@Maestro

I wholeheartedly agree.
I think its a case of Rooney being our best attacker but also I case that,when he drops off, theres no serious contender to his attacking throne.
The form of Hernandez is a concern while Welbeck still has issues with is finishing.Two players who are still developing there games around Uniteds prestige attacking style.

if it wasn't for his goals last season then we'll have been in a far worser state.
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I wasnt aware we were in a worse state in the first place.

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Clearly you idnt watch much last season - our kepper had a rough time the defence kept conceding silly goals, we had to get scholes out of retirement because our midfield was so dire we didnt have a shot on goal against city in the biggest match of the season, got humped at home by city, out of CL before xmas in an easy group - didnt progress in the cup and lost the league.

If thats not a state even with rooneys goals then i dread to see what you think is.

Clearly you idnt watch much last season
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saw all of it, thanks





our kepper had a rough time the defence kept conceding silly goals, we had to get scholes out of retirement because our midfield was so dire we didnt have a shot on goal against city in the biggest match of the season, got humped at home by city, out of CL before xmas in an easy group - didnt progress in the cup and lost the league.

If thats not a state even with rooneys goals then i dread to see what you think is.
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clearly you are an idiot

I think using two new keepers behind an ever changing back four was as much to blame as anything.

Name any side anywhere in the world whose defence wouldn`t suffer from losing Vidic, their captain, for as long as we did.

i dont see how you cant think we where in a bad way at last season - we where playing rooney in CM Jones in CM, changing our keeper,losing our captain for 6 months. bringing a 37 year old back suggests we where in a bad way. Then we came out with nothing at the end of it all.

Then we came out with nothing at the end of it all.
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this is your problem isnt it?

gawasoldier1984

Dont bite

Anyone who calls someone an "idiot" over an difference of opinion over the Internet clearly some issues.

gawasoldier1984 (U2134)

Surely you`ve answered your own question there mate??

We were up against it from all angles, losing players to freak injuries such as Fletch, long term injuries in Vida, Ando and Clev and having to use players out of position or blooding young and or untried players.

Missing out on the league on goal difference against the odds is something other clubs would be proud of!!!

BOICHI

are you his Dad? Im sure he can stick up for himself.

Then we came out with nothing at the end of it all.
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this is your problem isnt it?

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I do want to win yes - but it compounded the fact we had a bad season and where all over the show at times last season.

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gawasoldier1984

Dont bite

Anyone who calls someone an "idiot" over an difference of opinion over the Internet clearly some issues.

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it shows that he has no argument really and its all he can come up with

it shows that he has no argument really and its all he can come up with
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then before you tell your mate this why are you continuing to counter my argument with me?

You are just confirming what I think you might be.

Are you guys debating United or having a two on one bully fest and getting stupidly personal???

FYI United played better last season (and won nothing) than the season before (when we won the P League). As somebody who pays to watch United, last season was quite entertaining.

it shows that he has no argument really and its all he can come up with
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then before you tell your mate this why are you continuing to counter my argument with me?

You are just confirming what I think you might be.

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prove my points wrong then - just sitting there calling me an idiot with no argument of your own shows no substance to your statement and cannot be given any creditably at all.

prove my points wrong then
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Im not even going to try to convince you that Manchester United are not 'in a state'. Your mind seems made up.

You are a typical example of why other fans hate Man U fans, and why 'real' Man United fans cringe when you open your mouths. If QPR had not conceded that goal, we wouldn't be having this argument.

Im not even going to try to convince you that Manchester United are not 'in a state'. Your mind seems made up.

You are a typical example of why other fans hate Man U fans, and why 'real' Man United fans cringe when you open your mouths. If QPR had not conceded that goal, we wouldn't be having this argument.

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We should never had got ourselves into the position of needing QPR to get something at city. We did with some shocking defending and poor performances, we got ourselfs into that state.

You cant deny last season we look in a very bad way several times and going out of Europe in an easy group.

to say im not a real united supporter because i say we where in a state a several points last season is just laughable. Again your post has no substance and can't be taken seriously.

"We should never had got ourselves into the position of needing QPR to get something at city."

Did you not read my comments re our terrible luck with injuries to key players?

I`m trying my hardest not to take sides here.......but you seem more annoyed that we didn`t win the league than why we didn`t.

We should never had got ourselves into the position of needing QPR to get something at city.

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again you are proving me right.

You will be telling me next that winning the Premier League would have just been papering over the cracks.




because i say we where in a state a several points last season
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now your are backtracking. We were is a state in general a few minutes ago now its occasionally.

"We should never had got ourselves into the position of needing QPR to get something at city."

Did you not read my comments re our terrible luck with injuries to key players?

I`m trying my hardest not to take sides here.......but you seem more annoyed that we didn`t win the league than why we didn`t.

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Blaming luck is a very poor arguement. Bottom line is we had the league in our hands and could hold onto it because off players not doing their job right. 4-2 up with 8 mins to go then letting in 2 stupid goals is not luck its poor performance. When city scored their 6th at OT you didnt put it down to luck -it showed we where all over the show.

hopefully this season with Vidic back in the team errors will be removed. Im exited that Kagawa will bring something extra to the team and Powell will learn from the players around him.

gawasoldier1984 (U2134)

You do realise that your second paragraph there contradicts the first and destroys your entire argument up to now???

In actual fact, the first sentence of your second paragraph reinforces and agrees with my point and also proves you didn`t read what i posted re our luck with injuries etc.

again you are proving me right.

You will be telling me next that winning the Premier League would have just been papering over the cracks.




because i say we where in a state a several points last season

now your are backtracking. We were is a state in general a few minutes ago now its occasionally.

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did i say we are in a bad way as a club? no. i pointed to things that lead to us being in a state last season.

You do realise that your second paragraph there contradicts the first and destroys your entire argument up to now???

In actual fact, the first sentence of your second paragraph reinforces and agrees with my point and also proves you didn`t read what i posted re our luck with injuries etc.

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i read luck and injuries - my bad

gawasoldier1984 (U2134)

Oh, is that it?

Eh???