Lauders,
Sky give us a pittance anyway, and our media revenues are less favourable than loads of smaller leagues in europe.
Sky have been heavily overplayed, and it's use in the debate is a great example of how out of his depth regan is.
What I find bizarre about all this is the assumption that Regan et al have that there will be NO tv deal.
Why wouldn't there be? Surely there are still people wanting to see it?
And also why wouldn't the SFL get a tv deal if Rangers are accepted there? I'm absolutely certain they would.
Flawed logic by the incompetent fools
maheed thats what six-shooters were invented fur
tim
Spot on Ivan. It's been frustrating listening to this banter that without Rangers there is no tv.
Of course it would be a reduced value but there would still be a product and a market. And as you sa tv for the sfl.
We have been offered an armageddon scenario by some people.
DC, aye that's what Murray tried. I'm a six shooter and will shoot the lights out with money I've not got.
Russian roulette more like. and you've shot yerseves deed.
aye we know that,heed
everycant knows that,everycant knows the general opinion,these continual statements are just kickin the corpse,which is frankly a bit morbid,far from dignified and not particularly required
DC, I forgot that you are in mourning.
We really don't have power over this
Lauders newco don't have any power over anything.
And I can remember when Regan and Doncaster were both lauded as the new messiahs of scottish football
They are a pair of, soon to be redundant, plonkers.
Wish the fans had the powers to remove the two plonkers from office, a la "the shareholder spring" where some head honchos were given their jotters recently.
Glad to see quite a few SFL clubs (Annan, Falkirk...)will not be brow beaten by the muppets and will send them to Div 3.
Well said the Hibees
I think there has been around 10 SFL clubs who have said they'll vote Rangers to the 3rd division.
RST response
Sunday, 08 July 2012 20:08
It is with little surprise but some dismay that we note the statement made today by the Hibernian Supporters Club. Give the propensity for these statements to appear in groups we feel it is worth correcting some of the inaccuracies contained within it before others make the same mistakes. After all, given the now shattered falsehood that ‘sporting hypocrisy’ was the overriding aim of clubs in the SPL, we should do all we can to avoid another myth being perpetuated by those clubs and their fan groups.
It is probably worth noting that we fully agree with the Hibs Club’s opposition to the SFA/SPL aim of placing Rangers into Division 1 of the SFL. However, their assertion that this is being done to assist Rangers is absurd. The Rangers fans have made it very clear that we wish the club to resume playing in Division 3. This has been communicated to both the board and the manager of our club and they are entirely supportive. This is the correct solution and one which means the club will forever be beyond reproach. The tactics being employed by the SPL and SFA in order to deny Rangers the opportunity to do so are outrageous.
However, let us be very clear. This ‘solution’ is being cobbled together for the benefit of clubs in the SPL, like Hibernian, who have based their business models around having Rangers in the league. It is being done so that Rangers can be used as a cash cow to sustain these clubs whilst inflicting maximum damage on our club’s ability to compete. If our club are forced into this it will be purely to protect the financial interests of the current SPL clubs.
Whilst we have little interest in whether the financial projections for the SPL clubs are accurate, the SPL chairmen clearly feel that they can sustain their clubs with reduced, or no, TV revenue and sponsorship and without the patronage of our away support. We wish them the best of luck.
The SFL clubs are blameless in this scenario. They are being blackmailed by the spectre of formation of SPL 2 and should not have been put in this position by the SPL clubs and the SFA. The SFA are also attempting to blackmail Rangers into accepting these proposals using a licence document concocted specifically to threaten our club.
That the Hibs Club should use Rangers’ successful court challenge of an unlawful SFA sanction as an excuse to attack our manager says everything about the motives behind their statement.
If the Hibernian fans, or fans of any other SPL club, are unhappy with the plan to place our club, against its will, in Division 1, then perhaps they should address their concerns to the boards of the Scottish football authorities, rather than taking it as a further opportunity to attack our club. Indeed, the Hibernian Supporters Club are in an excellent position to do so, given that their Chairman, Rod Petrie, is one of the main architects of this proposal along with Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster and the club chairmen who are lucky enough to hold privileged positions on the boards of the SPL and SFA.
Rangers Football Club has existed and prospered for 140 years. We are in the middle of a very difficult period in our history but are resolute in the knowledge that our club will be here for another 140 years, and beyond. We look forward to being given the opportunity to make new friends in our journey through the Scottish leagues, starting in Division 3. We are sure this journey will benefit the clubs in those leagues and look forward to returning to a prosperous SPL with bountiful ‘sporting hypocrisy’. If we are denied this opportunity then rival clubs should look no further than their own chairman for someone to blame.
Cheers for that Wotsit and hear,hear to the RST statement.
Rangers in Div 3 is the way to go,and start to rebuild from there.
No need for favours from any club or fans,we are not a charity.
We have had the lectures,now let Rangers rise again.
Follow,Follow
Not always a fan of any of the supporters groups tbh but this pretty much says it all
Wotsit, tbbab,
if it's any consolation, the other teams fans want you to play in the 3rd division too.
And as I've said a few times on here, Dundee United FC have stated that they believe the SFL clubs should be allowed to vote without any pressure being exerted by the SPL or SFA.
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posted on 8/7/12
Lauders,
Sky give us a pittance anyway, and our media revenues are less favourable than loads of smaller leagues in europe.
Sky have been heavily overplayed, and it's use in the debate is a great example of how out of his depth regan is.
posted on 8/7/12
What I find bizarre about all this is the assumption that Regan et al have that there will be NO tv deal.
Why wouldn't there be? Surely there are still people wanting to see it?
And also why wouldn't the SFL get a tv deal if Rangers are accepted there? I'm absolutely certain they would.
Flawed logic by the incompetent fools
posted on 8/7/12
maheed thats what six-shooters were invented fur
tim
posted on 8/7/12
Spot on Ivan. It's been frustrating listening to this banter that without Rangers there is no tv.
Of course it would be a reduced value but there would still be a product and a market. And as you sa tv for the sfl.
We have been offered an armageddon scenario by some people.
posted on 8/7/12
DC, aye that's what Murray tried. I'm a six shooter and will shoot the lights out with money I've not got.
Russian roulette more like. and you've shot yerseves deed.
posted on 8/7/12
aye we know that,heed
everycant knows that,everycant knows the general opinion,these continual statements are just kickin the corpse,which is frankly a bit morbid,far from dignified and not particularly required
posted on 8/7/12
DC, I forgot that you are in mourning.
posted on 8/7/12
We really don't have power over this
posted on 8/7/12
Lauders newco don't have any power over anything.
posted on 8/7/12
And I can remember when Regan and Doncaster were both lauded as the new messiahs of scottish football
posted on 8/7/12
They are a pair of, soon to be redundant, plonkers.
posted on 8/7/12
Wish the fans had the powers to remove the two plonkers from office, a la "the shareholder spring" where some head honchos were given their jotters recently.
Glad to see quite a few SFL clubs (Annan, Falkirk...)will not be brow beaten by the muppets and will send them to Div 3.
Well said the Hibees
posted on 8/7/12
I think there has been around 10 SFL clubs who have said they'll vote Rangers to the 3rd division.
posted on 8/7/12
RST response
Sunday, 08 July 2012 20:08
It is with little surprise but some dismay that we note the statement made today by the Hibernian Supporters Club. Give the propensity for these statements to appear in groups we feel it is worth correcting some of the inaccuracies contained within it before others make the same mistakes. After all, given the now shattered falsehood that ‘sporting hypocrisy’ was the overriding aim of clubs in the SPL, we should do all we can to avoid another myth being perpetuated by those clubs and their fan groups.
It is probably worth noting that we fully agree with the Hibs Club’s opposition to the SFA/SPL aim of placing Rangers into Division 1 of the SFL. However, their assertion that this is being done to assist Rangers is absurd. The Rangers fans have made it very clear that we wish the club to resume playing in Division 3. This has been communicated to both the board and the manager of our club and they are entirely supportive. This is the correct solution and one which means the club will forever be beyond reproach. The tactics being employed by the SPL and SFA in order to deny Rangers the opportunity to do so are outrageous.
However, let us be very clear. This ‘solution’ is being cobbled together for the benefit of clubs in the SPL, like Hibernian, who have based their business models around having Rangers in the league. It is being done so that Rangers can be used as a cash cow to sustain these clubs whilst inflicting maximum damage on our club’s ability to compete. If our club are forced into this it will be purely to protect the financial interests of the current SPL clubs.
Whilst we have little interest in whether the financial projections for the SPL clubs are accurate, the SPL chairmen clearly feel that they can sustain their clubs with reduced, or no, TV revenue and sponsorship and without the patronage of our away support. We wish them the best of luck.
The SFL clubs are blameless in this scenario. They are being blackmailed by the spectre of formation of SPL 2 and should not have been put in this position by the SPL clubs and the SFA. The SFA are also attempting to blackmail Rangers into accepting these proposals using a licence document concocted specifically to threaten our club.
That the Hibs Club should use Rangers’ successful court challenge of an unlawful SFA sanction as an excuse to attack our manager says everything about the motives behind their statement.
If the Hibernian fans, or fans of any other SPL club, are unhappy with the plan to place our club, against its will, in Division 1, then perhaps they should address their concerns to the boards of the Scottish football authorities, rather than taking it as a further opportunity to attack our club. Indeed, the Hibernian Supporters Club are in an excellent position to do so, given that their Chairman, Rod Petrie, is one of the main architects of this proposal along with Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster and the club chairmen who are lucky enough to hold privileged positions on the boards of the SPL and SFA.
Rangers Football Club has existed and prospered for 140 years. We are in the middle of a very difficult period in our history but are resolute in the knowledge that our club will be here for another 140 years, and beyond. We look forward to being given the opportunity to make new friends in our journey through the Scottish leagues, starting in Division 3. We are sure this journey will benefit the clubs in those leagues and look forward to returning to a prosperous SPL with bountiful ‘sporting hypocrisy’. If we are denied this opportunity then rival clubs should look no further than their own chairman for someone to blame.
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Awe, bless.
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RST
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Dundee Utd FC
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Why you laugh at us?
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ivan
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posted on 8/7/12
Cheers for that Wotsit and hear,hear to the RST statement.
Rangers in Div 3 is the way to go,and start to rebuild from there.
No need for favours from any club or fans,we are not a charity.
We have had the lectures,now let Rangers rise again.
Follow,Follow
posted on 8/7/12
Not always a fan of any of the supporters groups tbh but this pretty much says it all
posted on 8/7/12
Wotsit, tbbab,
if it's any consolation, the other teams fans want you to play in the 3rd division too.
And as I've said a few times on here, Dundee United FC have stated that they believe the SFL clubs should be allowed to vote without any pressure being exerted by the SPL or SFA.
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