I agree with virtually all the points but hasn't this subject matter been explored already about 999999 times already?
A cursory glance down the board will see this.
Cleverly seemed to just pass the ball sideways to scholes and stand there.
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Carrick has been accused of doing this for years. Not it's Cleverley's turn.
I would rather he pass the ball sidewards, or backwards then try a long ball and lose possession.
4)Cleverly seemed to just pass the ball sideways to scholes and stand there. Or pass to Evra/CBs, get it back and then pass str8 to scholes again. He was also very average at the Olympics. He suppose to be our up and coming CM maestro.He is already like 23 and has a bad injury record too. Nothing more to say really.
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Good God this Reverend Ramsey character is obsessed
I assume he supports Arsenal so I guess it's understandable as his own club has nothing to shout about
4)Cleverly seemed to just pass the ball sideways to scholes and stand there. Or pass to Evra/CBs, get it back and then pass str8 to scholes again. He was also very average at the Olympics. He suppose to be our up and coming CM maestro.He is already like 23 and has a bad injury record too. Nothing more to say really.
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Guess when Cleverly played well.
Lat year, when he was partnered with Ando.
Why?
Bcos he is someone who needs his partner to be on the same wavelength as him to create triangles and linking up play with wingers coming inside.
Yesterday, first of all instead of Kagawa, there was no movement at all.
Welbeck was playing as a left winger.
But most of all, he had to hold himself back as Scholes was in the holding role instead of Carrick.
And for all of Scholsey's passing prowess, he is not the best defensively.
Just give him a chance rather than just crucifying him.
I m sure given opportunities and confidence, he can be a very productive player for us.
I think that Clevs and Scholes are pretty similar in terms of play - recycling the ball and keeping it simple. Scholes obviously has the ability to stretch the opposition with his long passing. I suppose me point is that we don't really need two of that type of player in the team and I was hoping that one of them would be withdrawn for Ando sooner than they were.
I think that Clevs and Scholes are pretty similar in terms of play - recycling the ball and keeping it simple. Scholes obviously has the ability to stretch the opposition with his long passing. I suppose me point is that we don't really need two of that type of player in the team and I was hoping that one of them would be withdrawn for Ando sooner than they were.
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Sorry but Cleverly does not have Scholes vision, composure, intelligence and passing range. It was painfully obvious yesterday. Pretty much all our attacks were being orchestrated by Scholes from a deep lying position.
Cleverly had ample opportunity to do what Scholes was doing but he spent more time passing the ball to the CB/WB/scholes than actually getting it to Kags and the rest of the attacking players. Everton where more than comfy with him passing the ball sideways and backwards. They clearly seemed more worried about Scholes
I guess he still just 23 so who knows if he will get there but i have my doubts. Bottomline i think he is at best a squad player and not a regular starter in CM
omment by ole_20_legend (U14722)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think that Clevs and Scholes are pretty similar in terms of play - recycling the ball and keeping it simple. Scholes obviously has the ability to stretch the opposition with his long passing. I suppose me point is that we don't really need two of that type of player in the team and I was hoping that one of them would be withdrawn for Ando sooner than they were.
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Sorry but Cleverly does not have Scholes vision, composure, intelligence and passing range. It was painfully obvious yesterday. Pretty much all our attacks were being orchestrated by Scholes from a deep lying position.
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All I said was that they are similar in terms of how they play. I didn't say that Clevs was anywhere near as good as Scholes and I even mentioned that the latter has better long range passing.
Scholes at 23 wasn't as good as Scholes at 30, so we just have to give Clevs some time to develop. I think that he will be a useful player for us, however he needs time to find his role in the team and settle in.
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posted on 21/8/12
I agree with virtually all the points but hasn't this subject matter been explored already about 999999 times already?
A cursory glance down the board will see this.
posted on 21/8/12
Cleverly seemed to just pass the ball sideways to scholes and stand there.
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Carrick has been accused of doing this for years. Not it's Cleverley's turn.
I would rather he pass the ball sidewards, or backwards then try a long ball and lose possession.
posted on 21/8/12
4)Cleverly seemed to just pass the ball sideways to scholes and stand there. Or pass to Evra/CBs, get it back and then pass str8 to scholes again. He was also very average at the Olympics. He suppose to be our up and coming CM maestro.He is already like 23 and has a bad injury record too. Nothing more to say really.
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posted on 21/8/12
posted on 21/8/12
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posted on 21/8/12
Good God this Reverend Ramsey character is obsessed
I assume he supports Arsenal so I guess it's understandable as his own club has nothing to shout about
posted on 21/8/12
4)Cleverly seemed to just pass the ball sideways to scholes and stand there. Or pass to Evra/CBs, get it back and then pass str8 to scholes again. He was also very average at the Olympics. He suppose to be our up and coming CM maestro.He is already like 23 and has a bad injury record too. Nothing more to say really.
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Guess when Cleverly played well.
Lat year, when he was partnered with Ando.
Why?
Bcos he is someone who needs his partner to be on the same wavelength as him to create triangles and linking up play with wingers coming inside.
Yesterday, first of all instead of Kagawa, there was no movement at all.
Welbeck was playing as a left winger.
But most of all, he had to hold himself back as Scholes was in the holding role instead of Carrick.
And for all of Scholsey's passing prowess, he is not the best defensively.
Just give him a chance rather than just crucifying him.
I m sure given opportunities and confidence, he can be a very productive player for us.
posted on 21/8/12
I think that Clevs and Scholes are pretty similar in terms of play - recycling the ball and keeping it simple. Scholes obviously has the ability to stretch the opposition with his long passing. I suppose me point is that we don't really need two of that type of player in the team and I was hoping that one of them would be withdrawn for Ando sooner than they were.
posted on 21/8/12
I think that Clevs and Scholes are pretty similar in terms of play - recycling the ball and keeping it simple. Scholes obviously has the ability to stretch the opposition with his long passing. I suppose me point is that we don't really need two of that type of player in the team and I was hoping that one of them would be withdrawn for Ando sooner than they were.
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Sorry but Cleverly does not have Scholes vision, composure, intelligence and passing range. It was painfully obvious yesterday. Pretty much all our attacks were being orchestrated by Scholes from a deep lying position.
Cleverly had ample opportunity to do what Scholes was doing but he spent more time passing the ball to the CB/WB/scholes than actually getting it to Kags and the rest of the attacking players. Everton where more than comfy with him passing the ball sideways and backwards. They clearly seemed more worried about Scholes
I guess he still just 23 so who knows if he will get there but i have my doubts. Bottomline i think he is at best a squad player and not a regular starter in CM
posted on 21/8/12
omment by ole_20_legend (U14722)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think that Clevs and Scholes are pretty similar in terms of play - recycling the ball and keeping it simple. Scholes obviously has the ability to stretch the opposition with his long passing. I suppose me point is that we don't really need two of that type of player in the team and I was hoping that one of them would be withdrawn for Ando sooner than they were.
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Sorry but Cleverly does not have Scholes vision, composure, intelligence and passing range. It was painfully obvious yesterday. Pretty much all our attacks were being orchestrated by Scholes from a deep lying position.
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All I said was that they are similar in terms of how they play. I didn't say that Clevs was anywhere near as good as Scholes and I even mentioned that the latter has better long range passing.
Scholes at 23 wasn't as good as Scholes at 30, so we just have to give Clevs some time to develop. I think that he will be a useful player for us, however he needs time to find his role in the team and settle in.
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