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You'll be crying out for Harry when it all goes wrong, you just don't know it yet. One season in the CL and suddenly everyone thinks we're Man United.
Oh, and for the record, he passed his (very difficult) brief this season. 4th place was the target, son. Check the table!
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The brief was top 4, check your facts and come back to class!
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I will write what I wrote in the other article :-
If the board doesn't back him then shouldn't that tell you something ? That Harry is dividing opinion with them as he is with us?
To suggest that a board of professionals chaired by a serious business man like levy is basing decisions based on a couple of articles on various random forums is laughable
Oh, and for the record, he passed his (very difficult) brief this season. 4th place was the target, son. Check the table!
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This is a myth. It was a difficult brief last summer. But as the season developed and Liverpool arsenal and Chelsea ALL self destructed then the brief of getting cl football actually wasn't all that demanding
Chronic,
I'm not saying everyone on here is responsible. You're right, that would be laughable. I'm talking about the collective group of Harry haters swarming the net and no doubt shouting unnecessary abuse at Harry during games. Hence, the last paragraph!
You make some valid points fridgeboy, but it's a bit much to start blaming the fans if Harry does leave the club. Levy has proved himself to be a shrewd businessman who's consistently done the best thing for the club. He's not about to harm Spurs simply because a few fans start spouting off on the internet.
Besides which you admit yourself that those who criticise Harry have valid points themselves. Press conferences can be a useful tool in terms of motivating the squad and sending out a message to rivals. You only have to look at the Mourinhos and Fergies of the world to see how it should be done.
Similarly with tactics - the fine line between success and failure that is highlighted by narrowly missing out on CL show this more than ever. One bad decision or ill-judged interview can potentially cost the club millions in lost revenue.
Yes we've played great football under Harry and certainly we're better than i've ever seen us but just like the playing squad we have to be looking to improve, not settle. Harry's (eventual) stance that we should be happy with achieving fourth sounds like a lack of ambition. Maybe it's realistic given our situation, but winning every game and the league should always be the aim. Why bother otherwise?
The mentality of "fourth will do" is not the Spurs way.
To dare is to do
Having been to close to 30 spurs games this season I have to confess that I have not come across very much dissent towards Harry at all at the games. During our bad run then of course there was negative chat away from matchday but at the games then dissent was minimal. Booing was at the team rather than Harry. The he plays on the left songs about bale were completely necessary whether dissent against manager or not
For the record I personally would try to keep redknapp for continuity next season and see how it goes. Butbid the board decide that they do not want him then I can't say I would be upset. His league finishes have been the best we have had for ages but the squad we have had has been far and away the best we have had in the prem league era. Harry is performing at par. Coasting basically
I'm tired of spouting the same old stuff. Every team had a blip. Maybe it's something to do with the league becoming more competitive. Why is it specifically about us and not the quality of the opposition. We finished 1 point behind Arsenal. They're way more demanding than us yet i see Wenger's job i safe. It's all short termism. If Harry had had a blip at the start and finished as strong as we started you'd probably run to Sandbanks to make sure he signed.
Also, while we're on myths. Let's move onto the idea that he doesn't rotate (another reason some fans think we imploded). Here's some stats...
Spurs
Players Starting: 20
Total Players Used: 26
25+ Starts: 9
Arsenal
Players Starting: 21
Total Players Used: 25
25+ Starts: 8
Chelsea
Players Starting: 24
Total Players Used: 25
25+ Starts: 8
City
Players Starting: 20
Total Players Used: 21
25+ Starts: 9
United
Players Starting: 25
Total Players Used: 30
25+ Starts: 8
Newcastle
Players Starting: 23
Total Players Used: 25
25+ Starts: 6
We don't seem to have rotated significantly less than the rest of the top six, do we? This is only the Premier League, the Europa and Carling Cup probably means that we rotated more than any of the top 6. There. I hope that shuts a few people up!!!!!
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It's not so much to do with rotation as with Harry facking up the line up. I have lost count with the number of times Harry has had to make half time subs because his starting team has been wrong.
It's amazing how fatigue only sets in when your losing. I didn't see the Chelsea boys lose a yard or two. Funny that!!!!
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Harry is performing at par. Coasting basically
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Fridgeboy - those stats only tell half the story at best. If you look at the minutes played for example only Evra from the United squad even gets into our top 5. And he's been described as a "machine" etc by his teammates.
Rotation does not simply require starting different players, but protecting your key players when games are won. Also, giving squad players a decent amount of minutes to prove themselves. I particularly remember the game against United - we go 2-0 down having been well in the game and Harry did nothing. Not until the 80th minute did we see Defoe, who scored with 7.
Similarly the vital game against Villa - to bring on Parker could be seen as "squad rotation" but if it isn't done with any purpose there's no point.
Stats are only useful in context.
I think that even Harry, as manager, would accept the blame for the Spurs late season demise.
I could still be wrong, but I think that he got distracted by the "England Job" rumour, and that eventually worked its way onto the field!
I could still be wrong, but I think that he got distracted by the "England Job" rumour, and that eventually worked its way onto the field!
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If true then unacceptable
Players are contracted to play for spurs not for redknapp. For them to stop trying because manager is off is unacceptable... If that's what happened
As for redknapp taking eye off the ball.... I believe we pay him 3mill a year to manage us. Again unacceptable to lose focus for any reason other than a health scare or a family issue of some kind
Our own players came out in the press at the time to back him for the job - there's no denying they had it on their minds
Seriously, there's not been a witch-hunt on here but to say Harry's beyond reproach is just as silly as saying he should be sacked.
I trust Levy to do the right thing by the club, and if he does go it's because the board agree with the issues highlighted here.. and no doubt others behind the scenes we're not privy to
Yes, it's our fault, nothing to do with him effing up third place, and Levy reads ja606 and so will sack him...
the most ridiculous pile of tosh I've ever woken up to read and with the 'IT'S YOUR FAULT' rant, one of the most insulting to fellow FANS
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On-a-Ja606sabbatical (U9213)
You'll be crying out for Harry when it all goes wrong, you just don't know it yet. One season in the CL and suddenly everyone thinks we're Man United.
posted on 1/6/12
Oh, and for the record, he passed his (very difficult) brief this season. 4th place was the target, son. Check the table!
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The brief was top 4, check your facts and come back to class!
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posted on 1/6/12
I will write what I wrote in the other article :-
If the board doesn't back him then shouldn't that tell you something ? That Harry is dividing opinion with them as he is with us?
To suggest that a board of professionals chaired by a serious business man like levy is basing decisions based on a couple of articles on various random forums is laughable
posted on 1/6/12
Oh, and for the record, he passed his (very difficult) brief this season. 4th place was the target, son. Check the table!
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This is a myth. It was a difficult brief last summer. But as the season developed and Liverpool arsenal and Chelsea ALL self destructed then the brief of getting cl football actually wasn't all that demanding
posted on 1/6/12
Chronic,
I'm not saying everyone on here is responsible. You're right, that would be laughable. I'm talking about the collective group of Harry haters swarming the net and no doubt shouting unnecessary abuse at Harry during games. Hence, the last paragraph!
posted on 1/6/12
You make some valid points fridgeboy, but it's a bit much to start blaming the fans if Harry does leave the club. Levy has proved himself to be a shrewd businessman who's consistently done the best thing for the club. He's not about to harm Spurs simply because a few fans start spouting off on the internet.
Besides which you admit yourself that those who criticise Harry have valid points themselves. Press conferences can be a useful tool in terms of motivating the squad and sending out a message to rivals. You only have to look at the Mourinhos and Fergies of the world to see how it should be done.
Similarly with tactics - the fine line between success and failure that is highlighted by narrowly missing out on CL show this more than ever. One bad decision or ill-judged interview can potentially cost the club millions in lost revenue.
Yes we've played great football under Harry and certainly we're better than i've ever seen us but just like the playing squad we have to be looking to improve, not settle. Harry's (eventual) stance that we should be happy with achieving fourth sounds like a lack of ambition. Maybe it's realistic given our situation, but winning every game and the league should always be the aim. Why bother otherwise?
The mentality of "fourth will do" is not the Spurs way.
To dare is to do
posted on 1/6/12
Having been to close to 30 spurs games this season I have to confess that I have not come across very much dissent towards Harry at all at the games. During our bad run then of course there was negative chat away from matchday but at the games then dissent was minimal. Booing was at the team rather than Harry. The he plays on the left songs about bale were completely necessary whether dissent against manager or not
For the record I personally would try to keep redknapp for continuity next season and see how it goes. Butbid the board decide that they do not want him then I can't say I would be upset. His league finishes have been the best we have had for ages but the squad we have had has been far and away the best we have had in the prem league era. Harry is performing at par. Coasting basically
posted on 1/6/12
I'm tired of spouting the same old stuff. Every team had a blip. Maybe it's something to do with the league becoming more competitive. Why is it specifically about us and not the quality of the opposition. We finished 1 point behind Arsenal. They're way more demanding than us yet i see Wenger's job i safe. It's all short termism. If Harry had had a blip at the start and finished as strong as we started you'd probably run to Sandbanks to make sure he signed.
Also, while we're on myths. Let's move onto the idea that he doesn't rotate (another reason some fans think we imploded). Here's some stats...
Spurs
Players Starting: 20
Total Players Used: 26
25+ Starts: 9
Arsenal
Players Starting: 21
Total Players Used: 25
25+ Starts: 8
Chelsea
Players Starting: 24
Total Players Used: 25
25+ Starts: 8
City
Players Starting: 20
Total Players Used: 21
25+ Starts: 9
United
Players Starting: 25
Total Players Used: 30
25+ Starts: 8
Newcastle
Players Starting: 23
Total Players Used: 25
25+ Starts: 6
We don't seem to have rotated significantly less than the rest of the top six, do we? This is only the Premier League, the Europa and Carling Cup probably means that we rotated more than any of the top 6. There. I hope that shuts a few people up!!!!!
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But if *
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posted on 1/6/12
It's not so much to do with rotation as with Harry facking up the line up. I have lost count with the number of times Harry has had to make half time subs because his starting team has been wrong.
posted on 1/6/12
It's amazing how fatigue only sets in when your losing. I didn't see the Chelsea boys lose a yard or two. Funny that!!!!
posted on 1/6/12
Keep Harry
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Harry is performing at par. Coasting basically
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This
Fridgeboy - those stats only tell half the story at best. If you look at the minutes played for example only Evra from the United squad even gets into our top 5. And he's been described as a "machine" etc by his teammates.
Rotation does not simply require starting different players, but protecting your key players when games are won. Also, giving squad players a decent amount of minutes to prove themselves. I particularly remember the game against United - we go 2-0 down having been well in the game and Harry did nothing. Not until the 80th minute did we see Defoe, who scored with 7.
Similarly the vital game against Villa - to bring on Parker could be seen as "squad rotation" but if it isn't done with any purpose there's no point.
Stats are only useful in context.
posted on 1/6/12
I think that even Harry, as manager, would accept the blame for the Spurs late season demise.
I could still be wrong, but I think that he got distracted by the "England Job" rumour, and that eventually worked its way onto the field!
posted on 1/6/12
*within 7
posted on 1/6/12
I could still be wrong, but I think that he got distracted by the "England Job" rumour, and that eventually worked its way onto the field!
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If true then unacceptable
Players are contracted to play for spurs not for redknapp. For them to stop trying because manager is off is unacceptable... If that's what happened
As for redknapp taking eye off the ball.... I believe we pay him 3mill a year to manage us. Again unacceptable to lose focus for any reason other than a health scare or a family issue of some kind
posted on 1/6/12
Our own players came out in the press at the time to back him for the job - there's no denying they had it on their minds
Seriously, there's not been a witch-hunt on here but to say Harry's beyond reproach is just as silly as saying he should be sacked.
I trust Levy to do the right thing by the club, and if he does go it's because the board agree with the issues highlighted here.. and no doubt others behind the scenes we're not privy to
posted on 1/6/12
Yes, it's our fault, nothing to do with him effing up third place, and Levy reads ja606 and so will sack him...
the most ridiculous pile of tosh I've ever woken up to read and with the 'IT'S YOUR FAULT' rant, one of the most insulting to fellow FANS
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