It is lookiñg that way........
Are you on crystal meth today jpb
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saying that though, it will probably take a week to get s many comments again on the cricket board
Saffer through and through.
even if this is true, i still think he will play again if he really wants to and if he shows that in his behaviour. no chance of captaining england again though.
KP has been disliked in every Team hehas everplayed for. The man is an obnoxious idiotic money grabbing fool.
greig over exxagarates things anyway. Kp will be back. Its hard to keep away a player that is performing so well.
he is already in squad for surrey, so dont see why he cant be in England's
As I said before JPB and was attacked by you, it doesn't matter how good the player is, England should not be having so much trouble with a foreigner in their national squad. Stop this nonsense of having so many south Africans in your national team, it's absurd.
yes i remember your misleading post fasheezy.
i have spent about 4 years on these boards standing up to people who claim that anyone should be allowed to play for whatever country they want. this incident proves how wrong they are - as my other arguments have done countless times.
your post however was just provocative and factually incorrect which is why i pointed the same out to you at the time.
Quite agree Fash. Blame D`oliviera for that.
How was it provocative and factually incorrect?
You are the only one who thought I was wumming btw, even though you tried so hard to convince others to no avail that they should ignore my posts.
no, you were factually incorrect.
from what i remember you accused england of scouting for overseas players, which was total nonsense.
you were unaware that pitersen was a bowler when he came to england, and were unaware that he had approached enlgand, not the other way around.
in other words, you didnt have a clue what you were talking about
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Neon -
This poster claimed that england had a policy of recruiting overseas players.
He claimed that england approached pietersen with a view to recruiting him to bat for england.
In fact pietersen approached england by going into their dressing room in a warm up match in south africa when he was playing for kwazulu natal against an england touring side, and speaking to nasser hussain.
At that point in pietersen's career - as is widely known - he was regarded as a spin bowler. That's why he was batting nr 9 for kwazulu natal in the game when he approached nasser hussain and enquired about playing in england.
The allegation from this poster that pietersen was recruited as a batsman by england as a part of their policy of recriuting overseas players to play for england, is total nonsense, not least because England have never had any such policy.
JPB
The fact of the matter is that there are 4 saffas in the English national side, the last 2 captains of the English national side are saffas and that isnt right.
All i was saying is that the ECB should focus more on developing locals as opposed to considering foreigners.
You should learn to engage people in a mature way without insults. The insults make you come across as a childish brat that thinks his word is gospel.
And btw KP could bat when he came to England and yes you are correct he came to england when he couldnt make it at the highest level in SA.
The fact of the matter is that there are 4 saffas in the English national side, the last 2 captains of the English national side are saffas and that isnt right.
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That is not a "fact" at all. Strauss isnt a "saffa". His parents left suoth africa when he was 4 years old. He was educated at Radley and at Durham University.
One of your other "saffas", Matt Prior, moved to England aged 11 with his English father.
For the avoidance of doubt, neither of these players moved to england as a result of an ECB policy to recruit overseas players, which was your initial inaccurate and false allegation.
All i was saying is that the ECB should focus more on developing locals as opposed to considering foreigners.
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I agree with you. I have been arguing the point against the majority of english cricket posters for the last 4 years. Where the hell have you been during this time ? For the avoidance of doubt, as I pointed out on the other thread, it also appears that the ECB agree with you as they have tightened up the policy on qualification to the maximimum extent permitted by european law.
You should learn to engage people in a mature way without insults. The insults make you come across as a childish brat that thinks his word is gospel.
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You should learn not to make totally unfounded and factually baseless allegations. If you dont expect people to set you stright when you come on posting highly provocative and wildly inaccurate allegations, then I suggest you need to have a rethink.
And btw KP could bat when he came to England and yes you are correct he came to england when he couldnt make it at the highest level in SA.
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I havent said anything on why he came to england. It wasnt because he couldnt make it at the highest level - at the time he was batting at nr 9 and wasnt even looking at playing for south africa as a batsman -but i do agree that he came to england because he thought it was the best way for him to make the most money. As I have said, I have been making this point on here for years. Re his batting - he was not a batsman. He was a bowler. He played nr 9 in south africa. Even if he had been a batsman then your allegation about england having a policy of recruiting overseas players would have been groundless, but the fact of the matter is that you were wrong on this point as well as all of your other points.
This poster claimed that england had a policy of recruiting overseas players.
He claimed that england approached pietersen with a view to recruiting him to bat for england.
Wow. I never said anything of the sort.
Please go to my post and copy and paste it here. Shocking how you have to resort to lies.
I havent said anything on why he came to england.
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Im agreeing with you that he came to england and england didnt approach him while he was in SA.
Where the hell did i say england have a policy for recruiting foreigners?
Where the hell did i say england have a policy for recruiting foreigners?
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So how exactly then do you think we should interpret the comment,
"Maybe you should start grooming your own players and stop poaching so many south Africans."
?
you can interpret it in many ways.
you clearly chose to interpret it as "england have a policy for recruiting foreigners", which i think is wide of the mark, hence no other person interpreted it that way.
its semantics really and i think you are being very petty.
you can interpret it in many ways.
you clearly chose to interpret it as "england have a policy for recruiting foreigners", which i think is wide of the mark, hence no other person interpreted it that way.
its semantics really and i think you are being very petty.
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well, how should it be interpreted then ?
you stated that england need to change their development and selection policy which you described as currently being one of "poaching....south africans".
as I pointed out on that thread, england does not have a policy of "poaching....south africans". In addition to not having a policy of "poaching....south africans", england has never even poached a south african.
Regarding the 4 "saffas" which you suggest england has recruited as a part of their "poaching" policy :
- strauss moved to england aged 4
- prior moved to england aged 11 with his english father
- trott has always had a british passport
- pietersen approached england when he was a bowler.
In other words your accusation was wrong.
I agree that qualification should primarily be dependent on where a cricketer has been developed as a player, as the ECB obviously does as it has tightened up qualification to the maximum extent permitted by the law.
However in response to your initial comment on this thread, I can confirm that the reason that I picked you up on the matter on the other thread, is that your accusation on that thread was baseless and inaccurate, as I also pointed out on that thread
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posted on 19/8/12
It is lookiñg that way........
posted on 19/8/12
Are you on crystal meth today jpb
posted on 19/8/12
Get some nuts
posted on 19/8/12
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posted on 19/8/12
KP nuts
posted on 19/8/12
wrong board
posted on 19/8/12
saying that though, it will probably take a week to get s many comments again on the cricket board
posted on 19/8/12
Saffer through and through.
posted on 19/8/12
even if this is true, i still think he will play again if he really wants to and if he shows that in his behaviour. no chance of captaining england again though.
posted on 19/8/12
KP has been disliked in every Team hehas everplayed for. The man is an obnoxious idiotic money grabbing fool.
posted on 19/8/12
greig over exxagarates things anyway. Kp will be back. Its hard to keep away a player that is performing so well.
he is already in squad for surrey, so dont see why he cant be in England's
posted on 19/8/12
As I said before JPB and was attacked by you, it doesn't matter how good the player is, England should not be having so much trouble with a foreigner in their national squad. Stop this nonsense of having so many south Africans in your national team, it's absurd.
posted on 19/8/12
yes i remember your misleading post fasheezy.
i have spent about 4 years on these boards standing up to people who claim that anyone should be allowed to play for whatever country they want. this incident proves how wrong they are - as my other arguments have done countless times.
your post however was just provocative and factually incorrect which is why i pointed the same out to you at the time.
posted on 19/8/12
Quite agree Fash. Blame D`oliviera for that.
posted on 19/8/12
How was it provocative and factually incorrect?
You are the only one who thought I was wumming btw, even though you tried so hard to convince others to no avail that they should ignore my posts.
posted on 19/8/12
no, you were factually incorrect.
from what i remember you accused england of scouting for overseas players, which was total nonsense.
you were unaware that pitersen was a bowler when he came to england, and were unaware that he had approached enlgand, not the other way around.
in other words, you didnt have a clue what you were talking about
posted on 19/8/12
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posted on 19/8/12
Neon -
This poster claimed that england had a policy of recruiting overseas players.
He claimed that england approached pietersen with a view to recruiting him to bat for england.
In fact pietersen approached england by going into their dressing room in a warm up match in south africa when he was playing for kwazulu natal against an england touring side, and speaking to nasser hussain.
At that point in pietersen's career - as is widely known - he was regarded as a spin bowler. That's why he was batting nr 9 for kwazulu natal in the game when he approached nasser hussain and enquired about playing in england.
The allegation from this poster that pietersen was recruited as a batsman by england as a part of their policy of recriuting overseas players to play for england, is total nonsense, not least because England have never had any such policy.
posted on 19/8/12
JPB
The fact of the matter is that there are 4 saffas in the English national side, the last 2 captains of the English national side are saffas and that isnt right.
All i was saying is that the ECB should focus more on developing locals as opposed to considering foreigners.
You should learn to engage people in a mature way without insults. The insults make you come across as a childish brat that thinks his word is gospel.
And btw KP could bat when he came to England and yes you are correct he came to england when he couldnt make it at the highest level in SA.
posted on 19/8/12
The fact of the matter is that there are 4 saffas in the English national side, the last 2 captains of the English national side are saffas and that isnt right.
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That is not a "fact" at all. Strauss isnt a "saffa". His parents left suoth africa when he was 4 years old. He was educated at Radley and at Durham University.
One of your other "saffas", Matt Prior, moved to England aged 11 with his English father.
For the avoidance of doubt, neither of these players moved to england as a result of an ECB policy to recruit overseas players, which was your initial inaccurate and false allegation.
All i was saying is that the ECB should focus more on developing locals as opposed to considering foreigners.
=====================
I agree with you. I have been arguing the point against the majority of english cricket posters for the last 4 years. Where the hell have you been during this time ? For the avoidance of doubt, as I pointed out on the other thread, it also appears that the ECB agree with you as they have tightened up the policy on qualification to the maximimum extent permitted by european law.
You should learn to engage people in a mature way without insults. The insults make you come across as a childish brat that thinks his word is gospel.
=======================
You should learn not to make totally unfounded and factually baseless allegations. If you dont expect people to set you stright when you come on posting highly provocative and wildly inaccurate allegations, then I suggest you need to have a rethink.
And btw KP could bat when he came to England and yes you are correct he came to england when he couldnt make it at the highest level in SA.
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I havent said anything on why he came to england. It wasnt because he couldnt make it at the highest level - at the time he was batting at nr 9 and wasnt even looking at playing for south africa as a batsman -but i do agree that he came to england because he thought it was the best way for him to make the most money. As I have said, I have been making this point on here for years. Re his batting - he was not a batsman. He was a bowler. He played nr 9 in south africa. Even if he had been a batsman then your allegation about england having a policy of recruiting overseas players would have been groundless, but the fact of the matter is that you were wrong on this point as well as all of your other points.
posted on 19/8/12
This poster claimed that england had a policy of recruiting overseas players.
He claimed that england approached pietersen with a view to recruiting him to bat for england.
Wow. I never said anything of the sort.
Please go to my post and copy and paste it here. Shocking how you have to resort to lies.
posted on 19/8/12
I havent said anything on why he came to england.
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Im agreeing with you that he came to england and england didnt approach him while he was in SA.
Where the hell did i say england have a policy for recruiting foreigners?
posted on 19/8/12
Where the hell did i say england have a policy for recruiting foreigners?
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So how exactly then do you think we should interpret the comment,
"Maybe you should start grooming your own players and stop poaching so many south Africans."
?
posted on 19/8/12
you can interpret it in many ways.
you clearly chose to interpret it as "england have a policy for recruiting foreigners", which i think is wide of the mark, hence no other person interpreted it that way.
its semantics really and i think you are being very petty.
posted on 19/8/12
you can interpret it in many ways.
you clearly chose to interpret it as "england have a policy for recruiting foreigners", which i think is wide of the mark, hence no other person interpreted it that way.
its semantics really and i think you are being very petty.
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well, how should it be interpreted then ?
you stated that england need to change their development and selection policy which you described as currently being one of "poaching....south africans".
as I pointed out on that thread, england does not have a policy of "poaching....south africans". In addition to not having a policy of "poaching....south africans", england has never even poached a south african.
Regarding the 4 "saffas" which you suggest england has recruited as a part of their "poaching" policy :
- strauss moved to england aged 4
- prior moved to england aged 11 with his english father
- trott has always had a british passport
- pietersen approached england when he was a bowler.
In other words your accusation was wrong.
I agree that qualification should primarily be dependent on where a cricketer has been developed as a player, as the ECB obviously does as it has tightened up qualification to the maximum extent permitted by the law.
However in response to your initial comment on this thread, I can confirm that the reason that I picked you up on the matter on the other thread, is that your accusation on that thread was baseless and inaccurate, as I also pointed out on that thread
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