I couldn't make the matches since he signed, so don't know much about him other than being a youngster. What was he like?
Shame to see youngsters go.
It's difficult to say really, he was here for such a short time.
There was definitely something there & at his age definite room for improvement. I expect he'll go on to have a decent career between this league & the Championship.
Just the wrong time for him i think, like Spurr best for all parties i think. He will probably be very good at Charlton just like i think Spurr will be a massive hit at Donny
"He will probably be very good at Charlton just like i think Spurr will be a massive hit at Donny"
Well, that's an interesting statement. The question it throws up then, is why couldn't they be 'very good' or a 'massive hit' at Hillsborough?
Spurr has been.
In Morrison's case, it tends not to happen in 5 minutes!
Victor, you pose an interesting question. It's one we were discussing a few weeks ago with regards to Grant Holt. We took the punt and brought him out of non-league football. Decided we'd made a mistake after a year or two and got rid on the cheap. A few seasons later he's in the top 5 goalscorers in the division above us and helping another team to the premier league.
Very disappointing frankly that other clubs get more out of these players than we could. Something that we need to sort out!
Wrt. Spurr Most of the times I watched him he never looked that comfortable at left back. Prone to get out of position and allow the wingers easy crossing opportunities.
Fair enough, i-monster, but I refuse to let common sense get in the way of a good conspiracy theory - we're cursed!!
Personally i'm sick of us making snap judgements on players as to how good they are, giving them half a dozen games and then throwing them to the wolves (not wolverhampton btw). Think we live in a dreamworld where players are expected to sign on the dotted line and immediately perform better than the inflated opinions we have of them. No transitional period, no support when a pass is mislaid, no understanding as none of us have played professionally in front of 20k before.
One thing I am certain of is no matter how M.Morrison plays at Charlton I bet their fans give him a damnsight longer to adjust to life at their club than we afforded to him.
Sorry, rant over
A shame.
I can only assume that he has gone for non-footballing reasons because he looked decent albeit nervous.
Not sure why people keep going on about Holt as "one that got away". He played in leagues below us for years after we let him go. Either ourselves or about 60 other clubs could have picked him up from Rochdale, Forest & Shrewsbury.
Mind you, he have been great alongside Tudders.
"It's a shame as I believe there's definite ability there & he hasn't had enough time to prove himself.
On the other hand, it's about the club & not individuals so if it allows us to bring others in & improve, so be it."
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Completely agree Monster.
As for players doing better elsewhere, I think we are no different from other clubs with regards to how players perform once they move on. I do agree with Mr DingDong though, that sometimes it has nothing to do with the club, the manager, the player or his abilities but is down to our expectations as fans.
Unfortunately for Morrison, he arrived at a really bad time for the team, made a few mistakes (as did everyone) and never seemed to get his confidence back.
But I would add that we have made heroes out of players who were not that good but played for us when things were going really well, and villains out of good players during bad times. Whether the players like it or not, we as fans do have expectations and aspirations and it is their job to deliver those to the best of their ability!! And yes, most of us are fickle at best!!!
I hope we keep hold of reynolds now, even if just for cover.
Not a good move imo out of Reynolds & Morrison I'd have pushed Reynolds out. No doubt Morrison will do really well at Charlton, but we'll probably need to keep Reynolds now
If Meggo deems him surplus to requirements then so be it, he sees him day in day out and he obviously doesn't fit into his plans, end of story for me really.
This business about performing for others etc... Well you can say that about any player that is sold can't you?
IIf you go by that rule then no-one would ever move clubs. Grant Holt???? He was poor for us, it took the likes of Shrewsbury in the lower leagues to enhance him, the biggest one for me going back a few years was a certain Ian Taylor!! He came in, got about 6 games and was packed off to villa, only to be one of the best players we never had! At least we got Guy Whittingham in return
So he came and went on for an "undisclosed" fee.
Anyone hear what we paid for him or what he went for? Personally, I'd want to see reasonable profit on a 23yr old, regardless of his limited opportunities.
Profit on players is something we've been awful at for the last few years.
Another ex Leicester player i had time for. I was surprised he moved on so quickly but then Chris Powell was a very popular person at Leicester so that might have had something to do with it. I think another season or 2 of experience and player will make Morrison a good CB or RB
Alot of these players came when all the club had a loosing mentality from the players to the tea lady in the board room i'm not suprised they played sh@te. Given a chance they would have come good but MM wants promotion next season for the big sell off so time we don't have harsh but sadly true.
Morrison is a decent prospect and will do well given time.
We paid £400k for Morrison but I cannot tell you what we received yet.
agreed i_monster: we should've given Morrison a chance. How many games did he even play under Megson? We're left with Buxton and Otsemebor at right-back - not much to write home about..
Buxton and Otsemobor are both very good RB's at this level.
Morrison was a CB.
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posted on 8/7/11
I couldn't make the matches since he signed, so don't know much about him other than being a youngster. What was he like?
Shame to see youngsters go.
posted on 8/7/11
It's difficult to say really, he was here for such a short time.
There was definitely something there & at his age definite room for improvement. I expect he'll go on to have a decent career between this league & the Championship.
posted on 8/7/11
Just the wrong time for him i think, like Spurr best for all parties i think. He will probably be very good at Charlton just like i think Spurr will be a massive hit at Donny
posted on 8/7/11
"He will probably be very good at Charlton just like i think Spurr will be a massive hit at Donny"
Well, that's an interesting statement. The question it throws up then, is why couldn't they be 'very good' or a 'massive hit' at Hillsborough?
posted on 8/7/11
Spurr has been.
In Morrison's case, it tends not to happen in 5 minutes!
posted on 8/7/11
Victor, you pose an interesting question. It's one we were discussing a few weeks ago with regards to Grant Holt. We took the punt and brought him out of non-league football. Decided we'd made a mistake after a year or two and got rid on the cheap. A few seasons later he's in the top 5 goalscorers in the division above us and helping another team to the premier league.
Very disappointing frankly that other clubs get more out of these players than we could. Something that we need to sort out!
Wrt. Spurr Most of the times I watched him he never looked that comfortable at left back. Prone to get out of position and allow the wingers easy crossing opportunities.
posted on 8/7/11
Fair enough, i-monster, but I refuse to let common sense get in the way of a good conspiracy theory - we're cursed!!
posted on 8/7/11
Personally i'm sick of us making snap judgements on players as to how good they are, giving them half a dozen games and then throwing them to the wolves (not wolverhampton btw). Think we live in a dreamworld where players are expected to sign on the dotted line and immediately perform better than the inflated opinions we have of them. No transitional period, no support when a pass is mislaid, no understanding as none of us have played professionally in front of 20k before.
One thing I am certain of is no matter how M.Morrison plays at Charlton I bet their fans give him a damnsight longer to adjust to life at their club than we afforded to him.
Sorry, rant over
posted on 8/7/11
A shame.
I can only assume that he has gone for non-footballing reasons because he looked decent albeit nervous.
Not sure why people keep going on about Holt as "one that got away". He played in leagues below us for years after we let him go. Either ourselves or about 60 other clubs could have picked him up from Rochdale, Forest & Shrewsbury.
Mind you, he have been great alongside Tudders.
posted on 8/7/11
"It's a shame as I believe there's definite ability there & he hasn't had enough time to prove himself.
On the other hand, it's about the club & not individuals so if it allows us to bring others in & improve, so be it."
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Completely agree Monster.
As for players doing better elsewhere, I think we are no different from other clubs with regards to how players perform once they move on. I do agree with Mr DingDong though, that sometimes it has nothing to do with the club, the manager, the player or his abilities but is down to our expectations as fans.
Unfortunately for Morrison, he arrived at a really bad time for the team, made a few mistakes (as did everyone) and never seemed to get his confidence back.
But I would add that we have made heroes out of players who were not that good but played for us when things were going really well, and villains out of good players during bad times. Whether the players like it or not, we as fans do have expectations and aspirations and it is their job to deliver those to the best of their ability!! And yes, most of us are fickle at best!!!
I hope we keep hold of reynolds now, even if just for cover.
posted on 8/7/11
Not a good move imo out of Reynolds & Morrison I'd have pushed Reynolds out. No doubt Morrison will do really well at Charlton, but we'll probably need to keep Reynolds now
posted on 8/7/11
senordingdong
posted on 8/7/11
If Meggo deems him surplus to requirements then so be it, he sees him day in day out and he obviously doesn't fit into his plans, end of story for me really.
This business about performing for others etc... Well you can say that about any player that is sold can't you?
IIf you go by that rule then no-one would ever move clubs. Grant Holt???? He was poor for us, it took the likes of Shrewsbury in the lower leagues to enhance him, the biggest one for me going back a few years was a certain Ian Taylor!! He came in, got about 6 games and was packed off to villa, only to be one of the best players we never had! At least we got Guy Whittingham in return
posted on 8/7/11
So he came and went on for an "undisclosed" fee.
Anyone hear what we paid for him or what he went for? Personally, I'd want to see reasonable profit on a 23yr old, regardless of his limited opportunities.
Profit on players is something we've been awful at for the last few years.
posted on 8/7/11
Another ex Leicester player i had time for. I was surprised he moved on so quickly but then Chris Powell was a very popular person at Leicester so that might have had something to do with it. I think another season or 2 of experience and player will make Morrison a good CB or RB
posted on 9/7/11
Alot of these players came when all the club had a loosing mentality from the players to the tea lady in the board room i'm not suprised they played sh@te. Given a chance they would have come good but MM wants promotion next season for the big sell off so time we don't have harsh but sadly true.
posted on 9/7/11
Morrison is a decent prospect and will do well given time.
We paid £400k for Morrison but I cannot tell you what we received yet.
posted on 9/7/11
agreed i_monster: we should've given Morrison a chance. How many games did he even play under Megson? We're left with Buxton and Otsemebor at right-back - not much to write home about..
posted on 10/7/11
Buxton and Otsemobor are both very good RB's at this level.
Morrison was a CB.
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