Hey Mickmoon

Buying the Stadium is not a far fetched idea if as it appears the council want rid. Who else are they going to sell it to? Therefore the club could be in the driving seat. Paying a mortgage on the ground will cost a lot less than 1 million per year and also give the Rovers the ability to sell the naming rights and, through proper management ( that they would need to employ) make a profit from all that could be done at the ground.

Oh dear ho dear we have our knickers in a twist!

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1. Read this and then re-read my comments I hope you can then see the full picture before going off half-cocked.

2. My inference is that I don’t believe that JR will acquire the Keepmoat but if he did!!!

3. The original article was a meeting between VC and JR I had no involvement at all and apart from JR I know none of them. No mates there then!


4. The reason I did the article was to let everyone know the current thinking of JR and the board. The supporters have a right to know.

I think every contributor to the article seems to have grasped the correct content with the exception of yourself and for that I have no answer.

im sorry bally couldnt disagree more,what bank in todays climate would give drfc a mortgage?besides all the difficulties it would cause eg.if we should get relegated,start selling our assets,which will happen as usual,im sorry but its a non starter as far as economics are concerned

alex, you have done what you set out to do and thats to let us know what jr wants us to believe,so we thankyou for that.OUR job is to support our club not to try and solve its problems and finances thats left to better folk than us,all we want from them is no bull s..t get on with their job and make the rovers the best team they can be

I am not surprised that you appear to have grasped the wrong end of the stick again this time when it comes to me and my motives.
JR and me disagreed on a moral issue some time ago and as a result if we did exchange Christmas cards we no longer would.
To suggest that my objective was to subversively get supporters like yourself to believe what JR thinks, is way off line.
All supporters have views and opinions and they have more chance of being right if they try to understand the other side of the debate.
I think you make an over simplification “our job is to support our club and not try and solve its problems and finances that’s left to better folk than us”
Your living in cloud cuckoo land supporters have views and advice for everything to do with the club. Spend just ten minutes at the next game just listening to the conversations and note the topics covered.
You got it wrong about my article and you got it wrong about my motives , I welcome your criticism but I can't support your view point you put forward.

If you want to talk finance Mick, how about this. If the average price for a season ticket is 250 then to cover the rent we have to sell 4,000 season tickets. That only covers the rent, no wages etc.

Now, if we were able to have the rights to sublet the Stadium,( ie Pop concerts etc) and to run and take the profit from the bars and restaurants, then it would not be a bad deal. As it is the Rovers are able to make NO income from the Stadium despite the large rent.

If we were to be asked to pay the cost of building the Stadium, and, if the economy was good, it would be a bad proposition. However, the council are prepared to sell at a very low price ( compared with what it cost to build), just to get it off their hands. Now is the perfect time for the club ( directors, or new investors) to aquire the ground and surrounding land.

its people like you who i have contemt for, for the simple reason, its not about football to you its about i know best ive listened to people like you for the last 50yrs in the ground or on the long journey to some obscure ground 200mles away so dont try and preach to the converted.as for living in cuckoo land do you think for one second that jr gives a damn about what the average fan thinks then im sorry my friend its you who lives in cuckoo land

Sorry Mick, could you please say whether you are answering Alex or me, or is your reply meant for both opf us.

OK Lets make it simple....

"do you think JR gives a damn about what the average fan thinks"

I have been critical of JR in the past and taken issue with him personally but you are wrong when you make the comments above. No one can doubt that he is a very successful sales man, knows how to communicate and gets feed back on what supporters feel. If you read the original article you will see that he is talking to supporters who have canvassed other supporters and discussed improvements. As a result the club can respond to criticism. If that’s not a sign of a Chairman who cares for the average supporters views I don't know what is.
He strikes me as a Chairman who does care and puts his money were his mouth is.

Does anyone agree with MM's comments on JR?

Where have I ever said “I know best” that is your perception of what I have written and again I think you are wrong. I always try to look at the oppositions views and adjust my opinion accordingly. I have tried to do that with your comments but I am sorry to say I can not see any sense in them. You fail to give facts to support your comments you have made. In my argument I have tried to support my views with facts which are verifiable.

First of all Mick.- Bally is not Bally, he is Yankee. I am Bally. Nobody else just me.

Secondly - Steady there because although I agree with you about feeding family and buying clothes which has always been my argument, there are those on this site who wear silly glasses and you might find them attacking your every comment as they did me.

Thirdly - I think Alex was just reporting on something that we would never have heard anything about, I do not agree with all he or anyone says but go steady mate, you and I are right - we do not count and that is a fact, but we the fans all support our team and lets not fall out.

Good Night. God Bless because tomorrow I have to go to a funeral of a very close friend, Football is way down the line of concern. But there are those who disagree - You. I know are not one of them

Couldn't have put it more eloquently myself, Bally, although I am more in Ryan's camp on this one.

Does JR give a monkey's about the ordinary fans? I think he has to do. They are the punters and, anyone in business will tell you that if you stop looking after customers, you end up without any.

On season tickets, on the past two lots of ST sales figures, work is needed although I'm going to qualify that.

On the face of it, 5000 in ST sales isn't enough for the club. Consider Brighton who have sold 17000 STs. at a minimum of £395 each.

Rovers won't and can't come close to that. But what would be interesting is how many seats are filled each game and what's the average price paid. This will show if the club are getting the multi-game packages right.

The thing about ticket prices is that you can't really help those fans who genuinely have difficulty clothing the kids and putting dinner on the table, apart from the odd promotional game where prices are dropped. Football is now a luxury product in Britain. Plenty of fans, sadly can't afford it. I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong. It's simply true.

On buying the ground. It could happen. From what I've heard, the council /SMC have made a pig's ear of the running of the KM. It runs at a loss, so they may consider off-loading it. I can't think of anyone else who would want it and who have the money to buy it.

If our directors want the KM, and are given the chance to buy it, affording the price-tag shouldn't be a problem. It will depend on other strings attached to the deal.

mickmoon is silly & sad person!

Anyone know how the Keepmoat naming rights deal is for?

You'd think if we are paying £1m rent a year we may as well try and buy it on a morgage and instead pay off some of the morgage each year, atleast then the money is going towards an asset rather than being wasted on rent.

I believe the Keepmoat deal was for 5 years and may be up at the New year

Wow have we really been there nearly 5 years. Feels like just yesterday we moved in!

Would need to have the stadium purchased before christmas for it to be worth it then.