So you're saying that pro footballers who train 4-5 days a week, 10 months of the year, aren't as fit as Murray?
SERIOUSLY??
Tennis and Football are very different sports physically, one is lots of short movement, one involves sprints over distance. One is short games with rests after every 2, the other is two periods of 45mins.
This thread is another example of people getting a bit carried away with Murrays win. He has won a major, and all credit to him, I am chuffed. But lets not suddenly elevate him to god-like status, please.
Tennis dont have to deal with impact injuries, between tournaments dont tennis players get a decent rest?
Football and Tennis require equal fitness and stamina, but both exert different physical difficulties.
I've never played Tennis, but i would imagine the stamina required are for short bursts and the leg strength required would be slightly down from a footballers.
I would imagine that the excess amount of strain on the knee joints and leg muscles would be outweighed in Football rather then Tennis, where the pre-dominate factor would be upper body strength.
This is probably why you need greater recovery time for football compared to Tennis.
Congratz Muzzah. About fecking time.
This thread is another example of people getting a bit carried away with Murrays win. He has won a major, and all credit to him, I am chuffed. But lets not suddenly elevate him to god-like status, please.
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i think thats a bit unfair to murrary, he has been there or there abouts for the last few years and deserved his victory last night.
having played both games, i'd find it much easier to play football for 90 mins than tennis for 5 hours.
geniusgreaves,
Footballers to a man are wimps, to not be able to play two 45 minute halfs with a 15 minute break without whinging about tiredness is criminal. They have everything going for them, and they still pull out of amtches at the slightest twinge of a muscle. Footballers have to be the weakest of any sportsmen around.
newWAYNEorder
Why would Murray be elevated to god like status, that only happens to footballers like Rooney.
Tennis requires alot of energy just like football. But in tennis, you're facing opponents who have played as much as you have in the tournament, so fitness levels are similar.
In football, some teams have rest for a week, others for 2/3 days, at top level that can be a big difference, but this is when mentality plays a big factor.
But lets not suddenly elevate him to god-like status, please.
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Certainly not a great achievement than THAT goal.
Even though, Murray has played 6 matches in 12 days, shouldn't we consider the quality of opposition when you start comparing him to any footballer.
If you'd played both to any sort of standard you would know how ridiculous a comparison this is.
I agree it takes a lot of fitness but ask a tennis player yo run around a pitch for five hours a game with six games in twelve days and he'll faint at the thought of it.
what didi said.
in tennis you are constantly on the move, stretching for shots all the time, twisting and pulling in different directions.
the impact on your body is far worse.
Tennis players are cetainly less petulant and sporting. That was a massive achievment by Andy Murray. The mental side of the game is probably more demanding in Tennis. Novak is a real mean hombre and it will have taken a superhuman effort to raise his game from what it was a year back.
i'd find it much easier to play football for 90 mins than tennis for 5 hours.
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I think this is crucial point to be addressed. Football might be only 90 mins, compared to the 5 hours it took Murray, but i think the recovery period in football is much longer then Tennis.
Novak Djokovic played a semi on Sunday and the Final a day later. A footballer at that top level would find the footballing equivalent impossible, due to the strains in the leg.
So i would say playing 90 mins of football 4 times a week is much more difficult then 5 hours of tennis, 4 times a week.
the impact on your body is far worse.
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That's actually the complete opposite of what I'm saying. Football is much more physically demanding than tennis.
Tennis is stop/start, stop/start. Admittedly a game like last night's would destroy you phsically, but that would be the equivilant of a football match going to extra time.
I think this is crucial point to be addressed. Football might be only 90 mins, compared to the 5 hours it took Murray, but i think the recovery period in football is much longer then Tennis.
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i disagree mate, when i was younger i'd sometimes play 5-aside on a friday evening, play for my saturdays reservews at 12, first team at 3 ( if both were playing at home) and sunday morning football the following day.
i was fooked, but it didnt kill me.
i could play tennis for 3 hours and it would feel like my back was nearly briken at times.
i suppose it depends what your body can take, everyones is different.
That's actually the complete opposite of what I'm saying. Football is much more physically demanding than tennis.
Tennis is stop/start, stop/start. Admittedly a game like last night's would destroy you phsically, but that would be the equivilant of a football match going to extra time
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but the difference is, in football you have 10 other players out there too take the burden away.
if your playing at cb for example, and your team is pushing forward, you have little to do.
if your up front, and your team isnt getting the ball, you have little to do.
you patrol your own areas in football.
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duncanedwards_legend
if your playing at cb for example, and your team is pushing forward, you have little to do.
Exactly, sometimes defenders and goalies can be standing about waiting for some action for up to 10 minutes at a time.
i'd find it much easier to play football for 90 mins than tennis for 5 hours.
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This is an unfair comparison though. Tennis matches rarely last anywhere longer than 2 hours (3 in the majors). I know I would much rather play tennis for 3 hours, than play footy for 90 minutes.
I also know that (when I was fit) I could play tennis for 2-3 hours a day every day, but playing 90 minutes twice in a row would kill me.
Man United even pulled out of the FA Cup to play in the Super Cup, because it would have been too much hard work for the players!
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It would be best to know what you are talking about before posting a ridiculous comment like the one above.
We were playign the Supercup in South America the same time the FA cup 3rd round was being played and we asked the FA to give us a bye or an alternative date because we couldn't be in two places at once. They refused and we didn't compete in the FA cup.
Let's not let the truth stand in the way of bitterness.
Football and Tennis are very different sports, with very different requirements. You need stamina to play both but there are things that happen to you in a football pitch that will never happen on a tennis court and vice versa. You also do not get to rest after every couple of service games, you do not get tackled or jostled for every ball etc.
I've played both and agree to an extent that footballers are pansies as I've played 2 games in one day, obviously not at the same level but on a decent sized pitch for 90mins.
I've also played in tennis tournaments where I've played 2-3 games a day and wasn't as knackered.
From my own personal experience, football takes a lot more out of me than tennis.
Sandy, are you suggesting football players are softer than Cricket players who play for five days?
From my own personal experience, football takes a lot more out of me than tennis.
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i agree if your saying stamina wise, but for me, impact on your body wise i'd say tennis was more harsh.
Remember football players attend physical training session as well before each game whilst tennis players dont do as intense training. Most of the footballers energy is actual in training as everyone is fighting for a place in the line up.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
I agree with this 100%.
Believe me, playing 3/4 hours of tennis a day is a lot more strenuous on the knees than football is.
Stupid tendinitis
i was fooked, but it didnt kill me.
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Whilst I agree with your point in general, it doesn't really apply hugely. You can play a lot in a short amount of time, but for Murray, he plays 6 games in 12 days and then rests for however long it is between tournaments, meaning he can give his all in that period.
A footballer on the other hand, can not. We play a season without breaks, from August right through to May and often longer due to internationals. It's all well and good playing so much for short tournaments, but you can't do it for 8 months or whatever it is straight.
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posted on 11/9/12
So you're saying that pro footballers who train 4-5 days a week, 10 months of the year, aren't as fit as Murray?
SERIOUSLY??
Tennis and Football are very different sports physically, one is lots of short movement, one involves sprints over distance. One is short games with rests after every 2, the other is two periods of 45mins.
This thread is another example of people getting a bit carried away with Murrays win. He has won a major, and all credit to him, I am chuffed. But lets not suddenly elevate him to god-like status, please.
posted on 11/9/12
Tennis dont have to deal with impact injuries, between tournaments dont tennis players get a decent rest?
posted on 11/9/12
Football and Tennis require equal fitness and stamina, but both exert different physical difficulties.
I've never played Tennis, but i would imagine the stamina required are for short bursts and the leg strength required would be slightly down from a footballers.
I would imagine that the excess amount of strain on the knee joints and leg muscles would be outweighed in Football rather then Tennis, where the pre-dominate factor would be upper body strength.
This is probably why you need greater recovery time for football compared to Tennis.
Congratz Muzzah. About fecking time.
posted on 11/9/12
This thread is another example of people getting a bit carried away with Murrays win. He has won a major, and all credit to him, I am chuffed. But lets not suddenly elevate him to god-like status, please.
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i think thats a bit unfair to murrary, he has been there or there abouts for the last few years and deserved his victory last night.
having played both games, i'd find it much easier to play football for 90 mins than tennis for 5 hours.
posted on 11/9/12
geniusgreaves,
Footballers to a man are wimps, to not be able to play two 45 minute halfs with a 15 minute break without whinging about tiredness is criminal. They have everything going for them, and they still pull out of amtches at the slightest twinge of a muscle. Footballers have to be the weakest of any sportsmen around.
newWAYNEorder
Why would Murray be elevated to god like status, that only happens to footballers like Rooney.
posted on 11/9/12
Tennis requires alot of energy just like football. But in tennis, you're facing opponents who have played as much as you have in the tournament, so fitness levels are similar.
In football, some teams have rest for a week, others for 2/3 days, at top level that can be a big difference, but this is when mentality plays a big factor.
posted on 11/9/12
But lets not suddenly elevate him to god-like status, please.
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Certainly not a great achievement than THAT goal.
Even though, Murray has played 6 matches in 12 days, shouldn't we consider the quality of opposition when you start comparing him to any footballer.
posted on 11/9/12
If you'd played both to any sort of standard you would know how ridiculous a comparison this is.
posted on 11/9/12
I agree it takes a lot of fitness but ask a tennis player yo run around a pitch for five hours a game with six games in twelve days and he'll faint at the thought of it.
posted on 11/9/12
what didi said.
in tennis you are constantly on the move, stretching for shots all the time, twisting and pulling in different directions.
the impact on your body is far worse.
posted on 11/9/12
Tennis players are cetainly less petulant and sporting. That was a massive achievment by Andy Murray. The mental side of the game is probably more demanding in Tennis. Novak is a real mean hombre and it will have taken a superhuman effort to raise his game from what it was a year back.
posted on 11/9/12
i'd find it much easier to play football for 90 mins than tennis for 5 hours.
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I think this is crucial point to be addressed. Football might be only 90 mins, compared to the 5 hours it took Murray, but i think the recovery period in football is much longer then Tennis.
Novak Djokovic played a semi on Sunday and the Final a day later. A footballer at that top level would find the footballing equivalent impossible, due to the strains in the leg.
So i would say playing 90 mins of football 4 times a week is much more difficult then 5 hours of tennis, 4 times a week.
posted on 11/9/12
the impact on your body is far worse.
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That's actually the complete opposite of what I'm saying. Football is much more physically demanding than tennis.
Tennis is stop/start, stop/start. Admittedly a game like last night's would destroy you phsically, but that would be the equivilant of a football match going to extra time.
posted on 11/9/12
I think this is crucial point to be addressed. Football might be only 90 mins, compared to the 5 hours it took Murray, but i think the recovery period in football is much longer then Tennis.
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i disagree mate, when i was younger i'd sometimes play 5-aside on a friday evening, play for my saturdays reservews at 12, first team at 3 ( if both were playing at home) and sunday morning football the following day.
i was fooked, but it didnt kill me.
i could play tennis for 3 hours and it would feel like my back was nearly briken at times.
i suppose it depends what your body can take, everyones is different.
posted on 11/9/12
That's actually the complete opposite of what I'm saying. Football is much more physically demanding than tennis.
Tennis is stop/start, stop/start. Admittedly a game like last night's would destroy you phsically, but that would be the equivilant of a football match going to extra time
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but the difference is, in football you have 10 other players out there too take the burden away.
if your playing at cb for example, and your team is pushing forward, you have little to do.
if your up front, and your team isnt getting the ball, you have little to do.
you patrol your own areas in football.
posted on 11/9/12
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posted on 11/9/12
duncanedwards_legend
if your playing at cb for example, and your team is pushing forward, you have little to do.
Exactly, sometimes defenders and goalies can be standing about waiting for some action for up to 10 minutes at a time.
posted on 11/9/12
i'd find it much easier to play football for 90 mins than tennis for 5 hours.
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This is an unfair comparison though. Tennis matches rarely last anywhere longer than 2 hours (3 in the majors). I know I would much rather play tennis for 3 hours, than play footy for 90 minutes.
I also know that (when I was fit) I could play tennis for 2-3 hours a day every day, but playing 90 minutes twice in a row would kill me.
posted on 11/9/12
Man United even pulled out of the FA Cup to play in the Super Cup, because it would have been too much hard work for the players!
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It would be best to know what you are talking about before posting a ridiculous comment like the one above.
We were playign the Supercup in South America the same time the FA cup 3rd round was being played and we asked the FA to give us a bye or an alternative date because we couldn't be in two places at once. They refused and we didn't compete in the FA cup.
Let's not let the truth stand in the way of bitterness.
Football and Tennis are very different sports, with very different requirements. You need stamina to play both but there are things that happen to you in a football pitch that will never happen on a tennis court and vice versa. You also do not get to rest after every couple of service games, you do not get tackled or jostled for every ball etc.
I've played both and agree to an extent that footballers are pansies as I've played 2 games in one day, obviously not at the same level but on a decent sized pitch for 90mins.
I've also played in tennis tournaments where I've played 2-3 games a day and wasn't as knackered.
From my own personal experience, football takes a lot more out of me than tennis.
posted on 11/9/12
Sandy, are you suggesting football players are softer than Cricket players who play for five days?
posted on 11/9/12
From my own personal experience, football takes a lot more out of me than tennis.
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i agree if your saying stamina wise, but for me, impact on your body wise i'd say tennis was more harsh.
posted on 11/9/12
Remember football players attend physical training session as well before each game whilst tennis players dont do as intense training. Most of the footballers energy is actual in training as everyone is fighting for a place in the line up.
posted on 11/9/12
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
I agree with this 100%.
posted on 11/9/12
Believe me, playing 3/4 hours of tennis a day is a lot more strenuous on the knees than football is.
Stupid tendinitis
posted on 11/9/12
i was fooked, but it didnt kill me.
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Whilst I agree with your point in general, it doesn't really apply hugely. You can play a lot in a short amount of time, but for Murray, he plays 6 games in 12 days and then rests for however long it is between tournaments, meaning he can give his all in that period.
A footballer on the other hand, can not. We play a season without breaks, from August right through to May and often longer due to internationals. It's all well and good playing so much for short tournaments, but you can't do it for 8 months or whatever it is straight.
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