Cole
Carrick Barry
Lampard
Walcott Rooney Young
..................
No it will not get to the semis, it will not even get out of the group.
posted on 16/5/12
Vidicschin
Why not? The defence is solid, we have great midfield protection and pace up front to help Rooney.
posted on 16/5/12
barry was diabolical at the last world cup. ozil ran rings around him.
posted on 16/5/12
Its a shame really. After the last world cup you would think thinks would even slightly.
I feel for Carrick he's been the best in his position this season(don't forget schooling Lampard in the CL last year)but there's just no way he would make it into the squad with Gerrard, Lampard, Parker and Barry as certs to go.
The criticism is that he is not good enough but surely if he is good enough for the spine of a team that has dominated PL and CL in recent years then he is good enough for Eng.
posted on 16/5/12
Terry going in a non-captain capacity
Lampard Milner Barry Gerrard
We have learnt zip from the last WC it seems
posted on 16/5/12
comment by funrob (U9808)
posted 5 minutes ago
Vidicschin
Why not? The defence is solid,
..................
It doesn't matter how solid your defence is, if your midfield gets over run, and can not keep possession, you will not win the game. There is no creativity in that midfield.
And Rooney is not playing in the first two games.
posted on 16/5/12
So unless it's full of utd players your not interested?
posted on 16/5/12
I will hate to see Terry, Gerrard, Lampard etc play, but unfortunately the alternatives are injured, off form or hardly played this season. We have to set up defensively and hope to snatch a goal IMO - our squad is in tatters.
posted on 16/5/12
comment by King Luis Suarez - I might be fick but I can spell DEEEEENCH!!! (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
So unless it's full of utd players your not interested?
...................
Moron, who has said it should be full of United players?
Please learn how to read before gobbing off.
posted on 16/5/12
There isn't a whole lot of creativity in United's midfield but we still score goals. Chances will come from Walcott and Young. Lampard has creativity (did you see that pass for Ramires against Barcelona?)
We will probably draw our first 2 games and need to beat Ukraine to qualify (once Rooney is back) and the team I stated is more than good enough to do that.
Out of interest Vidicschin, what would your ideal team be?
posted on 16/5/12
Its not the lack of united players. Its the depressing line up of old failures. What's exciting about that. They Brent suddenly going to start playing well together in their early thirties.
posted on 16/5/12
comment by King Luis Suarez - I might be fick but I can spell DEEEEENCH!!! (U1695) posted 1 minute ago
So unless it's full of utd players your not interested?
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Hard to be interested if we just take the same midfielders who were carp at the last WC
Nothing to do with United players
posted on 16/5/12
Chances will come from Walcott and Young. Lampard has creativity (did you see that pass for Ramires against Barcelona?)
_____________________
I know we have very little in the way of alternatives, but Walcott is only really effective against a high line of defence, running in behind them from the wing. He's not a conventional winger in that his style of play isn't to take on his man. Young struggles to beat his man at times, too.
All the opposition will have to do is set up deep and pressure our wingers and slow Lampard and all of a sudden our best player has no supply. Rooney is only good up top on his own with decent service, and he just won't get that playing for England. He needs to play deeper to affect our general play.
posted on 16/5/12
Lampard has creativity (did you see that pass for Ramires against Barcelona?)
........................................
Wow, he made one pass.
Tell me, have you ever watched England?
Lampard is a goalscoring midfielder, who has had his best days. he is nothing more than that. He is not creative, he can not keep possession, and he does not set the tempo of games.
posted on 16/5/12
But Vidicschin, who else do we have? Wilshere is one possibility but he's injured. Cleverley is another but he's not quite at the level required. Maybe Brazil will be his opportunity. And as for Lampard, Bastian Sweinsteiger himself today said that Lampard was to England what Xabi Alonso is to Spain. I'm not so blinkered to my my love of United that I can't see how good a player he is.
As for his age, who's to say he's past his best? He is super fit and these days players like him can be brilliant until their late 30's. Have faith because football is a funny old game.
posted on 16/5/12
And as for Lampard, Bastian Sweinsteiger himself today said that Lampard was to England what Xabi Alonso is to Spain.
...................................
Then might I suggest that he is taking the pee. Either that or you are.
In fact I find that one of the most laughable comments I have ever heard.
.........................
I'm not so blinkered to my my love of United that I can't see how good a player he is.
........................
Lampard has been good for Chelsea, not the last two seasons by the way, but never has he been good for England.
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