U10241 - come on you can do better than that for a name!
You're views on cots I agree with you whole heartedly. He's had no money to spend, and the vultures are a circling. He has always carried himself with dignity & I will always hold him in high regard. And will always be thankful for the part he played in keeping us in the championship!
(do you think the Kuwait interest would have been here if we were in league one!?!?!).
Is he the best man for the long term future of our club (even without the potential injection of cash...)
Er..... no.
He certainly has got an eye for a player tho!!
Can't argue with that can you Sutton et al
I could argue with that. But I won't.
I just want him gone and replaced by a decent manager. You lot can give him as much credit as you like. I personally don't think he deserves any. But it looks like he's going and once he's gone it doesn't really matter.
Would you lads have Sven,he's got a very good record against us mighty Rams. Just to say, I think you should keep SC and give him 10 games.That's if he gets chance to spend money.
Sven always has a good preseason spend spend spend but when the season starts it goes tips up got to give cotts a chance but i dont think they will
I believe Steve Cotterill should stay and if he does he will move the club forward.
He did a better than OK job from January onwards after the loanees and SOD came in. If he is allowed to get the squad back to something like it was last April and bring in his own coaches and assistant there is no reason why that can't continue.
Changing managers would delay the process and cost time we don't really have.
A new manager would not have been able to assess the players we have nor absorb the ethos of the club.
New owners coming in and immediately sacking people would not generate a good environment.
And finally like any new government a new manager (even Billy) would blame his failings on the previous regime.
I'm in two minds about cotts. To sum it up really, Id say he is ok, not bad, but hes not going to be one of these managers who sets the footballing world alight.
I wouldn't be gutted if he was still here next season, or if he left, but if genuinely a better manager and by one I mean one who is tried and tested in the championship came along (except McCarthy), i would prefer them to him but on the other hand, I would prefer SC to someone like Fergie JR, just cause of his name, I mean I would prefer NLN to him
Certainly agree that SC has acted with dignity throughout. His loan signings were impressive and we did stay up. That aside, it has to rank as a turgid experience. The lean spell was unquestionably dire.
Will stick by my guns; wanted him replaced at the end of the season. However, never envisaged Ferguson and thankful he is 'out of the running'. Sven, no! Warnock, yes, but not sure he will leave Leeds.
However, thrilled at developments and excited about expected influx. Also hope Ipswich are serious about Chambers.
Chambers to Ipswich?
This lot think they qare getting him
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/131317
Maybe because they have missed out on Fawaz, to us, that they will grab Chambers off us and make him unbeatable at the heart of their defence
"I'm in two minds about cotts. To sum it up really, Id say he is ok, not bad, but hes not going to be one of these managers who sets the footballing world alight."
Has he ever been at a club where they HAVEN'T been strapped for cash? He's been limited to making do, it'd be interesting to see how he'd do with some financial backing. I kinda want to see him given a chance simply for the 7-3.
Itd be interesting, or he deserves a shot?
This could be one of the most important times in years for the club. Decision made now could effect Forest for the next ten or twenty years, maybe if longer.
And we should let Cotterill stay, a man with no history of anything like success at this level because of one, or a few games in his long career?
If you look at his career at forest as a whole you sack him now, if you look at his career at this level over all, then you sack him now. If you pick one or a few games in isolation to base a decision on, then you sack him at Christmas and set the club back a year, maybe longer.
Al-Florist, he had a bit to spend when he was at The Lane.
Sutton, fair comment. I would be happy to see Cotterill leave if he brought in someone better who would have an immediate impact, but Ferguson? Come on. Sven? just likes spending other peoples money. MM, like Colin is a bit of a dinosaur when it comes to strategy and tactics I think. (Not that I think that Cotts is the most forward thinking coach)
I really can't see him doing such a poor job that we would be in the same situation as when he came after a dozen games or so that is why I say give him a chance.
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posted on 1/7/12
U10241 - come on you can do better than that for a name!
You're views on cots I agree with you whole heartedly. He's had no money to spend, and the vultures are a circling. He has always carried himself with dignity & I will always hold him in high regard. And will always be thankful for the part he played in keeping us in the championship!
(do you think the Kuwait interest would have been here if we were in league one!?!?!).
Is he the best man for the long term future of our club (even without the potential injection of cash...)
Er..... no.
He certainly has got an eye for a player tho!!
posted on 1/7/12
Can't argue with that can you Sutton et al
posted on 1/7/12
I could argue with that. But I won't.
I just want him gone and replaced by a decent manager. You lot can give him as much credit as you like. I personally don't think he deserves any. But it looks like he's going and once he's gone it doesn't really matter.
posted on 1/7/12
Would you lads have Sven,he's got a very good record against us mighty Rams. Just to say, I think you should keep SC and give him 10 games.That's if he gets chance to spend money.
posted on 1/7/12
Sven always has a good preseason spend spend spend but when the season starts it goes tips up got to give cotts a chance but i dont think they will
posted on 1/7/12
I believe Steve Cotterill should stay and if he does he will move the club forward.
He did a better than OK job from January onwards after the loanees and SOD came in. If he is allowed to get the squad back to something like it was last April and bring in his own coaches and assistant there is no reason why that can't continue.
Changing managers would delay the process and cost time we don't really have.
A new manager would not have been able to assess the players we have nor absorb the ethos of the club.
New owners coming in and immediately sacking people would not generate a good environment.
And finally like any new government a new manager (even Billy) would blame his failings on the previous regime.
posted on 1/7/12
I'm in two minds about cotts. To sum it up really, Id say he is ok, not bad, but hes not going to be one of these managers who sets the footballing world alight.
I wouldn't be gutted if he was still here next season, or if he left, but if genuinely a better manager and by one I mean one who is tried and tested in the championship came along (except McCarthy), i would prefer them to him but on the other hand, I would prefer SC to someone like Fergie JR, just cause of his name, I mean I would prefer NLN to him
posted on 1/7/12
Certainly agree that SC has acted with dignity throughout. His loan signings were impressive and we did stay up. That aside, it has to rank as a turgid experience. The lean spell was unquestionably dire.
Will stick by my guns; wanted him replaced at the end of the season. However, never envisaged Ferguson and thankful he is 'out of the running'. Sven, no! Warnock, yes, but not sure he will leave Leeds.
However, thrilled at developments and excited about expected influx. Also hope Ipswich are serious about Chambers.
posted on 1/7/12
Chambers to Ipswich?
This lot think they qare getting him
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/131317
Maybe because they have missed out on Fawaz, to us, that they will grab Chambers off us and make him unbeatable at the heart of their defence
posted on 1/7/12
There you go Left Post
posted on 1/7/12
"I'm in two minds about cotts. To sum it up really, Id say he is ok, not bad, but hes not going to be one of these managers who sets the footballing world alight."
Has he ever been at a club where they HAVEN'T been strapped for cash? He's been limited to making do, it'd be interesting to see how he'd do with some financial backing. I kinda want to see him given a chance simply for the 7-3.
posted on 2/7/12
Itd be interesting, or he deserves a shot?
This could be one of the most important times in years for the club. Decision made now could effect Forest for the next ten or twenty years, maybe if longer.
And we should let Cotterill stay, a man with no history of anything like success at this level because of one, or a few games in his long career?
If you look at his career at forest as a whole you sack him now, if you look at his career at this level over all, then you sack him now. If you pick one or a few games in isolation to base a decision on, then you sack him at Christmas and set the club back a year, maybe longer.
posted on 2/7/12
Al-Florist, he had a bit to spend when he was at The Lane.
Sutton, fair comment. I would be happy to see Cotterill leave if he brought in someone better who would have an immediate impact, but Ferguson? Come on. Sven? just likes spending other peoples money. MM, like Colin is a bit of a dinosaur when it comes to strategy and tactics I think. (Not that I think that Cotts is the most forward thinking coach)
I really can't see him doing such a poor job that we would be in the same situation as when he came after a dozen games or so that is why I say give him a chance.
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