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Nani world-class? Madness

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comment by Diggler (U4142)

posted on 17/5/12

I agree with this.

comment by VCG © (U13761)

posted on 17/5/12

Bit harsh

posted on 17/5/12

It's worth suffering his frustrating inconsistencies in return for the days when he's nothing short of imperious.

posted on 17/5/12

Sadly, I agree with this almost 100%. He did improve for a period in 2010-11 but by an dlarge his bad names have outnumbered his good games. And when he's bad, he's very bad. If we could get £25 million and upwards, we'd be mad not to sell. However, we'd need to splash out on a more productive replacement after for there to be any point in selling.

posted on 17/5/12

We can't afford to have a 'luxury' player in such a key area of our system, because when he isn't at the top of his game, Nani is woeful.

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many teams have what you call a "luxury" player.
and what area of the syteam would you like our player to be, CB? GK?
have you not seen his assist stats over the last few years, hardly bettered by anyone!

what a load of sheit!

posted on 17/5/12

I agree with a lot of this. If we were going to sell, and I'm not saying we should, I'd like us to buy a left sided winger and have Young as the back up for Valencia and whoever that other player may be. But it would have to be a top top player to justify selling Nani

posted on 17/5/12

Best winger in the PL still for me.

Valencia has been great since returning from that bad injury but Nani has so much much more to his game.

He can strike the ball better, He can use both feet and he can beat a man for SKILL and PACE.

He is frustrating at times but he's also pretty frightening for defenders a lot of the time. You can see the difference in body language of the full back when Nani is running at them and when Young does. Young doesn't put the fear into them like Nani can.

posted on 17/5/12

I think people forget that he's actually an excellent finisher when given the chance and links up very well with Rooney, Welbeck, Young and Cleverley etc. when they play together

posted on 17/5/12

When he isn't up for it, the rest of the team suffer and we just focus on the other wing and coming through Rooney centrally which makes us unbalanced. Frankly these bad games come more often than the good unfortunately. It's unlikely with City snooping around him but Hazard would improve us dramatically in place of Nani.

posted on 17/5/12

Best winger in the PL still for me.

Valencia has been great since returning from that bad injury but Nani has so much much more to his game.

He can strike the ball better, He can use both feet and he can beat a man for SKILL and PACE.

He is frustrating at times but he's also pretty frightening for defenders a lot of the time. You can see the difference in body language of the full back when Nani is running at them and when Young does. Young doesn't put the fear into them like Nani can.

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posted on 17/5/12

I'd rather have Nani than any winger in the world bar Ronaldo.

People rave about Hazard, but he's just Nani lite.

posted on 17/5/12

Nani's recieved very harsh treatment from his own fans this season. It frustrates me that so many people have been on his back - they've been doing it since the day he joined.

As someone above mentioned, he was brilliant towards the end of 09/10, during most of 10/11 and started this season on fire. His performances then dipped slightly along with the team's, and he's been plagued with injuries since the start of the calendar year.

All of a sudden we have people calling for him to be sold. Ridiculous.

posted on 17/5/12

When he isn't up for it, the rest of the team suffer and we just focus on the other wing and coming through Rooney centrally which makes us unbalanced. Frankly these bad games come more often than the good unfortunately. It's unlikely with City snooping around him but Hazard would improve us dramatically in place of Nani.
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and what is that based on? a few youtube clips in an inferior league against inferior players??

and what about when Rooney isnt up for it?
because that happens quite a lot based on his body language, what happpens then, calls for him to be sold too??

posted on 17/5/12

I'd rather have Nani than any winger in the world bar Ronaldo.

People rave about Hazard, but he's just Nani lite.
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Really?! You honestly believe this, having witnessed Nani play? I haven't seen much of Hazard but I do know that Nani has far too many absolutely awful games to be compared to the best wingers around.

posted on 17/5/12

So by the looks of it, the majority think he's still going to become one of the best wingers in the world? Afraid I can't see that happening any time soon.

posted on 17/5/12

The OP sounds like a bit of a straw man argument. I don't see many people (and certainly not serious people) claiming Nani is 'world class'. Nor has he been a desperately bad player for us.

He has been frustratingly inconsistent - sometimes our most potent attacking force (at times last season and some great games at the start of this season), sometimes just not clicking. One thing I'd say in his defence is that he has suffered a little from having to play on the left to accommodate Valencia, and the two of them have been fairly equally impressive on the right at their very best. Valencia gets the nod thanks to his consistency, but maybe Nani would be more consistent if it hadn't been for niggling injuries and that old problem of suffering for your versatility.

My overall verdict is that we should be open-minded about his chances of improving further: we've seen a superb player at his best and it does happen that a player around his ages steps up a gear / cuts out the inconsistency. At the same time, I wouldn't consider him irreplaceable if a big offer came in and a very good replacement were available (especially as Valencia sacked his agent because he is going nowhere).

posted on 17/5/12

Overly harsh critisism, as I have come to expect on this site. You are saying that he is poor around 80% of his playing time? Ridiculous.

Even on his really bad games, he still causes problems.

posted on 17/5/12

Nani's recieved very harsh treatment from his own fans this season. It frustrates me that so many people have been on his back - they've been doing it since the day he joined.

As someone above mentioned, he was brilliant towards the end of 09/10, during most of 10/11 and started this season on fire. His performances then dipped slightly along with the team's, and he's been plagued with injuries since the start of the calendar year.

All of a sudden we have people calling for him to be sold. Ridiculous.

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totally agree mate, its the biggest joke ive read in ages!!
a top winger with pace, can use both feet, can score goals, and something that goes unnoticed is he actually works hard.

yep... lets sell him, ive seen someone on youtube called hazard... he has a cool name so we must buy him!

posted on 17/5/12

He's the sort of player who needs to be consistently in the team. Spurs had the same problems with Ginola and inconsistency. At the end of it though the pros outweigh the cons and that kind of player will end up being remembered for the good they did at the club rather than the bad.

As you say, on his day he is unstoppable at times

posted on 17/5/12

I guarantee that if we sold Nani and signed Hazard, you people would be saying the exact same thing about him in a couple of years, you probably wanted Ronaldo to be sold before he became the best player in the world

posted on 17/5/12

There are not too many wingers better then him. Ronaldo, Robben, Ribery, Sanchez? Hazard is not neither are Di Maria or Pedro

Nani

posted on 17/5/12

Valencia gets the nod thanks to his consistency, but maybe Nani would be more consistent if it hadn't been for niggling injuries and that old problem of suffering for your versatility.
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i wouldnt even say it was down to valencias consistency, its more down to the fact Nani can cross and shoot with both feet as being the reason he plays on the left.

posted on 17/5/12

Stretford_Ender and Bloodred basically sum up my view on this.

Valencia's great form on the right this season has led to a lot of people criticising Nani. But let's face facts, as good as Valencia is, Nani is a far superior player than him. Also, when he has played on the left he's not been as bad as people make out, better than Young in my opinion.

The problem with Nani is that at his best he is simply unplayable and there aren't many better players around. The fact that he cannot sustain this is why people seem to think he's been playing badly, when he's actually played well, just not at the level he can be capable of.

His age is irrelevant as well. Valencia is 26 and only just showing a consistent level at his highest level. Some players peak at later ages. Not everyone is class at 20 years old.

posted on 17/5/12

Nani is talented, I'm not questioning that. He just fails to use it consistently. I'd say he has a good game every 1-5 games, is that really good enough?

What makes me laugh is the comments about Hazard regarding youtube clips. I've watched him play around 14-16 games this season for Lille and Belgium and he would the talents Nani has BUT with a footballing brain which makes him consistently a threat.

posted on 17/5/12

Valencia's great form on the right this season has led to a lot of people criticising Nani. But let's face facts, as good as Valencia is, Nani is a far superior player than him. Also, when he has played on the left he's not been as bad as people make out, better than Young in my opinion.

The problem with Nani is that at his best he is simply unplayable and there aren't many better players around. The fact that he cannot sustain this is why people seem to think he's been playing badly, when he's actually played well, just not at the level he can be capable of.

His age is irrelevant as well. Valencia is 26 and only just showing a consistent level at his highest level. Some players peak at later ages. Not everyone is class at 20 years old.




i cant actually believe some of the posts on here
ask ANY top team in the world whether they would have nani in their team or squad and i guarantee 99% would say yes please.

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