I thought the Hibs statement was excellent.

It was a glove across the cheek to every fan crying for integrity. Glove slap, as Homer would say.

Basically, we will give you what you want, but you better back your team from now on.

Hibs have been bullied by their fans. They are scared those fans will stay away (though I doubt they would). Sporting integrity my archie.

mmmmmmmmmm...I'm bit sceptical when a club comes across whiter than white.....Hibs fans are totally disillusioned with their board as they've been a total joke last couple years with the cup final the cherry on top.....this will play to the Hibs fans big time

Fans want their cake and to eat it.

Hibs will feel a £250k hit in the pocket on the pitch, of that I have no doubt.

I suppose, the only saving grace for Petrie is that the Hibs team are really quite poor at the moment and any sort of improvement no matter how small will keep the fans onside.

But if Hibs dont improve, and go down or whatever....this "decision" by Petrie to giove the fans what they want will be long forgotten and he will be getting it in the neck, as he always does, for not spending the readies....readies he's no longer got either

Dignity, integrity, and the good of the game. Where were these people when our game was begining to circle the drain? Oh yeah thats right they were doing dodgy deals with Setanta. The only team with any dignity in our game is the mighty Celtic. We have been playing fair since day dot and are the only thing that will keep scottish football alive. If the powers had been actually doing their jobs instead of sucking on the Rangers money throbber this would never have happened. Why would a league as a business not have rules and regulations demanding that all participating bodies had to show ALL payments made to players and staff and anything to the contrary meant instance expulsion from the league. Money has destroyed our game and it appears it will be the destroyer of our civilisation but it does make the world go round

"The only team with any dignity in our game is the mighty Celtic."....oh here we fcking go

Celtic...along with Rangers....used the financial muscle and leverage they have in this country to their own gain and didnt care how much it hurt or affected the rest...simple as

I wonder how much sporting integrity will be getting screamed when Hibs transfer budget is slashed.

Or when ticket prices etc go up?

Wonder what will be getting screamed then - how does it go Celtic fans, oh yeah, "sack the board, sack the board, sack the board"

St Johnstone have just confirmed they are voting No.

That's now Dundee Utd, Hearts, Hibs and St Johnstone.

Aberdeen have also hinted strongly at a No vote.

So that's about it then for NewCo.

It's now just a matter of which division they end up in: the 1st or the 3rd.

Meeting this week - reckon a draft vote will be taken.

They will try to come back with 11 votes of no to make it clean and stop any infighting.

And TBH, if it is 5 no votes, it might as well be 11.

Just get FECKIN on with it.

Jeez, it did not take this long to establish the UN....

Gotta feel sorry for Motherwell a bit here
Wouldnt surprise me if Killie are in their shoes aswell.

Although, they relied on old firm money to keep them going by the sound of things so thats their problem to deal with.

Sporting integrity means little when its the clubs existence thats at stake......I am very interested to see if Motherwell fans will vote no if it means admin for their own club.

Yeah but we used it Fairly St3vie thats the point. No dodgy bungs and payments into off shore accounts. In our sick society money is power, Celtic had it Rangers didnt but kept spending anyway. There is absolutley nothing anyone can say to tarnish Celtics finances. We had a look at EBT's decided it was dodgy and would end in trouble so we payed what we owed and moved on. You can put as many into your post as you like. It doesnt change the cold hard facts that Celtic played by the rules and were succesful while the Gers Cheated their way to success and now the rest of the countries teams have to suffer. A team like Hibs that really need money are going to miss out on quarter of a mill because of Rangers.

dc1

We are not talking about playing by the rules here...we are talking about dignity.

You can sit and throw the book at me for everything Ragners did if you want.

I'm not here to "tarnish" Celtic's finances.

"It doesnt change the cold hard facts that Celtic played by the rules and were succesful while the Gers Cheated their way to success and now the rest of the countries teams have to suffer."

Celtic voted for a ref strike which made the lower league clubs suffer two years ago

Celtic and Rangers had enough power between them to stop any moves by the rest of the clubs in the country to split the wealth more fairly.

Celtic and Rangers wanted to negotiate private TV deals and make their own money and leave the rest of the clubs to rot.

Celtic and Rangers are hated as the old firm...together....for a reason.

While the rich got richer, the poor got poorer, and Celtic and Rangers, together, made manouevers, consistently, to keep things that way.

so dont give it the dignity pi$h....if Celtic cared for the rest of the country as much as you are trying to make out here, Mr Lawwell wouldnt be making statementes that can basically be read as "fck everyone else, we will look after ourselves"

Oh, and eh.....

If Motherwell go under because Rangers are no longer there then they deserve to go under.

This is the problem with our game, too many satellite clubs. Fiscal autonomy is the way ahead.

St3vie careful when using the integrity statement mate maybe your not old enough to remember the Kelly and whyte dynasty at Celtic Park and the "official" crowds of 26000 when the old ground was bursting at the seams!!! BOTH Celtic and Ranger have been guilty of using/pandering the sectarian angle as well to swell the coffers WE are NOT whiter than White to think otherwise is simply delusional!!!

ritchiebhoy



Looking forward to the champions league qualifiers?

Im not saying Celtic havent abused their power a bit in the Scottish game. Of course we have if you have power you use it. The difference is though that we havent run our business in such a shocking way that now leaves the rest of the SPL up poo creek. But also when Im talking about people like Petrie and the rest coming out now about integrity when they have sat back for years sooking on the money nipple letting the OF dominance to continue so they can keep their second home in Kent. Our whole game reeks of hypocisy. Celtic arent whiter than white but they would have to be a deep shade of Sh!tty brown to be on par with Rangers.

Sporting integrity means little when its the clubs existence thats at stake
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Have you thought about the implications your own clubs sporting integrity has had on all these other clubs?
have you thought about what level rangers might have been if they didnt use this cash they never had?
You may have denied other clubs a euro place for instance , i certainly believe you have cost celtic tens of millions potentially in each and every league win you had throughout the " cheating " years

what did you stop other clubs achieving?

tim o tay no im not looking forward to the CL qualifiers well be soundly pumped AGAIN!! Face it Scottish football is at an all time low for quality and will only get worse

"Im not saying Celtic havent abused their power a bit in the Scottish game. Of course we have if you have power you use it. The difference is though that we havent run our business in such a shocking way that now leaves the rest of the SPL up poo creek."

have you forgotten the bloody mess we were in before Wee Fergus saved the day????

At what point did I say Rangers had any dignity like??

I merely retorted to the garb being spouted by Celticdave about Celtuic being the only club left in this country with any dignity...what an absolute load of $hite that is!!

I wont get into the argument about cheating not being cheating until its actually proved and titles and things are stripped.

What I do know is that as part of the old firm, Rangers denied the rest of the other clubs in this country a lot of things, via illegal means or not......but Rangers are not the old firm alone

Tornado....what did we stop other clubs achieving??
I dont know, its impossible to answer.

What level would Celtic be at if they hadnt brought in some of the players they did to try and keep up with big spending Rangers?? Again, impossible to answer.

There's no point in going over things to which there is no possible way of knowing what the outcome would have been.

Lets stick to the facts, and the facts are, Rangers are in $hit street and some other clubs may be in $hit street without them.

Sporting integrity doesnt mean much in these circumstances...having a club to support in the first place is paramount

"we havent run our business in such a shocking way that now leaves the rest of the SPL up poo creek.""

and thats all Rangers fault is what you are saying...which is nonsense!!

St3vie careful when using the integrity statement mate maybe your not old enough to remember the Kelly and whyte dynasty at Celtic Park and the "official" crowds of 26000 when the old ground was bursting at the seams!!!

A lot of urban myth here IMHO - a) rose tinted specs looking back - Parkhead was seldom bursting at the seams except european and OF games & b) kids in for nothing which was a good few thousands...jeez ,nobody under 14 paid - all ''lifted over''!!

7returns there were many many times i attended matches at Celtic Park where there was clearly around 35000 to 40000 inside the gound and the "official" crowd was listed as 26000 that seemed to be a fave number!! Yes the ground was seldom burstin g at the seams but we did have crowds of 35000 to 40000 ofetn enough for biger league matches and cup games

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